MXL v67m & v67G

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Hey Guys,

Just ordered my v67 from Mars. ON Sale for 99.00 bucks right now. Sweet deal. I ordered the shockmount from Musician's friend cause it was 20 dollars cheaper and Mars would not get back to me for a price match. 144.59 total with shipping and shockmount from both companies. Not too bad.

Fangar
 
For $999.00 you could =). Yeah I was waiting for them to email me back with a confirmation that they would price match on the shock mount, but they never did (MARS). I knda think they suck since it has been 3 days. Anyway I just decided to check the page again and saw the mic 99 bucks. So I bit. I am hesitant about the sound of a 100 mic, but it has been getting great praise.

Fangar
 
Are 67g & 67m the same?

I want to buy one are 67g & 67m the same?Thanks
 
from the marsmusic.com website:
"A Mars Music exclusive, the V-67M offers world class large diaphragm condenser sound with a distinct vintage body design and sleek black finish. The V-67M is wired exclusively with Mogami cable, the reference standard for the professional audio market."

I was told the "M" stands for Mogami, not Mars. The MXL website really doesn't say a lot about this....who knows....

-daniel
 
Ok... this is all confusing me. I also want to get a V67. The one on mars is 189 bucks and is all gold and shit. Now, the one on mars isn't and it's like 90 bucks cheaper. Which do I buy? Where can I get a shockmount for this particular model...links would be appreciated :)
 
Abbott,

I just bought the Mars Model but have not received it yet. I am sure that it will be great. Both of the mics have the smae specs. I have seen a couple of ads that show all three colors in a row. Anyway the shockmount you need is the MXL57. It fits the v67 and one of the 2000 series. The best price I have found is at Musician's Friend for 29.99 ($5.95 shipping). Mars wanted 49.95 though they said they would match MF price after a 5 day email war. Stand by for a link:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7...9229127698/search/g=home/detail/base_id/54844

Big ol link, but there it is.

For 99 bucks can you really go wrong?

The other thing that I wanted to mention was that up until this week Mars was selling that mic for 129.00. I have seen retailers on the net claiming to be blowing them out at 200-250 bucks. SO I think that it is all relative. I am not sure why Mars is so much cheaper on that Mic. But One of us in this BBS has the v67m and says it rocks. (I think it was Crawdad).

Fangar
 
From what I have heard, they are the exact same mic, except for the whole cable thing. The "M" does stand for Mogami. The inscription on the bottom says: "V67 Mogami" - not v67M. Very interesting indeed, which got me thinking.

Being a marketing person, this is my spin on this whole G vs. M deal. Marshall Electronics is the distributor for Mogami cables. Up untill now, their core business has been that and surveilance equipment, of all things. From a marketing standpoint, I'm sure you can guess the challenges they face trying to carve a niche as a MICROPHONE company.

Now aside from the whole surveilance equip. thing, think of all the the less-educated people out there in the consumer market that associate them automatically with the other marshall (guitar amps). To make matters worse, you have a mic with the name "Mogami" jumping right out at you on the front of it, clear as day. "Mogami? Aren't those the guys who make the cables?" The Mogami thing, in my opinion, kind of cheapens the look of the mic. Almost like you bought a bunch of cables and got a cool mic with it. :)

To make matters worse yet, People are confused at the differences between the various models - HENCE THE SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD which only further complicates things for them in their quest to establish their brand identity.

Meanwhile, the Marshall name is starting to pick up momentum in the budget and semi-pro market for large-diaphragm condensers. The word is out, and the V67 is generating quite a buzz. And as with the Studio Projects C1, it has all taken them quite by surprize. Their 2001P was supposed to be their darling, but the reviews kinda' sucked, for lack of a better word. (And another interesting Studio Projects parallel, the 2001P was also essetially the same mic as the Joemeek 47, which SP was originally hoping to be THEIR darling) . The 2003 was supposed to succeed that, but the public became surprizingly enamored of the V67's transformer-ized sound and unusual looks.

Now is not the time to dampen the buzz with a product that is poorly marketed.

So Marshall figures it's time for a blowout on the "black sheep model." And my guess is it should help them out twofold: By ridding themselves of the association with "cables" and establishing, once and for all, the name and identity of the mic. The V67Gs will remain, I'm sure, as it carries a more distinctive look you're not soon to forget, and doesn't have the Mogami name stamped all over it like a cheap billboard.

The marketing department's blunder is the consumers' gain in this instance. Think of it as an early Christmas present.
 
As an acoustics student and proud owner of the V67G as well as the V67M I decided to do a few tests in our university's anechoic chamber, utilizing a reference mic capsule, Bruel & Kjaer 4134, totally linear from 20 to 10kHz, with a rise of 2,5 dB around 15 kHz. The B&K's specs are correct +/-0,1 dB and measured on the very mic I used.

