Mp3 Encoding Homework!!!

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Okay, it totally kicks ass to be able to encode to MP3 directly from CEP 2.0, but the converter sucks. I don't know what encoder is used, but I can tell a difference b/w it and the LAME encoder that I prefer.

So here's the question. With other music converters, you can select (or substitute) a converter (like LAME). Anybody know how to do this with CEP2.0?

I will be both shocked and impressed if I get an answer to this that pleases me. :D :D :D
 
dobro said:
Can't you run it just like you would any other plugin?
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This does not please me. This is not an answer at all, LOL...it's a question! The nerve!!!

Hopefully by now you understand that I just have a bizarre sense of humor, right?

Actually, if you can run an encoder as a plugin, that'd be great. But I think we're talking apples and oranges. By way of example, if I use a program such as AudioGrabber, I can SELECT the encoder that the program uses, and I select it by downloading LAME from the net (gratis, I might add). Now, if you're asking if I can install an external encoding program such as Audiograbber (that uses the LAME encoder), then that might be worth looking into...but it kinda' defeats the purpose of what I'm trying to do. I like the convenience of being able to "SAVE AS" an mp3 file directly from CEP; it automatically defaults to the correct folder, I've already got the file named, and it's about 5X faster at the actual encoding than an external encoding program is. It's just the results that suck.

Thanks for the response, dobro...but I'm not sure I'm communicating my question properly. Or, I'm too dim to understand your answer. :D :D

Either way though, I AM NO PLEASED! :D :D :D
 
Chris . . . I'm curious . . . what is it about the CE encoding that you
unhappy with? I also like this ability, and have been using it recently. I am not hearing any obvious problems like I did with say EZ CD creators encoding . . . which introduced some strange artifacts into the file that were fairly noticeable. What encoder do you prefer?

Cheers~ Peter
 
welldonep said:
What encoder do you prefer?

Cheers~ Peter
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Hey Peter: Yeah, CEP's encoder is definitely better than a lot of them, but I'm getting the same weirdness that you're talking about, albeit not so bad. It's most noticeable in the high end on things like cymbals and "S's". It gives that swirly effect that just seems to stand out more on my monitors that I like.

I'm a big fan of "Lame's" encoder. Yes, it's a LAME ENCODER, lol, but I haven't found one I like better.

In fact, if you're interested, there's a really cool program called "dbpoweramp" that uses the Lame Encoder.

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/

Second download on that page. The thing I love about it is that it integrates itself into windows, so all you have to do is right click on a wav file, and it gives you the option of converting it immediately. I use VBR (variable bit rate) with a range between 160 and 320, and that program supports VBR, so you get the least amount of compression when the music requires it, but your files aren't GARGANTUAN huge either.

If I figure out how to use the encoder with CEP, I'll be sure to drop a line here.
 
dBpowerAMP . . . I use that also, or sometimes I use the MMJB's built-in encoder. Some may scoff at MMJB, but I have no problems with it . . . it's pretty fast too. I'm suprised I didn't notice the 'artifacts' you mentioned in the mp3's encoded with CE Pro. Yes, this is the same exact sound I am referring to . . . with cybal splashes, etc. I used to think all enoders were practically the same until I purchased an iPod and encoded about 6 gigs of my music, only to be very disatisfied with the quality. I then learned about the LAME encoders. I'm glad you posted this, as I hadn't noticed it yet, but since I only used CE to encode music that I was creating with CE, and my music being mostly acoustic-based w/o drums, I hadn't noticed it. This forum continues to be of great help to me.

Cheers~ Peter
 
"but I'm getting the same weirdness that you're talking about, albeit not so bad. It's most noticeable in the high end on things like cymbals and "S's". It gives that swirly effect that just seems to stand out more on my monitors that I like."

...and there's none of that stuff in the mix before you convert to mp3? Gee, I've never heard of anyone complaining of CE's mp3 encoder having that effect before. Just you luck to be the first. :D

I'll check at Syntrillium.
 
dobro said:


...and there's none of that stuff in the mix before you convert to mp3? Gee, I've never heard of anyone complaining of CE's mp3 encoder having that effect before. Just you luck to be the first. :D
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really? well, by coincidence, here's one on the front page of the mp3 clinic right now. https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74323

And by the way, you'll NEVER hear a problem with the encoder in CEP, because it's using the same thing to decode it as it used to encode it, so it'll sound as good as the .wav file. But when I A/B a 128 mp3 done in CEP with one converted with LAME, yeah...I can hear a difference...and you can too. I don't know anything about how encoding works, really...I just know that freakin' sound that I hate...LOL.

Thanks for offering to check with Synt...

-chris
 
Sure Chris, drag me into a fight with Dobro. I'm only covering one of his tunes for the "cover my member" challenge.

anywho, I noticed that in CEP there are choices for using settings that involve VBR.... whatever the choice is other than the Fraunhoffer or whatever it's called. I"m going to give those a shot in CEP and compare those to the LAME version using the same settings.
 
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