Scott Baxendale
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Blind Man Drivin A Van. I’ve been struggling a little with the drums and guitars and intro on this one.
Here is a rough mix of a tune I’m working on. Mix Feedback appreciated! Just posted new mix.
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Serendipity Records
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Not enough snare, kick not punchy, too much cymbals?
What compression, if any, is on the overheads?
What compression, if any, is on the overheads?
Scott Baxendale
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I think I’m having some phasing issues with the drums, esp the overheads. There is some compression on the drums already. The cymbals on the intro are way too much for sure.
Scott Baxendale
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I just went back over the overheads and one track had the plugin so out of whack it was destroying the cymbals…lol. I’m sure I didn’t set it that way, but it was ridiculous. I’ll try a new mix tomorrow. I’m also using Slate trigger on the kick and snare, so I’ll mess with that too.
Scott Baxendale
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It’s still kinda of a mess. The guitar is supposed to be rude though…
Chili
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Dig the song. Not a fan of the panning choices. I'm old school and think vocals should be center. Sounds to me like you're mixing this song at loud volumes. Give it a good listen at low volume, too
I would like to hear more dynamics in the arrangement. Dial it back during the verses, kick it up in between. The noodling guitar on the left doesn't need to play all the time. Allow the energy to ebb and flow.
Yeah man.
I would like to hear more dynamics in the arrangement. Dial it back during the verses, kick it up in between. The noodling guitar on the left doesn't need to play all the time. Allow the energy to ebb and flow.
Yeah man.
dogooder
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Can't really comment on the mix on the puter speakers but if there are vocals I can barely hear them? I like the tune if that means anything lol.
TalismanRich
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The guitar on the left just obliterates everything for the first two minutes. It can be dialed back a bunch. The bass is difficult to follow, it's doesn't seem to give the song a good footing.
The song seems to be pretty good, but overall the sound is almost oppressive. I would have a hard time listening to it for any length of time.
The song seems to be pretty good, but overall the sound is almost oppressive. I would have a hard time listening to it for any length of time.
Scott Baxendale
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Yesterday, I checked an early rough mix before I started messing with the drums…..
Sometimes my attempts to produce the shit out of each track trying to make it sound like a record it sometimes ends up sounding like a big mess of shit.
Other times I’ll get a mix so perfect and a few months later I’ll listen to the rough mixes again and usually I can’t tell any difference between the final mix and the 5 or more previous rough mixes before it.
Just a line level mix…and it sounds so much better than this mix.
Sometimes my attempts to produce the shit out of each track trying to make it sound like a record it sometimes ends up sounding like a big mess of shit.
Other times I’ll get a mix so perfect and a few months later I’ll listen to the rough mixes again and usually I can’t tell any difference between the final mix and the 5 or more previous rough mixes before it.
Eric V
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Some good points made in the above posts, so I won't be an echo. I like the song by the way.
Scott Baxendale
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Yeah, I agree with the comments. Very appreciated. I’ll post a better mix soon.
Scott Baxendale
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I had the vocals coming back in a stereo bus as a stem. It is one track and a copy of it making a second track.
I had the vocals panned center in the mix you heard, however when I panned the left and right of the vocal bus both to center it brought it back where I intended it, dead center. I haven’t experienced that specific issue before and maybe it has something to do with the plugins?….or am I getting some unexpected comb filtering?
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RFR
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Don’t know how to describe it, but to me it sounds all squished together. Lots of stuff crammed into a small frequency band with very little dynamics. And it definitely sounds like a guitar player mixed it. Guitars really jump out at times.
Best I can describe it.
Tune has potential and I like the way it moves and the energy.
Best I can describe it.
Tune has potential and I like the way it moves and the energy.
Scott Baxendale
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That hurts……lol ?
Im much more concerned with what going on with the drums, than the guitar levels at the moment. That’s the easy part to work out.
Earlier tonight I undid all the plugins on the drums. The basic problem on this track is how these drums were recorded in the first place. Kik, snare, two over heads and a room mic.
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RFR
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Sorry man. But I’ve heard stuff of yours that sounded much better.
But whatever you can do to fix the drums would help for sure.
But hey, work in progress right?
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Serendipity Records
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That's all you need 95% of the time...
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RFR
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So you think my comments are hilarious?
You asked for feedback , gave you my honest feedback. So fine, I won’t comment.
You asked for feedback , gave you my honest feedback. So fine, I won’t comment.
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R D Smith
It's as good as it is, for as long as it lasts.
I like the song.
The two things I didn't like were the vocal panned right, I think it would have been better centered, and the guitar panned left was a little loud. The vocal level seemed a little low, but that could had been from the panning.
The two things I didn't like were the vocal panned right, I think it would have been better centered, and the guitar panned left was a little loud. The vocal level seemed a little low, but that could had been from the panning.
BTStudio
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Yah I second “ er third “ centering the vocal and hopefully it will pop out a bit more. I think that will take care of the guitar on the left also
Yah I second “ er third “ centering the vocal and hopefully it will pop out a bit more. I think that will take care of the guitar on the left also
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Scott Baxendale
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That’s the thing. The vocals are panned center. However they came in as a stereo bus with both sides of the bus panned L & R but the vocal tracks were panned center. I’m mixing through my console and the stem comes back with the pans far L and R but the tracks are centered in the DAW. When I reset the pans on my console to center it immediately made the vocals centered and louder. I have not experienced this issue working with stems before. I do have to tracks of the original vocal printed with different plugins on each one so I was wondering if I somehow did something to cause a weird comb filtering effect of phasing? I don’t really get it though. I may ditch the vocal bus and bring them back on separate tracks?
