How much for a Davisound Mic All Pre?

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You're right... I don't know much about Sytek, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :D

But seriously, the ONLY thing I know about Sytek is the 4-ch. preamp which I have used on numberous occasions. I DON'T know a thing about Mike himself! I've never corresponded with Mike. I've never said a thing about Mike. I won't say anything about Mike. No one has said a thing about Mike.

On the other hand, look what has been said here within, as well as elsewhere, about Hayne; without even a single contact with him!

But, I suppose that's what you get for being out in the open the way Hayne has put himself on the DaviSound website... Just as Stephen Paul has on the different newgroups and BBS'. To think what some people would say about some VERY well known designers, engineers, musicisans, etc. out there if they displayed what they REALLY thought openly for all to see... I've had phone conversation and exchanged emails with some of these people and I can already tell you they'd get hung dry opening-up in public the way they've graciously done with me!

Yes... Shame, shame on Hayne Davis for being as open, candid, honest, making attempts to educate, and being somewhat of a journalist, all on his own website for all to see!!! Funny how things I thought were so positive, can be taken so negatively as if nothing more than bullshit! I can't argue personal perspective or illusion...
 
Recording Engineer said:
jslator, I find it rather bizarre you come flying in here at random with what seems to be A LOT of anger and/or resentment toward Hayne Davis himself...
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No, no anger or resentment. He just seems like a bit of a dick.

This was one of the first things that I read on his site (in response to a question of why they hadn't seen any positive comments from Davisound users):

"...the majority of the clients who own, cherish and utilize DaviSound pro audio Tool Boxes are NOT likey to be inclined to "hang out" on newsgroups, chat rooms and message boards on the Internet!"

...as if anyone who hangs here or in any other group must just be part of the unwashed heathen masses who couldn't possibly understand quality recording gear. He appears to have a very high opinion of himself and a very low opinion of others. Thus, "dick".
 
jslator said:
...as if anyone who hangs here or in any other group must just be part of the unwashed heathen masses who couldn't possibly understand quality recording gear. He appears to have a very high opinion of himself and a very low opinion of others. Thus, "dick".
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He's probably right. ;)


lou
 
c7sus said:
Go on, flame away...
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Nah. Your doing an excellent job of making an ass of yourself. I don't think you need any more help from me.
 
c7sus said:
What's the "go-to" mic in your locker? I'm betting it's a B-1 or a C-1 through some crappy tewb pre. I'll also bet I've invested more money in my gobos here than you have spent on your entire mic collection.

You've got my vote for shithead-of-the-millenium.
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I guess that settles who the real prick is.
 
jslator, if I recall correctly, I believe the rest of your Hayne Davis quote was something to the effect of:
Quite frankly, they have better things to do with their time... Like actually recording!
 
Recording Engineer said:
jslator, if I recall correctly, I believe the rest of your Hayne Davis quote was something to the effect of:
Quite frankly, they have better things to do with their time... Like actually recording!
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I think the rest of the quote was something to the effect that no pro would ever hang on a recording board. Tell that to George Massenburg or Steve Albini. The bottom line is that I get a very self-important vibe from the stuff he wrote on his website. That's it. I've never gotten that sort of vibe from other small manufacturers. Mark McQuilkin at FMR audio is a great guy. From what I know of Mike Stoica at Sytek, he seems like a nice guy. Regarding some of the larger manufacturers, check out Gearslutz to see what Dave Derr of Empirical Labs is like. Or check out George Massenburg's forum. None of those guys have attitude. It's not necessary.
 
It's useless, Slator.

There are those on this board who just believe that it's wrong to express negative opinions or to be sceptical / critical about anything. Correction: wrong to express negative opinions or even mild concern regarding things or people that they like.

Even if your concerns are totally valid.

These are the guys who could really benefit from some wad-free panties.
 
jslator said:
I think the rest of the quote was something to the effect that no pro would ever hang on a recording board.
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I would hope you're not claiming things you blatantly know are not true... As it says NOTHING to that effect!

Here's what we're talking about if anyone cares to read for themselves:
http://www.davisound.com/FAQs.html#Nay
 
Recording Engineer said:
I would hope you're not claiming things you blatantly know are not true... As it says NOTHING to that effect!
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OK, I was going by memory, but now I've gone back to look. The next sentence reads:

"Most of these are seasoned pros and veterans in recording, broadcast and multimedia."

So, we have: "...[Davisound users] are NOT likey to be inclined to "hang out" on newsgroups...", immediately followed by "[Davisound users] are seasoned pros and veterans in recording, broadcast and multimedia."

