Mics I'm Totally Spoilt For Choice.

[DJL]

Maybe "you" need to have a Strat to make a guitar sound like a Strat in the studio. That is fine with me, but, if a player comes in with something other than a strat, what are you going to tell him when he wants you to create a Strat sound...Ummm, would you please go out and buy Jimi Hendrix's guitar and amp so I can make you sound like him?

I am a player DJL, and I know how to get multiple sounds out of my rig! Its called tone shaping. If I need more emulation, there are all kinds of emulators out there that do not need a specific brand to emulate another...

So yes, we disagree...

Emulater... wtf, come on, you've got to be joking, emulaters have come a long ways over the years... but emulaters suck eggs when compared with the real instruments. If you want a strat sound... use a strat. If you want a Les Paul sound... use a Les Paul. If you want the Mayes sound... get a Mayes guitar... Taylor, Martain, Gibson, etc... and the same goes for electronics, Marsahll, Fender, Booige, and etc, etc... use the real thing... not a fricken little toy. Pods are fun... but come on dude, its nothing like playing great crafted instruments... the real instruments even seem to make you play better because it's more fun playing nice instruments.

Tell you what Alan, just to be fair... post your emulated clip of the Mayes/C4 sound clip... and let the people here be the judge if you can copy everything like you say you can with your pod or not.

Emulater... lol.

 

[alanhyatt]

Tell you what Alan, just to be fair... post your emulated clip of the Mayes/C4 sound clip... and let the people here be the judge if you can copy everything like you say you can with your pod or not.

Emulater... lol.

Tell you what hot shot, the day you post anything that has any quality, then I will be happy to do that. Just as soon as you put something up and prove it was yours, I will do an A/B of a real Strat and an Emulation of one....

Then when I do, and you can't tell which one is the real thing, you give us all your real name and address.... Agreed?

 

[Han]

Sorry Han, you are wrong, and I admit that "you can" get most any sound of any guitar with a Pod, and EQ. Maybe you need some more lessons...

I tell you what, fly me in and I will show you how its done....

Sorry Alan, but I think it's you who need more lessons. Tell you what, most professional engineers simply dislike (hate) Pod's. I have recorded lots of that crap, Line 6 amps that cost 4k and sound as flat as a dime.

I'm happy to have a Strat, a 1961 SG, a couple of other Gibsons, Fender and Marshall tube amps, a real big Hammond with Leslie 122, an original Rhodes MK1, a beautiful Grand Piano and a whole lot of other instruments and gear/amps. My oldest instrument is from 1904.

If you compare the real thing to the emulation, you'll be amazed.
A Stratocaster, amped by a twin reverb, with a nice clean sound is another world compared to the Pod, period.

Sorry bro, no emulation in my place. (remember the Antares mic modeler?)

 

[noisedude]

Wow Ausrock that's a nice collection right there. Although I'm guessing you're more of a Gibson fan than a Fender man

I'd love to here some comparisons for a bit of fun. My guess is it would be more fun if you didn't put them in this thread though!!

 

[John Mayes]

Hey Ausrock. What is the double necked acoustic? Is that an Omega? Can't see the headstock too well but it kind looks like it, although the dyed finish is a little different than I would see Kevin Normally do. and the comparison would be cool, but the one thing bad about your stuff is your gonna have a hard time finding a les paul :~P

 

[DJL]

Tell you what hot shot, the day you post anything that has any quality, then I will be happy to do that. Just as soon as you put something up and prove it was yours, I will do an A/B of a real Strat and an Emulation of one....

Then when I do, and you can't tell which one is the real thing, you give us all your real name and address.... Agreed?

Alan Hyatt.. either post your emulated clip of the Mayes/C4 sound clip to prove you can copy with your emulater like you say you can or be known as a frickin liar. The ball is in your park big mouth, and what you do with it is up to you.

PS... some people have no appreciation for fine crafted instruments... no wonder you love cheap Chinese budget mics so much.

Emulater... lol.

Don

 

[ausrock]

My son is the Les Paul freak........although all the back row of guitars are for sale.

John,

The d'ble neck is a Jim William's (an Aussie luthier) creation.


Gee DJ, are you still trying to weasel out of posting some of your work by getting all defensive again.

 

[DJL]

My son is the Les Paul freak........although all the back row of guitars are for sale.

John,

The d'ble neck is a Jim William's (an Aussie luthier) creation.


Gee DJ, are you still trying to weasel out of posting some of your work by getting all defensive again.

Nope, that would be Alan Hyatt doing the weaseling... and he doesn't need your help... he's a pro... lol. PS, nice guitar collection.

 

[crazydoc]

Tell you what Alan, just to be fair... post your emulated clip of the Mayes/C4 sound clip... and let the people here be the judge if you can copy everything like you say you can with your pod or not.

DJ, sometimes you don't seem to have a brain cell in your head (maybe because they're all in your ass?)

No one here will take anything you say seriously until you show you can walk the walk and not just talk the talk. Put up or shut up.

 

[Han]

Okay, I found the recording on DAT I was talking about. Here's the story, a couple of years ago I was working with a female singer, a friend of me came in and tells her he has written a song which she probably will like and if she does, she may use the song for the CD she's working on.

So they talk half an hour about the song and rehearse a couple of parts of it.
Then she says: I'd like to play and sing it and she walks to the grand and the guy's gonna sit next to her with his Martin.

I say: wait a second and grab a C451 which I put in front of the guitar, a Radio Shack PZM which I hang on the wall next to the Grand and a Neumann which I put up for the vocals.

Listen to a lady who sings a song for the very first time and listen to how a guitar can sound without even taking care about placement. And remember, this is MP3.

 

[alanhyatt]

Han,

You are free to think what you wish to think. No one here is going to arrest you for that.

