How to mix a home recording, budget edition..pt 1.

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OK I'm spamming because I'm trying to give newbs and other home recording enthusiast a tutorial to making a decent sounding record....thanks gotcha...I'll keep that in mind, personally I would of killed for someone to do this when I joined the site in 2001

Dude, relax man. You're going to pop a vein. :eek:

You missed my point. I'm not saying your intention is to SPAM. But if you know the definition of "spamming" in inter-net lingo, then what Greg is doing in this thread isn't Spamming. Spamming is when someone posts with the aim of selling, promoting or trying to get people to go to their site, etc.....By definition, what you're doing is much closer to that definition, regardless of how good your intentions are.
 
You know all the time you guys used for making useless comments you could of at least listened to the tracks...FYI you don't need to watch the video to hear the tracks...
 
You know all the time you guys used for making useless comments you could of at least listened to the tracks...FYI you don't need to watch the video to hear the tracks...

Why is that so important to you? What do you care if I go listen to your tracks.

For the record, I did watch a few minutes of your video when you first posted it. The sound was horrible, so I lost interest. Just because you post an instructional video, don't assume everyone here has something to learn from you. Some of us have been doing this for a while. So, while I appreciate your intention to help Newbies, I'm not one. So, I'll get my information and education from more reliable sources, thank you very much. No offense.
 
I'm not just trying to pile-on...but you know...I took the time (more like wasted) to check out ALL of the videos you posted here just so I didn't miss anything before writing a post, and I can't recall hearing any actual finished tracks.
You played some of the "reference" track in the first video...but that's it.
Then there's just a few short pieces of music here and there...most of which are masked by you always talking over them, and what wasn't masked...sounded really awful (the sound quality).
Maybe it's how you did the audio for the video...but there's nothing really great sounding in the videos, and I'm not just saying that because of the style of music.

On your two compressor/EQ videos you have some Kick/Snare beats going as you play around with plugin presets, and on the final video...there's maybe a few seconds of music, but again, it's mostly just you talking about all your plugins and the presets you used from each plugin.

I'm curious...if the plugins had NO presets and/or if you were using actual hardware instead of plugins...would you be able to work up a mix from scratch without presets?

It's a nice gesture about wanting to "teach" how to mix...but most of your videos just cover the gear/plugins you have and how you tweaked the plugin presets. There's no real mixing process or final mixes...so you're not "teaching" that much in the videos.
Maybe you might want to reevaluate your mixing process and how you "teach".
 
I'm not just trying to pile-on...but you know...I took the time (more like wasted) to check out ALL of the videos you posted here just so I didn't miss anything before writing a post, and I can't recall hearing any actual finished tracks.
You played some of the "reference" track in the first video...but that's it.
Then there's just a few short pieces of music here and there...most of which are masked by you always talking over them, and what wasn't masked...sounded really awful (the sound quality).
Maybe it's how you did the audio for the video...but there's nothing really great sounding in the videos, and I'm not just saying that because of the style of music.

On your two compressor/EQ videos you have some Kick/Snare beats going as you play around with plugin presets, and on the final video...there's maybe a few seconds of music, but again, it's mostly just you talking about all your plugins and the presets you used from each plugin.

I'm curious...if the plugins had NO presets and/or if you were using actual hardware instead of plugins...would you be able to work up a mix from scratch without presets?

It's a nice gesture about wanting to "teach" how to mix...but most of your videos just cover the gear/plugins you have and how you tweaked the plugin presets. There's no real mixing process or final mixes...so you're not "teaching" that much in the videos.
Maybe you might want to reevaluate your mixing process and how you "teach".

FYI the point wasn't to listen to the audio in the video it was to DL the mp3's from my sound cloud and listen and give you a starting point when you mix your own stuff or if more experienced share techniques for doing different things. Do you have any suggestions to improve this? I just purchased a new Canon camera no more iphone 4... but

here is my final mix

Final by teacha777 on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

and

here is the ruff mix from the artist

Finalref by teacha777 on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

the only plug-in I couldn't work without a preset PROBABLY would be Waves C6 everything else I'd be fine with no preset...the point of this was to be newb friendly, but I do usually use presets in S/W as starting points and work from there....why start from scratch when there's a preset that's pretty close to what i want? I also find that presets give you a good frame reference and better understanding of what the plug-ins does when hearing similar settings on different material...I appreciate that you took to the time to check it out and comeback with constructive feedback, too bad you missed the actual tracks though...

Are you the same Miroslav that has the philharmonik plug-in? if so great plug-in...
 
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You missed my point. I'm not saying your intention is to SPAM. But if you know the definition of "spamming" in inter-net lingo, then what Greg is doing in this thread isn't Spamming. Spamming is when someone posts with the aim of selling, promoting or trying to get people to go to their site, etc.....By definition, what you're doing is much closer to that definition, regardless of how good your intentions are.

Too make it more clear, I will give you an example of spamming:

Check out my tunes and become a fan

And then watch me whack off my guitar.


I hope I get a gazillion hits.



(This was purely for educational purposes and not to promote myself at all because we all know that would be wrong).
































don't forget to add me on facebook.
 
There you go; that didn't take long :D

I posted the final and the ruff mix...you be the judge...FYI it wasn't recorded with my equipment...vocals were recorded on a samson cheap condensor something or other and cheap pre..so take a listen before you pre-judge
 
Miroslav your sh!t sounds sick....that bass....OMG....whats the chain...and what efx did you add?
 
