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Hi all,

I hate reading long posts but if you can wade your way through this because I'm desperate for help

My situation is this, having converted a double uk garage with a room within a room setup three years later I still feel like I'm fighting my room. I have old aboslute 2's on my net machine in an untreated room and get perfectly acceptable mixes from that so I'm pretty sure it's not my ears.

Right stay with me, when I first constructed the studio I did the whole sitting on neoprene thing, 60kg/m2 rockwool 4inches thick in the walls, the whole 9 yards. Unfortunately I had to make a few concessions on the way which I think may have screwed it up completely. I wanted one skin of plasterboard (sheetrock?) on the inside and two on the outside and to cut a long story short it worked out the reverse of that.
Another concession was I ended up needing taller roof beams to support the span, I think it was 6x4 inch or 8 x 6 can't remember now but the upshot was I lost another couple of inches headroom.
I've ended up with a room that's 4.28m x 4.64m x2.02 (horrible dimensions I know). Despite numerous bass traps and proper foam treatment I always find myself with mixes which don't translate onto other systems at all. I have Genelec 1031's with the 15inch sub (I think it's the 7070)
I'm tearing my hair out here and short of moving don't know what else I can do!
One thing I did come up with was stripping the room and taking down the first two layers of plasterboard on the ceiling, keeping the rockwool in place and covering with cloth, now this won't do wonders for my isolation (right in the middle of lots of houses) but would the extra headroom and absorption be worth the effort?
As it is I'm sure I'm getting pretty heavy comb filtering with the ceiling being so low and I only have a foam backed carpet on the floor, so vertically I have hardly any treatment, this way I would increase that by loads and get wooden flooring (the classic setup)
Well thanks for sticking with it and let me know what you think, I REALLY need your help here!
 

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jesus....everybody has ass-kickin' studios and mine sucks!!!

Killer setup dude, I'm very envious...
 
A couple of things...

I see plywood straddling corners? You should be looking at broadband soft type absorbtion there - and thick.

Do you have anything on the rear wall behind the mix position?

I see nothing over your head for height mode control (around 100Hz in your case most likely you're getting a big boom that will make you cut that area) and for ceiling reflections.

Bryan
 
Hi all,

Thanks for the replies, yeah the panel traps have been pointed out as being next to useless a few times now lol I'm gutted, when I first looked into acoustic treatment these were THE thing to have/do.

I have a new plan now let me know what you think........
 
but I've got to make two more posts before I can link to the image
 
Panel type absorbers have their place - at the end of a dimension flat on a wall and in a larger space where you have the luxury.

The plan looks OK but I'd get that ceiling absorber out farther so it's fully over your head when you're in optimal listening position.

Bryan
 
Thanks, yeah optimal is tucked up to the mixer I imagine it'll extend a foot past that i think
 
I answer to your previous post, I actually get a big cancellation at 100hz, I've used a swept sine and pink noise to analyse using a Java Room testing application. Behind me is a door with a bookshelf and a couple of broadband diffusers (about 12" deep) the rear corners are shown in the pics. I really hope this makes the difference I need I'll keep you posted. Thanks again
 
Is that a triple output graphics card or is it some other means of display?

TM
 
I see nothing over your head for height mode control (around 100Hz in your case most likely you're getting a big boom that will make you cut that area) and for ceiling reflections.

Bryan

Hi, Bryan!

I yet don´t have in my room this "cloud" over my mix position... but I was thinking the purpose was only to stereo image and reflections.
It helps to tame the peaks (around 130 in my room) too ?Then, is a must have!

Tks

Ciro
 
The third monitor is for the mackie d8b.

And it has evened out my bass end dramatically along with giving my focus in the top end. I highly recommend this treatment
 
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