Micing a 3 - peice drumset

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Ok guys,

I'm very new at this and very eager to learn.


I'm starting from scratch here..

I'm already getting SM-57 to mic my guitar amp, and maybe try it out with vocals and see how i like it.

The bass probably will hook directly into the mixer via DI box

now for the drums


I have a 3 - peice drumset low budget set that isnt that bad..

check it out in the gear section of my band's website

http://listen.to/msg_vt


dont laugh.. it sounds better than it looks.

Now before I buy any mics , I need some help from you guys.

How many mics should I get.

Obviously the kick and snare will need one right?

Maybe I will mic the floor tom too.

What should I do about the cymbals?

Which mics should I use for each?

Do you suggest any drum mic kits?


thanks

- dave
 
Shure Beta 52 on the kick
Shure SM57 x 2 on the snare and hi hat
You can also get a couple more SM57's for the overheads
 
I might be a bit leery of using dynamics for overheads. If it works do it, but I would use small diaphragm condensers. I have heard a lot of nice things about behringer ecm-8000's, but I have not used them myself. Supposedly great bang for the buck. btw, you would need phantom power to run condenser microphones.

Matty
 
musikman316 said:
Shure Beta 52 on the kick
Shure SM57 x 2 on the snare and hi hat
You can also get a couple more SM57's for the overheads
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That might be a good setup if you like washy-soudning cymbals and hi-hat.

Get a couple of Marshall mxl 603's and use them as overheads, an Audio Technica Pro 25 for the kick, and a '57 for the snare. Since your kit is so small, you might not even need to mic the snare separately (just maybe bring one of the overheads in closer to the snare).
 
Hmmmm....college boys, huh?

yeah, well... it's i before e except after c.
That's ok, I always misspell "their." And sometimes "misspell."

Couple of 57s, an AT Pro 25 on kick, maybe the ecm8000s for overheads when recording. That'll do you up pretty good for real cheap.
 
Remeber , I only have a 3 peice..

Is it necessary to mic the floor tom directly? or can I get by with the overheads?
 
i've always gotten by 2 overheads a snare and a kick mic. A mic on the floor tom will give you more flexibility but if your recording for demo's or nothing extremely important i wouldn't really spend the money on it yet.
 
can I get by with one overhead? or 2 is ideal?

* budget.. hhaha
 
2 is defiefiantly ideal. Someone a while ago on another thread said he went out and bought 11 Samson R21s or R-11's something like that 20 bucks each is what he paid. He uses those on drums they might be worth looking into. on the set that you have it looks like you would need 3-4 mics and a bass mic total.
 
If you want budget overheads, definitely get the Behringer ECM8000s. $35 each. Get 'em before stock runs out--they've been discontinued. I have both a pair of these and a pair of the Marshall MXL603s, and while I prefer the 603s, the ECM8000s do a great job at 1/2 the price. Get two if you can afford it, otherwise just get one to experiment and get a second one later when you want to have a more interesting drum sound (i.e., a stereo one).

BTW, I've seen plenty of bands that use 3-piece kits around my neck of the woods.
 
they've been discontinued!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??!?!?!?!?!?! now i gotta go get some. damn right when im out of money...



MSG - Where in VA do you live?
 
You can get a very good drum sound with 3 mics. Since you want to do this cheap, and have a small kit, I'd start first with 3 mics. You can always add more later.

You already have a 57 coming - great. The 57 is one of THE snare mics. So you have the snare covered.

For the kick, the ATM pro 25 was already mentioned. I never tried it, but it gets great reviews here and is cheap.

For the overhead, definitely get a condensor mic. They pick up the highs of cymbals much better than a dynamic mic like a 57. Two good, cheap ones have already been mentioned: the MXL 603 and the ECM8000. Keep in mind that the 603 is far more directional, and will therefore be better if your drum room is not so great. The ECM8000 is omni-directional and will accurately pick up everything in the room, even crappy reflections. I prefer the 603 for this reason (my room sucks).
 
Whoopy,

Where did you find out that the ECM's were discontinued..................they are still a current item on Behringer's site.





:cool:
 
if you have only 1 mic as an overhead i would think an omni-directional would be better because a very directional mic wouldn't pick up all of your cymbals as well. If you have a crappy room with alot of reflections try picking up all of the blankets and rugs that you can around the house, and cover up the walls and floors.
 
ausrock said:
Whoopy,

Where did you find out that the ECM's were discontinued..................they are still a current item on Behringer's site.





:cool:
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Yeah? That's good news. I just heard a bunch of people here say they were being discontinued. I hope they were wrong.
 
Hey guys, thanks for the responses. Your input is very useful.

Axis, i'm originally from Chesterfield, VA, but live most of the year in blacksburg where I go to school at Virginia Tech.

I really want to produce an EP and experiment with home recording..

hmm... I really want the MXL 603's... but I'm going to try getting the 2 ecm8000's instead and see if I can set the room up like that. After all, if I dont like it , I can always Ebay them and get ther mxls.

So ok..

Definately the sm 57 on snare

How much does the AT pro 25 run?

ecm8000s (2)

Total 4 mics.. good right?


Now.. our cymbals are Sabian B8's..not bad for a starter cymbal set ..... but still not the best.. Is there a way to position the mics to prevent like extra ringing noises?


Thanks-

Dave

http://listen.to_msg_vt
 
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