Just Getting Into Home Recording

[PorterhouseMusic]

" the love you take is equal to the love you make"
I agree, this is not a friendly exchange but as I said, it is a cultural thing. I just find boastful, strutting, braces twanging people hard to like. I dare say The guy is not that keen on me either!

I have been active on audio forums for over ten years (you can find me as "ef37a" goo'on! ask me why! on soundonsound and as ecc83 here and another Brit called "thefretboard" Check 'em out and I am sure they will tell I am not a bad chap.

Dave.

The opinion I shared above has nothing to do with you, friend. Or any other individual. It's the big picture - over the long haul that I'm talking about. Some of these things have a vibe, a culture. This one just happens to be a little dark, imo. I assume that's one reason it's so dead here.

If it were up to me - I'd give this place a big makeover and get the door swinging.

 

[Papanate]

You qualified for those weird psyche evaluations dude. Really?

JUST THE TRACKS, MAN.

The youth group I was a part of in 1985 had young adults as talented as them. Singing, guitars, keyboard, everything. Don't place these "successful musicians" on such a high pedestal. Success has nothing to do with talent level. You just want to drop names I guess.

No they are people I met and interacted with = not name dropping - were the people that were talented in your youth group weird in bad way?

 

[Slouching Raymond]

I have been on a more unfriendly forum, about drones.
They deleted my first post, for being off-topic.
But it wasn't off topic at all, just not in tune with them flattering themselves.
So I never went back.

 

[Slouching Raymond]

Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X cans - closed back
Beyerdynamic DT 900 Pro X cans - open back
Rupert Neve Designs RNHP Headphone Amplifier
AEA Nuvo N22 Ribbon Mic/Active

Nice kit.

 

[ecc83]

"that's one reason it's so dead here." Possibly Mr P but I think the rot set in with many forums with the growth of social media, facebark and twatter etc. I was with a car forum for a few years then it folded and went over to the "socials". People seem to think that if they get audio advice from every crazy bastard on futbook with no idea of the persons knowledge it is better than here with the likes of Rob and Sweetbeats!

Soundonsound.com keeps going pretty well but then they are attached to a very well respected magazine and the moderators are mainly "stooodio guys" with years of experience. They are very good at weeding out the nutters.

Dave.

 

[DM60]

I think for a beginner, the OP has some very impressive gear. Maybe he is accomplished enough to be at that level. I know for me, this was someone's tag line, cheap mic, cheap instruments, cheap gear, and a crappy room. Still getting it done. I think that sums up most of us, but not all for sure.

Yes, weeding out the audio fruitcakes (I qualified it), does seem to come off harsh, but I think even if this is a dead site, A-holes, the advice given hear is pretty much 99% good. I think there is always room for an opinion that I might not like ;P But it is always solid.

OP, just think about that and remember all of the pretenders out there. Folks here are trying to keep the pretenders to a minimum.

 

[PorterhouseMusic]

"that's one reason it's so dead here." Possibly Mr P but I think the rot set in with many forums with the growth of social media, facebark and twatter etc. I was with a car forum for a few years then it folded and went over to the "socials". People seem to think that if they get audio advice from every crazy bastard on futbook with no idea of the persons knowledge it is better than here with the likes of Rob and Sweetbeats!

Soundonsound.com keeps going pretty well but then they are attached to a very well respected magazine and the moderators are mainly "stooodio guys" with years of experience. They are very good at weeding out the nutters.

Dave.

Don't disagree with any of that.

 

[PorterhouseMusic]

but I think even if this is a dead site, A-holes, the advice given hear is pretty much 99% good. I think there is always room for an opinion that I might not like ;P But it is always solid.

Don't disagree with any of that, either. For 25 years, on and off, - I've done a ton more reading/listening here than talking. This place is a valuable resource in that sense.

 

[Rampant Colt]

OP, just think about that and remember all of the pretenders out there. Folks here are trying to keep the pretenders to a minimum.

Do you think I’m pretending?

 

[LazerBeakShiek]

Its not dead here. Moves at a nice slow pace. The bulletin board is not tik tok. How often do you want to come here?

The forum is nice. You can touch base with active home recording people across most adult age groups.

 

[DM60]

Do you think I’m pretending?

Dude, you just read into my words something that couldn't be further from the intention. There are others who come here and just do drive by's and spout shit. People here are just cautious.

Look, just reset and read the advice and throwaway the bad (which there will be little of here), keep the good and get moving to your goals. It isn't a bad site, just full of strong opinions. Like you.

 

[Rampant Colt]

Dude, you just read into my words something that couldn't be further from the intention. There are others who come here and just do drive by's and spout shit. People here are just cautious.

Look, just reset and read the advice and throwaway the bad (which there will be little of here), keep the good and get moving to your goals. It isn't a bad site, just full of strong opinions. Like you.

Fair enough.

I’ve been treated like a fucking piñata since the first fucking day I got here. If anyone should be cautious, it’s me.

For those keeping track at home on how much I’ve spent (since this seems to be a relevant theme), just ask. I’ll be happy to give it to you.

 

[DM60]

Fair enough.

I’ve been treated like a fucking piñata since the first fucking day I got here. If anyone should be cautious, it’s me.

For those keeping track at home on how much I’ve spent (since this seems to be a relevant theme), just ask. I’ll be happy to give it to you.

I just know, from what little I know, you have some nice stuff for a beginner. A lot of people try to spend their way to a good recording. That just won't won't work. From good to better, but the basics are more important here. Lots of people spend way too much money before they even understand what they are buying. You obviously are more experienced than what the title leads most of us to think.

