I Love This Quote - Oh So True

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I have nothing to add, contribute or express. But this thread is so much fun - it's like a party! I can't *NOT* be part of it!

Pass the chips and dip! (...anybody got any papers?)

Zimmy
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ns:
i guess if you actually believe that 1500 dollars is representative of what the average home recordist can spend on a mic, you can tear every mic apart.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok, now i'm confused. What the F@#K is ns tlaking about.... R.E. was comparing the C3000 to the NT1 not the Octava (I almost forgot, from sound room only) :)

omnipotent
 
This thread was totally informative,instructive,argumentative,opinion-nated,destructive,enlightening,formulative,
cumulatative and quantatative.Both R.E. and N.S. registered valid statements(and invalid 'disses). I just sat back and enjoyed
the punch/counterpunch (for want of a better description) between these 2 combatants.You know sumthin',every one has their own preference when it comes to styles of music,
ideal equipment,various techniques and eating habits(couldn't think of n-e thing else 2 say!)But the bottom line is to just sit back and listen,learn, experiment,question etc. 1 man's $200 mic may be suitable for his purpose than the other man's $1500.00 mic. N-E way in closing,I enjoyed this particular thread;but
my fellow home and studio recordists;If sum-1 totally disses' your statement(Yo NS ,you was wrong at saying what U said to R.E.) thier is no need to lower yourself to that individual's level just to make a come-back
(Yo R.E., you was wrong to say what NS should do to a certain mic).(D@mn,runnin' out of Heineken's).Let the teachers teach and the learners learn and every-1 in between share.Peace 2-fingers.

Aaron Collie
MisterQcue Sound Studio's.
 
NS:
Being an Oktava MC-319 owner (Bought from the Sound Room), unless you know anything about the specs on these mics, don't comment on them...Yes, there is only one person at The Sound Room, and his name is Taylor Johnson, who is not only a mic genius, but a man who will spend as long as you need him to answering the hardest of technical questions you need answered.
He has more integrity in his left nut than you could ever have, so read up before you accuse RE of being "brainwashed"...I call it awesome customer service and a great product.
 
MISTERQCUE:

Then forget about what I said too.

Peace to you as well.
 
ns:

"i guess if you actually believe that 1500 dollars is representative of what the average home recordist can spend on a mic, you can tear every mic apart."

Well when you consider the going rate of a Telefunken ELAM 251 or the fact that Stephen Paul stated that if he ever does decide to come-out with his own brand-new microphone (designed and manufactered by Stephen Paul Audio), then the price would be anywhere from $12k-16kUS; I consider under $1.5kUS for a "home recording" mic to be rather forgiving.

"and by the way, the ass comment says alot about your obsession with mics...."

You're right. I've admitted that many times; or did you miss that one too?

MISTERQCUE:

"(Yo R.E., you was wrong to say what NS should do to a certain mic)."

I don't think so... Maybe you misinterpreted what I had said; which was:

Why don't you go over to r.a.p. and argue with them? I promise they won't be as nice as we are here. They'll rape you with your precious AKG C3000 up you ass.

By the way, I'm joking and trying to keep a little humor in this because is don't take much seriously.

That was wrong? Not in my book.

"Both R.E. and N.S. registered valid statements(and invalid 'disses)."

Where are my "invalid 'disses"?
 
Whoa R.E.! 4-get about it! I wrote that at 2
am in the morn' and was dead tired after spending 6 hours (and a case of Heniken's)trying to get a particular vocalist to sing 1 of my song's the way i envisioned it.
To old to get in any heated debates.
I just added my 1 and 1/2 cents worth on topic i found extremely interesting!
Peace 2-fingers! :)
 
ok, i take back whatever i implied about the sound room or the guy that runs it. i have no idea what or where or who it is.
my point wasn't directed at it or him at all, and i admit i had no business insulting them if thats how it was taken.
however, i don't in anyway take back my comment on r.e. being wrong. granted, i could have used more tact in the way i stated it, but it was a rather provocative thread for him to begin. he was gloating, and i was attempting to call him on it.
anyway, i will continue to defend the c3000 as a great mic. in fact, looking for info on another mic i was interested in today, i came across reviews of the c3000 in two major industry magazines which found absolutly no glaring deficiencies in it, and were in fact quite complimentary....mix magazine actually mentioned that the c3000b was more reminiscent of a 414 than the original c3000...i guess that reviewer was talking out his ass too.
its funny, i've never seen an sm-57 on a "real" studio's mic list.
 
"however, i don't in anyway take back my comment on r.e. being wrong."