My 38 years in this industry tells me my experiences are my teacher. What does your MP3 have anything to do with my statement? What I use, how I do it is my knowledge and my tricks of the trade. It is what makes me unique, and why I was hired to do as many sessions as I have done.

What I said, and can't believe I have to say it again is that you do not need a TLA P2 to get the results or same results of the acoustic clip I first posted. I also said you do not need to have Strat to sound like a Strat on a recording.

So why are all of you going off on this. If you guys can't get it done in your studio, then that is fine with me, but I do not have to have a Strat and a Marshall to record a Jimi Hendrix sound as DJL claimed. Can I do it with a Strat and a Marshall...YES, but I don't need one to do it. I can get it done with the use of other gear. If you all can't do it, then you ought to learn how.

With all due respect Han, you may know your craft, but I also know mine...

 

[Han]

Alan, we have a little misunderstanding here, the reason I posted the MP3 was because of my earlier post on page 3 of this thread:

Well, I need a pair of SDC's and I'm really curious about the C4's. And I'd like to have a pair of SDC omni's.

I've made some pretty good recordings from an old Martin guitar which I did with an old C451/CK1. I'm gonna search in the archive and maybe I can post some of it.

As for Alan, I hope he's not angry with me. The guy makes some pretty good mics.

As for our disagreement about the POD thing, my son and I have being seeking guitar sounds the whole afternoon and actually he's still in the studio right now (it's around 9:00 PM here) trying to find the good sounds with his POD XT and his Digitech RP14D.

IMHO there's nothing better than the real thing, a full blown JCM800/ Gibson SG with 4x green backs, or a crystal clear Fender toob amp with a nice strat for clean sounds.

There's much more 'life' in that kind of sounds than any POD or whatever toy on the floor.

I'm afraid you don't agree.

 

[alanhyatt]

Alan, we have a little misunderstanding here, the reason I posted the MP3 was because of my earlier post on page 3 of this thread.

There's much more 'life' in that kind of sounds than any POD or whatever toy on the floor.

I'm afraid you don't agree.

Han, I am not in an argument with you. I understand your opinion...that is fine with me. You do not put your opinions like some other person on this thread, so I have no issue with how you think or comment about it, even if we do disagree. I respect your comments because you have come clean here with who you are, where you are, and what you do. You do not hide behind your screen and make accusations at people. I do respect you and I do like you despite our never meeting. Maybe at the next AES Europe show we can meet. It will be in Barcelona, Spain...

It takes more than just a pod to do certian sounds, So if you just use that, it may or may not do what "you" need it to do. It may take an array of both analog and digital products like an Amp Farm, or a Johnson, or a Behringer, or a mix of pedals, guitars and amps to accomplish what you want.

I have an old piece of gear made by Passac called the EC500. It turns your electric guitar into an acoustic guitar. The results are amazing. They are long out of business, but the unit still works well and fools many people who swear that they are listening to an acoustic rather than an electric.

This is not just about a pod, or fine instruments. Recording is an art if you will, as I am sure you know. You need lots of brushes and lots of paint, as well as the artist to use them properly and be creative with what they have. For example, there are many exact clones of the Mona Lisa. In fact, other Mona Lisa's have been on display without the public ever knowing it. So what does this have to do with Audio...Nothing other than an analogy.

All I am saying is I am able to get the sounds I need from other gear when I have to. I am sorry if you are not getting the same results that I do. This is not about anything else other than my claim about not needing a Strat to get that sound. I am not making more of it than that...

 

[Han]

Alan, I like that analogy, indeed it takes more than paint and brushes to make a work of art, a whole lot more!

I will not be in Barcelona, but I'm looking forward to meet you next time in Amsterdam? perhaps?

Cheers, Han

 

[DJL]

Emulator... lol. I still can't believe you said that crap, much less believe it... lol.

 

[ausrock]

Get with the times DJ....................emulators are taking over the industry

 

[DJL]

So let's see now... the reason why Alan didn't want to answer Vikki's question what were you using? was because he was afraid "sparyfe" might buy John's Mayes PA-3 preamp rather than a pod? Now, that's some frickin funny shit... lol.

Don

 

[DJL]

So mostly, I play guitar in private now, and I don't inflict myself on others, to everybody's relief. I still own 6 instruments (3 electrics, 2 acoustics, and a bass), but I now use them mainly as threats.

It nice to hear your still playing... now that many years of pratice have passed I bet you have the "Foxy Lady" chords nailed. None the less keep playing... it's good for the soul.

 

[DJL]

Han,

You are free to think what you wish to think. No one here is going to arrest you for that.

My 38 years in this industry tells me my experiences are my teacher. What does your MP3 have anything to do with my statement? What I use, how I do it is my knowledge and my tricks of the trade. It is what makes me unique, and why I was hired to do as many sessions as I have done.

What I said, and can't believe I have to say it again is that you do not need a TLA P2 to get the results or same results of the acoustic clip I first posted. I also said you do not need to have Strat to sound like a Strat on a recording.

So why are all of you going off on this. If you guys can't get it done in your studio, then that is fine with me, but I do not have to have a Strat and a Marshall to record a Jimi Hendrix sound as DJL claimed. Can I do it with a Strat and a Marshall...YES, but I don't need one to do it. I can get it done with the use of other gear. If you all can't do it, then you ought to learn how.

With all due respect Han, you may know your craft, but I also know mine...

Prove it... post your emulated clip of the Mayes/C4 sound clip.

 

[noisedude]

less keep playing... it's good for the soul.

You're damn right, my new house had no room for a piano so for 12 MONTHS I've been deprived of my chief creative output ... hence why I've not once put up any mp3s here ... because writing music on guitar just isn't for me!