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		paddyponchero
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Bob's Mods said:I gave this thread up for dead but it seems to have sustained life. Interesting stuff about reworking surface mount. It is still more of a bother to work with than DIP stuff which preceeded it. It does take some practice and if components are too close it can be really tough. This stuff is designed for reduced real estate and repair of it is an after thought.
Surface mount and DSP related parts are not designed to be repaired for the long term. When it breaks its dead. The world of digital components changes too fast and older parts cannot always be found for repair and compatible parts may not exist. If the manufacturer does not want to service it any longer you'll be out of luck depending on the nature of the problem. The rule of thumb for repairs of todays gear is seven years, after that its up the manufacturer.
These days, the newer, digital based, plastic cased stuff with surface mount won't be the vintage gear of tomorrow. When it dies, you won't be able to reverse engineer it to make it work again. Manufacturers want this stuff out of the pipeline and want you to consider new gear. Vintage is vintage. If you can see the components without glasses and its analog, then you can probably fix it for a long time.
We live in a world of throw away electronics now.
I worked in manufacturing repair for a couple of years and even with all the parts and schematics available it's still extremely hard to repair any kind of digital problems. We were working with Sony DSP parts which were extremely sensitive to sync problems even a bit of flux on a cap could throw the whole thing out.
I'm pretty disheartened everytime I have to throw something out, I can fix almost anything but when it's a problem with a programmable part it's straight into the bin. I have a lot of older electronics stuff that the eproms have started to lose their programming.
Spent the last week cleaning up an ancient philips valve stereo amp which I know I'll have for the rest of my days. Hurray for discretes