Normally a person comes here, and the goal is to try to get them in cheap and start learning. You know there is more to it than a mic and just hit record. Tracking rooms, mixing rooms, frequencies, pops, getting the mic placed right, etc. No amount of money will help learn those things. So, most tend to make sure people keep it simple/cheap until they know what they are doing.

I think it appeared you were newer than you really are. Or, you are newer than you really think. (Not a slam, just food for thought). Push record, post something and let's see what you got. You do have nice equipment, let's hear it.

 

[TalismanRich]

Rampant, I've had people make negative comments on my gear elsewhere, but in the opposite direction. Since I don't have a high end interface with multiple external preamps, a box of Neumanns, and a mile of Mogami cable, there's no way I can get radio ready results.

My comment was that I'm not doing radio recordings, and get perfectly acceptable results with my moderate setup. I didn't get butt hurt like some folks might. I've got moderately priced gear, that frankly sounds much better to me than the stuff available when I started playing with recording 50 years ago. And it's less money today than it was then, not even considering inflation. $1000 back then bought you a Teac 3340, nothing else. Today I could get a multitrack digital recorder and at least 4 decent mics with stands and headphones. Frankly, I could easily spend $50,000 on gear and not be worried about where my next meal is coming from, which is not the case for many people who get into recording.

I remember when Miroslav was building his studio. He spent a tremendous amount of time and money to create a commercial grade studio. More power to him. He had the means to do so. I'm sure he's enjoying it. I certainly hope he is.

On the other hand I spent some time over the past couple of years working with a fellow who lives in an apartment, has a Zoom camera, two $120 mics, a Scarlett interface and one old guitar. His computer is a used laptop. His recordings sound really good, better to me than some hit records from back in the 60s. He used those same two mics and an upright piano to produce a CD of his music, and sold most of his several thousand copies.

As I said earlier. I'm interested in hearing some of your work. You appear to have the chops, and you have the gear. Enjoy making some music with it.

 

[LazerBeakShiek]

I remember when Miroslav was building his studio. He spent a tremendous amount of time and money ....

Yeah that dude was crazy! So many of the SAME AMPLIFIER. He has to be in some looney bin somewhere. It wasn't just fun for him.

or how about Italiano D' Angelous or whatever? Going on about "+4 line level".

Legends

 

[TalismanRich]

Yeah that dude was crazy! So many of the SAME AMPLIFIER. He has to be in some looney bin somewhere. It wasn't just fun for him.

or how about Italiano D' Angelous or whatever? Going on about "+4 line level".

Legends

The man had the money to pay for it, let him enjoy it. Welfare recipients don't often build a studio with a grand piano, a Hammond, full drum kit, 30 guitars and a dozen amps, plus a full console, several 19" racks and 2" tape machines.

Other people spend their money buying Ferraris and McLarens, or second or third houses.

It's not my money and it's not my business.

(I might think differently if I won $300 million in the lottery, but then I would have to buy a ticket first! )

 

[LazerBeakShiek]

The man had the money to pay for it, let him enjoy it. Welfare recipients don't often build a studio with a grand piano, a Hammond, full drum kit, 30 guitars and a dozen amps, plus a full console, several 19" racks and 2" tape machines.

Other people spend their money buying Ferraris and McLarens, or second or third houses.

I had my fun too. It happens. My Supercharged nitrous fed... is still in the garage, wanna see a picture of it right now? You know they only make a few cars with a manual transmission nowadays? Unreal.

not my business.

suppose youre right.

 

[LazerBeakShiek]

Hey, ever drive a newish Buick Envista? I had one as a rental car in WI. The damn thing was fast. 310 hp or something 8 speed transmission. To -60 in like 5 seconds. Still could fit 2 4x12's in back seats down and the PA.

 

[Slouching Raymond]

The man had the money to pay for it, let him enjoy it. Welfare recipients don't often build a studio with a grand piano, a Hammond, full drum kit, 30 guitars and a dozen amps, plus a full console, several 19" racks and 2" tape machines.

Other people spend their money buying Ferraris and McLarens, or second or third houses.

It's not my money and it's not my business.

(I might think differently if I won $300 million in the lottery, but then I would have to buy a ticket first! )

I have probably spent well over £50,000 total on my studio kit, and instruments.
The biggest ticket items were two Esmono acoustic booths (20 years ago) and my modest SSL console.
The cost hurts at the time, and is forgotten in time.
It all just becomes a facility to enjoy using.
Rather than jetting round the world to bragg about holiday destinations, I've made a destination right
here at my home, which is cheap to use for my music hobby.
You can keep Ferraris and McLarens.
If I had the space, I'd already have that grand piano. I did check some out a while back.

 

[RFR]

In the ninety’s I had a commercial studio. Started out as a place for our band to record whenever we wanted to. The saying “how do you make god laugh? Tell him your plans” comes to mind.

Long story short one day me and a friend were in the control room just chilling and playing some guitar.

I was bitching how I couldn’t afford a Porsche 911 Oh how sad it all was.
My buddy sad nothing but instead was looking around the room like he was analyzing something. After a minute or so he spoke.
“Dude! You have a Porsche sitting right in this room.”

That took me back cause he was right. It wasn’t that I couldn’t afford one. It was a matter of the studio being a priority, not a car.

The moral? Spend your damn money wherever and however you see fit.


Ps. Year’s later I picked up a 78 911 Targa.