Maybe this is a dumb question, but...

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xxl said:
i won't debate the subject since i'm talking here with producers from a past generation so it'll be useless. :D
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Wow, there's a major news flash right there worth of breaking in with a special report:

The laws of physics change from generation to generation! Wow, this will throw the whole of science from Francis Bacon on to Steven Hawking right on it's ear. I had no idea that the properties of sound propagation and acoustical engineering that held true back when I started learning them ten years before xxl was even conceived, and have worked better than a Swiss watch ever since, no longer hold true. It makes me wonder just what color the sky is for today's generation.

It also makes me feel sorry for xxl. Now that he's an incredibly wise old codger of 20 years old, he already has a new generation coming up and chewing on his butt, ready to take everything he's learned and discard it as incorrect. I give it another seven years before he becomes a useless old man like the rest of us. That is if he's even alive; because with the laws of nature constantly changing, who knows if it will even sustain life as we know it by 2017.

Enjoy your delusions now, xxl, because time is your enemy and it's running out on you really fast.

:rolleyes:

G.
 
I'd like to see one example, just one, of a pro studio with no acoustic treatments whatsoever or reference monitors, and instead they use computer speakers.
 
listen to you dinosaurs..Im recording my next four albums on my i-phone!!
 
xxl said:
the room treatment myth. jesus christ.

it's valid for recording but not for mixing. it's one of the most stupid arguments i've seen.
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ROFL! I thought you were kidding about that in that other thread! You're fucking serious!? Haha, stop giving advice.
 
I may be off base here (though I doubt it)...but I think his arguments stem mainly from a budget deficit position in that he's been forced to use inexpensive consumer gear and makeshift recording spaces and now has no choice but to make wild claims in order to support his "gear/production" "choices". :D
(That is nothing new on audio forums coming from some newbies and misguided yutz. :p )

When he gets a bit older and has some clams to drop on more serious stuff or perhaps one day walks into a quality studio...all that shit will go out the window like a pail of dirty water...
...or he will forever cling to his misconceptions and spend the rest of his life arguing his position on internet audio forums just like one of those guys walking the streets with a sign around his neck that reads:
“THE END IS NEAR….REPENT!” ;)
 
Also, how can you pick out flaws on cheap speakers and not on good monitors? I hope we're all missing the sarcasm or something :confused:
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
Wow, there's a major news flash right there worth of breaking in with a special report:

The laws of physics change from generation to generation!
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Totally off-topic, but it is looking more and more like they actually do!
http://www.2physics.com/2007/07/changing-constants-dark-energy-and.html
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v428/n6979/full/428132a.html
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/293/5534/1410b

OK, we're talking minute changes over 10's of billions of years but still. It really does look like the constants of nature (laws of physics) actually do change over time.
 
miroslav said:
I may be off base here (though I doubt it)...but I think his arguments stem mainly from a budget deficit position in that he's been forced to use inexpensive consumer gear and makeshift recording spaces and now has no choice but to make wild claims in order to support his "gear/production" "choices". :D
(That is nothing new on audio forums coming from some newbies and misguided yutz. :p )

When he gets a bit older and has some clams to drop on more serious stuff or perhaps one day walks into a quality studio...all that shit will go out the window like a pail of dirty water...
...or he will forever cling to his misconceptions and spend the rest of his life arguing his position on internet audio forums ljust like one of those guys walking the streets with a sign around his neck that reads:
“THE END IS NEAR….REPENT!” ;)
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This is truth.
 
I've got to give it to xxl. Completely hijacked this thread. You all can keep piling on but I suggest you turn your cheek and walk away. Comments like this don't deserve this type of attention.
 
Yeah...but it's fun when the target is SO BIG that you can't miss...:D

...and it goes good with the morning coffee. ;)
 
So this may look stupid, but I found out that old recordings, let's say around 1980 and older stuff sounds good on the "shitty-boxes", but recent music sounds awful. The reason is with today's technology, they master the overall mix way louder than before, and this is why my speakers are destroying the songs. Too much bass, really fuzzy, etc.

I was too upset I guess about my songs sounding good on those crappy speakers, which is, when I think about it, a little stupid. I gave up trying. If it sounds good on my monitors and inmy car or whatever, that's the point. No matter what I try anyway, even if the sound is good on the "shitty-boxes", I'm sure it'll sound like hell on real monitors.

All this for a little thing so meaningless... Sorry! :D:rolleyes:
 
Chibi Nappa said:
OK, we're talking minute changes over 10's of billions of years but still. It really does look like the constants of nature (laws of physics) actually do change over time.
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The constants and the laws are not necessarily the same thing. One can change the speed of light constant, but all that does is change the value of c in E=mc^2. It does not change the law E=mc^2 itself.

And you're right; totally off topic. But fun nonetheless ;).

G.
 
kcearl said:
listen to you dinosaurs..Im recording my next four albums on my i-phone!!
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That's fine for recording, but 'having to listen' during mixing is a myth. I just move the faders up and down till the lights next to them bounce the same height. You don't need speakers at all.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
And how's that working out for you? ;)

G.
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the battery's ran out

saads said:
That's fine for recording, but 'having to listen' during mixing is a myth. I just move the faders up and down till the lights next to them bounce the same height. You don't need speakers at all.
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its all visual...as soon as i see the red led i push 'em a bit more!
 
kcearl said:
the battery's ran out
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I picked this tip up from the book "Alternative Guerrilla Home Recording and Badminton Techniques" by Orin Bommarito (available at most of your finest gas station mini-marts, right next to the trucker's pillows). You may consider it old school, but sometimes there's no school like old school:

You can power your mePod without ever having to worry about your Steve-Jobs-stupid unreplaceable battery again by making a hamster wheel-like device out of an old round multi-CD-R storage case, and placing a particularly spunky Madagascar hissing cockroach inside. Wrap a large rubber band of the type used by the US Postal Service around the circumference of the CD-R case and stretch the other end around the pole of a small motor taken out of an old Aurora HO-scale slot car (the 1960 Ford Falcon is preferred). Then run the leads from that motor to the USB port of the mePod, and you have a power source that will live for about three hundred million years, and survive any catastrophe from asteroid impact to nuclear war.

He further goes on to advise that if your pet shop does not carry Madagascar hissing cockroaches, that you can always just glue a couple of pigeon feathers on the end of your dead mePod, and it'll make a great badminton birdie.

HTH,

G.
 
PoeticIntensity said:
*wiping the tears away... Holy cow, this thread had me laughing till I hurt! :laughings:
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What scares me, PI, is you are the first one in a week to respond in any way at all to the last post.

I have this scary feeling that there are thousands of newbs out there that took it seriously and are even now scouring their local AM/PM Mini-Marts and Truckstop Americas looking for that book.

That wouldn't bother me that much normally, but the other day I was walking down Michigan Avenue here in downtown Chicago, checking out all the pigeons that frequent the sidewalks, and I noticed that the ones in front of the Apple store seemed to be missing far more feathers than the rest were.

G.
 
saads said:
That's fine for recording, but 'having to listen' during mixing is a myth. I just move the faders up and down till the lights next to them bounce the same height. You don't need speakers at all.
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Quite right... and it's even better if you can make sure that all of the lights light up the whole time in every tune you mix.

Cheers,

Otto
 
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