What am I wrong about? Wrong about giving my opinion? Are you mad at Harvey Gerst for giving his opinion for other's benefit too? You think people from r.a.p. who are very well respected in the recording industry have to participate there?

"granted, i could have used more tact in the way i stated it, but it was a rather provocative thread for him to begin. he was gloating, and i was attempting to call him on it."

Man, you were down-right disrespectful. Had you come here, disagreed with me, and presented your reasons why, you'd have a lot more respect from myself and everyone else. Man you might even make a friend or two here, but your disrepectful attitude from the beginning, in your very first post, is not a way to make friends or associates.

And I was gloating? Gloating? Anyone one else feel I've been gloating? And even if I was, you sure aren't looking any better by being disrespectful.

"anyway, i will continue to defend the c3000 as a great mic. in fact, looking for info on
another mic i was interested in today, i came across reviews of the c3000 in two major
industry magazines which found absolutly no glaring deficiencies in it, and were in fact
quite complimentary....mix magazine actually mentioned that the c3000b was more reminiscent of a 414 than the original c3000...i guess that reviewer was talking out his ass too."

I wouldn't know, but I can guarantee that there was money involved.

"its funny, i've never seen an sm-57 on a "real" studio's mic list."

HAHAHA!!! This says a lot. You forgot the word "NOT" in the phrase... Anyone care to list off all the "real" studios who use an SM57 on damn near every tracking seesion? Good luck, though, because I'd be surprised to find any "real" studio in the world that doesn't.

HAHAHA!!!
 
I can't see for the S-M-O-K-E in here RE's burning rubber all over the place :D
 
um, there must be money involved in you promoting the same mic over and over and over-i was far from the first person to mention it.
 
R.E. you seem to type HA alot.
are you laughing?
are you going insane?

and dougie whoever you are, you better check out the specs on my left nut before you comment on the amount of integrity in there.
 
I vote for this guy to be banned from here. He has been disrespectful to everyone here since his very first post. His intent does not seem to be positive. It would be if he was respectful to others while disagreeing, but he is not.
 
I think we all ought to be thankful that RE, a guy with a large bucket of mics, is willing to discuss the usefulness of each of them with the level of honesty and clarity he employs. You home recordists with no mics or just one mic; listen up and learn something.
Or just forget about microphones and spend your studio dollars on good drugs and whores.
There's one thing that Neumann can't do. :)
 
Ahhh, shuuuxx.

But seriously,
Thank You, drstwal. Thank You to all those here who have and will help me; you all know who you are. If the right intent is there, things will pan-out for us all.

I try to help with my own experiences. But when I have not had the experience, I try to at least point in the right direction toward someone whos' opinion I highly value and think can help-out.

Now you can take it or leave it, but don't get mad and insult me because you don't like my opinion.
 
I also appreciate your opinion, RE ... even though I own a C3000 and consider it to be one of my best mics. Honest feedback is why I come to this site. Even when it stings a little.
I'm not sure why ns got so wound up about this. I understood the quote that started this thread. I actually had that happen twice. Once when I upgraded from a SM57 to a Stedman N90 and then when I went to the C3000. I know that there are better mics out there ... but does that mean I should toss this one? No way ... but nobody ever implied that I should either. If/when I buy another mic ... what I choose will depend largely on the opinions given by members of this BBS. I'm getting a soundcard based on a lot of discussions on this board. I like the honest feedback and opinions of the other members. Even ns ... while a bit disrespectful ... really allowed for more specific discussion on this topic. I don't think banning is necessary. You can always ignore posts and not respond. Having his last 2 posts on this thread be the final word would have been punishment enough.
Anyway, my 2¢ are about up.
Peace
 
I just feel he shouldn't be welcome here if his intent is negative.
 
R.E. et al.

I've enjoyed your opinions and certainly following this chain, but I am a little confused and would like some additional comments on your opinion.

In another posting you quoted scott from r.a.p stating that
"""NT1s are made with the Shanghai U87-clone capsules, I believe. If you don't like the way one sounds, try another, because they all sound different. --scott""

Then in this chain you quote scott again:
""Audix, Meek, ADK, Marshall, and a couple other companies all sell microphones that are made in the Shanghai factory with the same U87 clone capsules""

You also recommend the NT1 many times, for that only 1 purchase, $200 mic.

Questions:
Do you endorse scott's comments, or just replayed them?
Is it possible your NT1 sounds great, but another might not?
Do you see my confusion?
Did I miss (or misinterpret) something?

I read the r.a.p review of the Marshall $200 offering, and if there are common components to the NT1 ... (chills!) :D

gordon
 
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