To me, the two statements were intended to relate and to say that seasoned pro's are not likely to hang out on newsgroups. Whether that's true or not, it was clearly intended to denigrate anyone who hangs out on a newsgroup (or at least anyone who hangs out on a newsgroup and questions Davisound in any way).

Get it?

Look, it's real simple. I have said three things here:

(1) From what I've read on the Davisound website, the guy who runs it seems to me like a bit of a dick.

(2) If I can't either hear or try a Davisound product before buying one, or return it after buying it if I'm not satisfied, then I'll find somewhere else to spend my money.

(3) Point 2 above is a completely rational way to approach product buying decisions, though clearly not one followed by all.

You seem to take major issue with Point 1, but what can I say? From what he's written the guy rubs me the wrong way. I think Fletcher is a good guy, but I understand how he could rub some people the wrong way. Can't you see how this Davisound guy might do the same?

My second two points seem to spur a violent rage in C7sus. That boggles my mind, but I've written it off to the guy being a bit nuts - probably some issues stemming from his childhood or something.

I'm willing to bet Davisound doesn't give a shit either way about anything I've said. They pretty much already say that on their website.
 
Recording Engineer said:
You can demo MY DaviSound gear right here in my studio! My doors are open! In fact, I encourage people to!
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I'd love to take you up on that offer.

I live in Orangevale, a stones' throw from Pershing Elementary school.

Bruce Gavin
doc@compudox.com
 
Recording Engineer said:
I would hope you're not claiming things you blatantly know are not true... As it says NOTHING to that effect!

Here's what we're talking about if anyone cares to read for themselves:
http://www.davisound.com/FAQs.html#Nay
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Direct Quote from their website
"As for endorsement comments from users ... quite frankly, not meaning to be flippant or abasive in any way, but the majority of the clients who own, cherish and utilize DaviSound pro audio Tool Boxes are NOT likey to be inclined to "hang out" on newsgroups, chat rooms and message boards on the Internet"
 
Iread nearly everypage there at the Davisound website. I personally found nothing arrogant or elitish about the site. It may be becasuse I work in the engineering field with electrical engineers, radar and surveillance designers etc...
I actually felt that the site was meant to be taken with a certain amount of tongue in cheek.
Every product has a certain amount of risk involved. I ve bought stuff that I auditioned only to have it fail days to years down the road. Its frustrating but I still would do it again, its part of being in Audio Engineering.
As far as it sounds...Im sure it sounds fine just like everything else in that price range. Matching the right pre to mic is just like gambling in Vegas, take what you have a give it a try..sometimes it works sometimes it won't. Its a futile argument to talk about Haynes personality, especially when its more or less about text on a computer screen. One thing you should remember is that engineering types for the most part are quirky and anti-social as a whole. Not alot of people skills. Musicians are quirky too, but in a different way than engineers or techies.

The origin of the thread is how much?

Which I can't seem to find an answer to?

Don't let the wood thing bother you...people said the same thing about the alloy faceplates when they first came out too.

SoMm
 
Holy shit Bruce... You're literally right around the corner from me!!! I'm talkin' about a mile!!!

Absolutely take me up on my offer!!! I've got a session about to start and then another at 6:30, but I'll email you late tonight!
 
Much obliged. I'm the bassist and Hammond keys for the Trial By Fire Band , a subwoofer designer, photographer, and computer whiz. But, I don't know squat about recording.

Will sweep floors or grovel appropriately for knowledge.

:D


I'm at 988-7551, on Skyridge directly opposite Kendrick. We're in the pharmaceutical mfg section of Orangevale

I have band rehearsal tonight (Thursday), but have days free except when I have clients.

OFGB and Musician's Reference

doc@compudox.com
 
jslator said:


(1) From what I've read on the Davisound website, the guy who runs it seems to me like a bit of a dick.
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Im not going to mention anything about the sound of the DavisSound pre amps because mine has not come in yet (should be here within the next 2 or 3 days) But in response to jslators comments... I found hayne to be nothing less than profesional and accomodating to me in my purchase of one of his pre amps. He even rushed my order and worked through a weekend to get my pre to me before a session I had scheduled (Something he doesnt like doing). He went way beyond the call of duty...

I think that until you have acctualy had dealings with davisSound making a comment like this is a little rash and unfounded.
 
You guys just don't get it. The obnoxious name-calling and condescencion is coming from Fiedler, A.K.A. "Dragon", plants whose job it is to try to start some flames cause that's the only reason people like me read these potentially informative but ultimately ridiculously pointless threads.
 
Its weird how those few quotes from Hayne Davis could bother you. You are really stretching it there.
I mean, have you ever read or thought about the things YOU say and how they make YOU come off?

Just what kind of vibes do you think people pick up from you?
 
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