FYI the point wasn't to listen to the audio in the video it was to DL the mp3's from my sound cloud and listen and give you a starting point when you mix your own stuff or if more experienced share techniques for doing different things. Do you have any suggestions to improve this? I just purchased a new Canon camera no more iphone 4... but

here is my final mix

Final by teacha777 on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

and

here is the ruff mix from the artist

Finalref by teacha777 on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

the only plug-in I couldn't work without a preset PROBABLY would be Waves C6 everything else I'd be fine with no preset...the point of this was to be newb friendly, but I do usually use presets in S/W as starting points and work from there....why start from scratch when there's a preset that's pretty close to what i want? I also find that presets give you a good frame reference and better understanding of what the plug-ins does when hearing similar settings on different material...I appreciate that you took to the time to check it out and comeback with constructive feedback, too bad you missed the actual tracks though...

Are you the same Miroslav that has the philharmonik plug-in? if so great plug-in...


You version is an improvement over the "reference"...though I'm not crazy about the Kick...it's still too much "click" and not enough "THUMP"...but maybe that's the way you "beat" guys like it for that style of music.

AFA the videos...I would work on improving the audio quality, because when you are talking/teaching mixing...if the audio quality sucks, no one is going to pay much attention. You should find a better way to mic your narration, while feeding the direct out from the DAW to the video rather than letting the camera mic pick it up....or...edit/add the music in later, but you need some kind of video editor for that.

No...I'm not the Miroslav Philharmonik guy... :D
It's a fairly common name in the Slavish countries.

While your videos do cover a lot of the plugins and what they can do...if you are going to teach mixing, I think you need to take a different approach rather than just focusing on the plugins.
The song you put up...did you actually *mix* that or remix it from scratch...or are you really talking about just enhancing the existing tracks by applying various plugin processing?

Oh...what bass off of what song of mine...?
I usually do my bass DI and with nothing but some light compression...that's it. It's a big scale bass with flatwounds.
 
the you tube video...I was listening on my all in one Sony and it still sounded phat...

As far as the track, the artist mixed it and gave it to me tracked out and I mixed it...i didn't do it as the video was playing...I took about an hour or 2 on the second video the 3rd video I had to remix everything since I changed mixing s/w so that went from anywhere from 4- 6 hours at worse, not including breaks...
 
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Fair enough. Good luck. :)

No, I didn't listen. I don't feel there's anything for me to learn from beats and/or hip-hop, and I certainly don't have any tips for that genre.

after listening to your songs if you were going for that tiny, thin, edgy ITB sound, you nailed it....:D
 
after listening to your songs if you were going for that tiny, thin, edgy ITB sound, you nailed it....:D
Dude, have you ever recorded a real instrument ....ever? Put up a REAL drum track please. Then, maybe you can criticize someone else's work. You probably wouldn't even know where to start. Your thread is full of one excuse after another, coupled with a bunch of "I should have"s.....Fact is, you haven't got the slightest idea of what you're doing and you're the last person that should be trying to "teach" anything to anyone.

Even though it's obvious that the only reason you're attacking Greg has nothing to do with what you think of his recording and everything to do with the fact that you think he's "spamming" your thread. We've heard the results of your "recordings"....Believe me, you're in no position to criticize, let alone "teach". :laughings:
 
the reason I said it was because he's annoying yes, but his mixes sound like crap...Yours on the other hand do sound good...and please criticize my track I live to learn...
 
after listening to your songs if you were going for that tiny, thin, edgy ITB sound, you nailed it....:D

Ahhh, the classic reactionary "your recordings suck" defense. And this time from some half-assed hip-hop joke. I'm branching out. Lol. Let me know when you can actually play and record actual instruments, and we'll go from there.

Just don't do a drive-by on my house.
 
Ahhh, the classic reactionary "your recordings suck" defense. And this time from some half-assed hip-hop joke. I'm branching out. Lol. Let me know when you can actually play and record actual instruments, and we'll go from there.

Just don't do a drive-by on my house.

lol............
 
like I said I don't know everything and wanted to create a discussion,
A discussion is precisely what you've got. Thing is, you can't, on a public forum, control who says what or who thinks what or the direction the 'discussion' takes.

you talked sh!t about my mixing skill but didn't even listen....
You yourself admitted you weren't clear on what you were doing, but the thread is still called "How to mix a home recording".
after listening to the mixes on different systems I think I still need to get the mix a little bit clearer...i'll address it on the next segment...

To be honest Teach, while I'm not criticizing what you were about here, Greg's first question was a reasonable one. As was his conclusion.

how is it reasonable if he didn't even listen to the music?
Simply by the comments you made. It's difficult to take someone seriously as some kind of instructor if they can't actually instruct and they tell you so. You haven't encouraged someone that may want to learn to mix to listen to your stuff. Now they're more likely to do so out of morbid curiosity.

The point of me criticizing what I did, was to let the world know I felt I could've done it better,
How I did this series wasn't the right way to do it...I should of got the track sounding the way I wanted to first. Then go back to show how I got there....not do it as I'm posting the series, which was how it was done. I wanted to try to have updates weekly and rushed to put something out. It wasn't the best way to do it, I understand that...

I'm not criticizing you, your music or your intentions, I already said that. Your approach however, was unhelpful. For a start, it's unclear what your aim is because you're kind of ambiguous. A discussion on mixing is one thing. Stating "How to" is another. One may naturally lead to another, often does, as questions arise. But I honestly thought and still do, that it is at the very least reasonable to ask whether you should be teaching when you demonstrate that maybe you have difficulty in that area. I wasn't poking fun at you. It is a reasonable question.
 
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