Interesting what I learned about the DMP-3

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christiaan said:
I know you have both experience with the DMP3 and the Mindprint DI-Port of which I heard you say good things in the past as well. Both cost practically the same in Europe (€250-260,-). What would be your choice? To me, having the DI-Port's converters would be a welcome bonus where I'd find use for but it would not be vital to have them.
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The mindprint converters are ridiculously under-rated.

If all you have is a typical PCI card, then yea, the DI port is a no-brainer. If you're already using something that has the A/D conversion housed in a breakout box; like a Delta 1010 Echo, or similar, then it won't be as much of an improvement.

The pres are crystal clean, but be forewarned it's sort of a color preamp in a way. It has about the highest impedence I've ever seen on a pre -- budget or otherwise -- so it's going to impart a bit of a natural treble boost. Great for accoustic guitar, or for adding a little extra air to a duller-sounding mic, for example. In that sense it's not totally flat or transparent.

By the way . . . the cleanest, slickest, most natural and professional-sounding vocal track I've ever heard anyone on this board do was in the mp3 clinic last year . . . and it was tracked with a BLUE mic plugged in to one of those M-audio Omni-studios.
 
tigerbomb said:
If anyone has any recordings done by DMP3, I'd like to hear it - perferrably vox or acoustic guitar track.
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Honestly, I wish I had something better. But this is the only example I have where the dmp3 was used on every track. It was just a rough and dirty demo I recorded for a client / friend.

We were basically just trying to work some bugs out and get an idea of what the song sounded like. Recording conditions were not ideal by any stretch. Anyway, the second one, "some day," was tracked entirely with the dmp3:

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=1298&alid=531

For the most part, I've been using the dmp3 almost exclusively on electric guitar, with either the BLUE dragonfly or an sm57 plugged in to it. The first two songs here on the list are decent examples -- some of the best electric guitar sounds I've gotten to date (the bass was di'ed through the dmp3, also). These were tracked in much better conditions than the above example, by the way :

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=1298&alid=357
 
Thanks Chessrock, those are pretty cool tunes and they give me ideas about what DMP3 is capable of.
 
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When you buy a Mackie mixer, you're getting a preamp so good that many engineers actually carry one of our mixers with them to supplement (or replace) the mic preamps on big consoles..."



This atatement says it all. Mackie Pre-Amps are the best pre under $1K (or above!!!)

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acorec said:
Big Console Quality Preamps

"Even the most expensive microphone is compromised when you run it through a cheap mic preamplifier. Before Mackie, that was what you got unless you spent $20,000 to $200,000 on a big console.

When you buy a Mackie mixer, you're getting a preamp so good that many engineers actually carry one of our mixers with them to supplement (or replace) the mic preamps on big consoles..."



This atatement says it all. Mackie Pre-Amps are the best pre under $1K (or above!!!)

Ends all the threads about pre-amps for good!
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You're being sarcastic, right? Quoting sales material?
 
You mean it is not true? I , for one, am very let down...........sigh
 
I just thought I’d add my two cents here. I got my DMP3 to replace my Presonus Blue Tube, and not only does it beat it, it blows it away. 40 db of gain on the Blue Tube was a hissy mess. You can barely hear the hiss with 40 db of gain on the DMP3. I’ve only recorded an acoustic track with this thing, but it’s detailed, open, and quiet. It’s not as quiet as the pre in my Focusrite Penta, but I think it sounds just a little nicer on acoustic and a little more detailed, although maybe just a little less smooth. I’m guessing it’s going to sound great on vocals going into my RNP.

It beats my Joe Meek MQ3 on almost everything. That pre is now the dog of my rack.
 
cominginsecond said:
I just thought I’d add my two cents here. I got my DMP3 to replace my Presonus Blue Tube, and not only does it beat it, it blows it away. 40 db of gain on the Blue Tube was a hissy mess. You can barely hear the hiss with 40 db of gain on the DMP3. I’ve only recorded an acoustic track with this thing, but it’s detailed, open, and quiet. It’s not as quiet as the pre in my Focusrite Penta, but I think it sounds just a little nicer on acoustic and a little more detailed, although maybe just a little less smooth. I’m guessing it’s going to sound great on vocals going into my RNP.

It beats my Joe Meek MQ3 on almost everything. That pre is now the dog of my rack.
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run that by me again ur going to run ur dmp3 thru your rnp???:confused:
 
Funk, you are indeed correct, the DMP2 does NOT provide full 48v phantom power. The DMP3 DOES.

I like the DMP3 and think it's a good pre, however, (typically) the best vocal microphone found so far for me is the Beyer M88TG, and it really clicks with the VTB-1-more so than the DMP3.

IMHO, it's best to start with the mic that flatters the sound source first, then try to find a well matching pre rather than vice versa.

Chris
 
taken from another thread, phantom power on the dmp2 is fine with one mic...when a second mic is used, the second channel only gets ~ 44.6v.........
 
Chessrock:

You didn't happen to have a delta card together with that di-port you had, did you?

If you had, was it possible to record 10 channels at once, in sync, (analog ins + spdif)?
 
Yea, worked like a charm, in fact. Just make sure you have a fast processor, enough RAM, and set your buffers accordingly.
 
Wow! It seems like this DI-port is a great "bang per buck" here in europe. At the same cost as a DMP3 I get two good preamps, probably a better AD/DA converter than I already have (1010lt), I can use all 10 channels of the soundcard and as bonus I get a volume knob that I can use for active monitors! This seems to good to be true.

Thanks chess!
 
cominginsecond said:
I just thought I’d add my two cents here. I got my DMP3 to replace my Presonus Blue Tube, and not only does it beat it, it blows it away. 40 db of gain on the Blue Tube was a hissy mess. You can barely hear the hiss with 40 db of gain on the DMP3. I’ve only recorded an acoustic track with this thing, but it’s detailed, open, and quiet. It’s not as quiet as the pre in my Focusrite Penta, but I think it sounds just a little nicer on acoustic and a little more detailed, although maybe just a little less smooth. I’m guessing it’s going to sound great on vocals going into my RNP.

It beats my Joe Meek MQ3 on almost everything. That pre is now the dog of my rack.
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I also. replaced my Blue Tube. When the BT Blueup on me (get it?) I got a Voicemaster PRO for a cheap price. I don't like to say bad things about 1 bad experience with a product, but, not only did the BT burn up, but it just plain sucked as far as sound was concerned. It DID excel at wasting electricity, however. So, it was good at SOMETHING at least.
 
Swede said:
At the same cost as a DMP3 I get two good preamps, probably a better AD/DA converter than I already have (1010lt), I can use all 10 channels of the soundcard and as bonus I get a volume knob that I can use for active monitors! This seems to good to be true.
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It's a usefull device to have around.
 
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