Don't take this as anything near the _truth_, as it's my first attempt in the science of acoustics and measuring. But it's nice to see that two specimens, bought appr. a year apart (~#1900 and ~#600, respectively) are pretty much alike, no?

V67G - red graph
V67M - blue graph

Regards,
/Henrik
 

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Fangar,

Thanks for the post on the shockmount. I followed suit. I was trying to decide between the SP C1 and the MXL V67M. I was leaning toward the SP C1, but when I saw the MXL V67 was reduced to $99, I went for it. I also got the MXL 57 shockmount from musiciansfriend and a SM57. So for roughly the same price as the SP C1, I got:

MXL V67
SM57 with free stand and cable
MXL 57 shockmount

I hope I will be happy, but from what I'm hearing about the MXL V67, it seemed like a no brainer. And its nice to have my first SM57 as well.

YZL
 
Henrik,

Very nice. Thank you for the curves. Those curves look pretty much like what the mic sounds like. Of course, people should realize that the curve will ckage when they're up close to the mic, and the off axis response will be different as well, but that curve is a great starting point. What does the B&K do after 10kHz? The B&K's 2.5dB bump at 15kHz shows up nicely on the plot.
 
Valdemar,

Thanks a million for taking the time to do that. I would say that pretty much alike is right. That is great. Very nice job.

YesZep,

Glad to see that helped. Can't beat the 144 and change for the mic and shockmount. I could have saved another 5.95 on the shipping from Mus. Frnd, but Mars took forever to tell me that they would match the price for the mount (29.99 instead of 49.99) and then I would still have to pay the full price only to receive a credit later. No thanks. Mine should be here Monday. =).

P.S. Harvey Gerst is the man. I read your Google posts all of the time. (Small world).

Fangar
 
Just an FYI.....

Got an e-mail response from Mars about their non-returnable policy on Mics. If there is a defect with a Mic, you can return it for a refund.

That's makes me feel better!

YZL
 
Those guys are clueless. So they would rather have you break it if you don't like it to get a refund as opposed to saying that it just sucks and would like to return it. =) Hmmmmmmm. No worries anyway.

Fangar
 
Mar's return policy, or non-return policy shall we say, on mics, has to do with hygiene. Frankly, I wouldn't want a mic that some unkept, unshaven, green theethed, heavy-metal, screamin' meme, vocalist has had half way into his mouth.
Would you?
 
I agree, but it seems that the MARS salesperson should have made it clear that if a mic is DOA, an exchange would be given. This would avoid said "unkept, unshaven, green theethed, heavy-metal, screamin' meme, vocalist ", fiddling with the mic until it breaks and returning it for a refund under the guise that it never worked. I have a feeling that if you returned a mic that was DOA there would be alot of whinning going on (on MARS behalf) before anything close to a refund was given. I heard what the gentlman said about the refund, but I have a feeling that each MARS employee would answer that question differently depending on their level of attention to the actual question.

Fangar
 
Ya know, I'm not trying to defend Mars or anything, but I gotta think that if you were a realitively frequent customer, and you returned a mic within a day or 2 of purchase because it was DOA, they'd give you a refund or, more likely, a replacement. If they didn't, I'd raise so much holy hell, they'd do just about anything to get me out of the store. Find out where their corporate offices are, find out who the CEO is, tell them that you're going to call him up at 3 o'clock in the morning because Joe Blow at store # 245 wouldn't make good on a piece of faulty equipment! You'll get that refund!

There's only one or two salesman at my local Mars that I'll deal with for equipment. If they don't know the answer to something, they'll tell you flat out, I don't know. All the others don't know diddly-squat!
I tried to get one guy there to show me something on a Yamaha O1V mixer before. When he found out I already owned the mixer, and he wasn't going to make a sale, he left me standing there.
 
Got my V67 at Mars this weekend...

...fifteen hundred miles from my house. I've done a bit of superstore bashing on this site so I figure I should also relate a positive experience.
The local Mars (Boston area) store was so disinterested in making a deal on a V67 w/shockmount a few weeks ago that I waited. Lucky me, it dropped to the current $99 price.
I was in Houston on Sat. and picked up the mic for $99 and the shockmount for $30 (the Musician's Friend price as I had a printout from their website with me). No problem. I asked them if I could try it out as I was a long way from home and didn't want to risk a DOA. Again, no problem. They even took a personal check and apologized that I couldn't make a deal at home.
I'll be trying it out this week:D

FYI - I'm such a newbie at this mic stuff,
I didn't realize that the mic came with its own clip, so I could have put it on a stand and used it without the shockmount.
 
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