Mic pres will surely be noisy for recording, but may help for the first steps.
For me, there are two things seriously awry about that statement. Firstly, if a preamp is noisy, then I don't really see how it can be of any help whatsoever. It'll cripple you before you ever get to be able to take steps. The whole point of a preamp is to boost a weak signal so you get a good healthy one at the requisite level. A noisy preamp is like a printer that smudges every vowel.
But it's a suspect notion that "the pres will surely be noisy". I have the MIC2200 and the 6 preamps in the UB1832 and they're not noisy at all.
So I'd not start with something that has a higher loss of value when resold than the behringer costs...
While I understand this, I have a concept that I live by, I call it "Dead money". That is, once I have spent the money, it is dead. The same way it is if I buy a meal or a comic or spend it for bus fare or petrol or buy a drink. Dead. As a dodo.
D A I D !!
So resale value becomes irrelevant to me and I'm free to use the gear as I please without worrying about what it may be worth in two years time. It's really quite liberating. I don't care what my house is worth. Don't give a fribley on the cranston. I'm not thinking of selling it. This is where I live ! I cross bridges
if I need to and
when I get to them.
That way, should there be any resale, it's a bonus. It is not possible for me to lose money on an item because I've already spent the money.
It's already gone. It's dead money.
the pres in the mixers are OK and the MIC2200 is very quiet. OK they are not top line pres, but then neither is the price. Let me say that most of the hiss people seem to get is a bad gain setup.
I'd have to agree with this. I found the MIC2200 was sometimes magnificent, sometimes hummy hissy. One day I asked myself what made the difference. It was when I used a 1/4" jack~XLR cable that I found I didn't get a loud enough signal. So of course, I'd boost various settings, introducing the requisite amount of hum and hiss. I noticed that using a cable that was male to female XLR ended that because the signal was loud and clear with no hiss. No hum. No boosts needed. So much so, that you could be 7~8 feet away from the mic and get a good vocal. Dynamic or condenser mics would pick up the sound of you scratching your head ! If you listen closely to acoustic guitars or vocals, sometimes on the track is the sound of my kids playing downstairs !!
i wouldn't say Behringer is that bad, but more it's not that good.
This is known in the trade as "Damning with faint praise ".
compared them with other stuffs. For example, my first mixing desk was a Behringer and it was doing the job quite fairly.Then one day i went to a friend and heard the same desk but build by Mackie and the difference was so huge that change the Behringer for a Mackie became an evident need.
Lots of people feel that way about their kids, wives, husbands, boyfriends, girlfriends......
Seriously though, that's natural and isn't down to one company or another. If you hear something that, to your ears, makes a big difference above and beyond what you currently have, then it makes sense to start asking yourself whether or not it's time to move on and possibly look at acquiring that other thing. People make all kinds of gear moves. Price point is not necessarilly the yardstick by which something is judged. Someone with a lo~fi taste/ear may make the exact opposite move to you, for precisely the same reasons.
Progress at the rate you progress at.
I think one of the main problems with Behringer gear is that they make some gear that I find really good, and some gear that is very average.
As I'm sure do many companies that don't get Behri bashings on a regular basis. Behringer seems to be "historical Nazis" of the HR.com cyberspace and anyone that speaks up for them, an appeaser !
However I think the effects pedals are rubbish,
I have the wah~wah pedal and it's not very good. Actually, it's pretty crap. But I've owned 4 different makes before {including a Dunlop} and they all were not much better.
what I am saying is that with Behringer gear you can't judge it all by the performance of just a few of their products
But people will !
