more bass than beta 52?

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Is there another bass drum mic with more bass than the beta 52? The beta 52 has awesome bass if you mic the bass drum real close, but i prefer the tone of moving the mic back a bit, but then i lose the bass. Is there a way around this? I need a mic that is sensitive to pick up all the resonance and room sound caused by the drum, but can withstand the high spl, and have enough bass to give me the biggest bass drum sound in the world. Any idea of where to start?

P.S. My bass drum is 28", thought that might be important.
 
Try building a bass drum tunnel so that you can isolate the bass drum from the rest of the kit. That allows you move the mic back, which is actually where you can get a lot of bass energy. Also experiment with tuning, as well, that might help you too. If none of this works, you can give me your Beta 52!! :D :D
 
The beta 52 is for close micing. Most people use an LDC on the kick if it is going to be farther away. The tunnel idea works as well but not with a B52.
 
I found that micing the kick really close is BBBAAAADDDD!!!! Or maybe I have a bad mic. I use a Beta 52 on my kick. I have the back head off of the drum and I would put the mic all the way inside just a few inches away from the head on the inside...just in front of the beaters...I always wondered why the kick sounded so dead...fluttery almost....like the head was just too loose....Then oneday on here...i read that bass waves take more room to develop than higher frequency waves...so I backed the mic up...only to maybe 1/3 of the way into the drum...then drap a heavy blanket over the back of the drum for a lil more isolation....It has made a world of differance...all of a sudden, I liked my beta 52 again...:)
 
Farview said:
The beta 52 is for close micing. Most people use an LDC on the kick if it is going to be farther away. The tunnel idea works as well but not with a B52.
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so a tunnel + an ldc would be optimal for my situation?
 
Farview said:
The beta 52 is for close micing. Most people use an LDC on the kick if it is going to be farther away. The tunnel idea works as well but not with a B52.
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Thanks for the clarification, I don't have a "real" kick mic, I always used a 57 or a cheap, cheap Radio Shack mic (which actually doesn't do too bad at all). :)
 
That might be the way to go. I've never had a problem with the b52 sticking just in the hole of the front head. When people start putting distance between the drum and the mic, they are using an ldc. (You hear about people using a U87 for this sort of thing)
 
the beta 52 is sensitive. Make sure ur kick is tuned well. ALSO, put a front head on, with a 4-6" hole off-center. Stick the mic in the hole so only the grill is inside the drum. cut a some mids, and you will be set!
 
Have you thought of using some kind of speaker as a microphone? 8" driver or something combined with the microphone? Usually these things give ungodly amounts of bass, but you might be able to blend it to taste with your Beta 52.


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snow lizard said:
Have you thought of using some kind of speaker as a microphone? 8" driver or something combined with the microphone? Usually these things give ungodly amounts of bass, but you might be able to blend it to taste with your Beta 52.


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hmmm.... i just might try that - i just plug the speaker into the mic input right? i dont want anything to blow up on me.
 
To answer the original question, I think the Audix D6 is bassier than the Beta 52. It's great on kicks. I love it.
 
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