Harshness...

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i listened to a couple of your clips and i don't hear the harshness you describe.
hey kop - i listened to the braniac clip and i'm not hearing harshness (so i'm listening at work on a small pair of headphones...) so not realliy sure what it is that's annoying you...
lots of advice but I'm not sure how many have really listened...
 
Man, what a thread.

Flatwounds may work awesomely for some things, as do dead strings, but KoP is a metal guy as I recall so flatwoulds or dead strings are the last thing I'd recommend.

I think flatwounds on a guitar would be great if used sparingly in a mix to accentuate the "beef" of a guitar with roundwounds.

KOP- I use Elixirs, myself. They hold up forever and sound acceptably "new" for an absurdly long time. The set on my Universe has to be more than six months old right now, and are probably closer to a year. I wouldn't record anything important with them right now, but they're fine for demoing and practice. They're more expensive, but $10 a set for something that will sound fairly new for 6 months vs $4 for something you might get a week from strikes me as a no-brainer.

I looked for elixers on sweetwater but I couldn't find any thirteen gauge so I went with D'addario .13 nickel round wounds

I'll try to listen to some of your other stuff tonight. I'm wondering if it's just your speakers - if you're hearing "harsh" (and presumably EQing accordingly) and everyone else is hearing "distant," then I;m wondering if your speakers just have a ton of upper mids and treble?

That wouldn't surprise me. I'd like some V30's :):)

Aside from that, what IS the mic you're working with? A SM57 is definitely industry standard for heavy guitar, and can be had pretty cheap - I've seen them for $60 or so used. In the same ballpark, I've got a Nady RSM-4 ribbon that sounds shockingly good - I think I paid $70 for it, new. It's great on leads, and will definitely give you a darker, smoother signal.


To be honest, (and yes, I'm ashamed of this...) ... I'm using a Nady SP-1. :(
The best mic I owned was a shure PG-57 but for the longest time I didn't have a guitar so I decided to sell it. I didn't invest in mics at first because I used to be dead set on being completely direct and after not being blown away by modelors only then did I get into micing amps n such.
I regret not going with mics in the first place but I only got into mics after coming to HR. Before coming here the only source of info I had was google which was full of biased/BS articles and web pages about how modelors are so great. HR has taught me alot and I've learned that I really screwed up in the beginning of all this.
BUT, According to most people, it's not the gear you have, it's how you use it. Assuming I can get a good sound out of this POS setup, I could do wonders with a good or even mediocre setup.
 
Anyway you can post a wav file of one of your guitar tracks.

let us see if its your setup or perhaps its how your mixing/treating the track thats the issue.

Post something
 


http://www.mediafire.com/?3ai0wijag58689i



Two different links for the same file since everyone has mixed results when trying to download/stream things I put up.
No, no viruses, it's just that people complain that they don't like to download, they want it streamed. And the people that want to download it get a stream :confused:

F*ck it.

There's what I'm hearing.
I hate it.
 
To bad you didnt post a WAV file.

I cant really mix an mp3.

I wanted to try and see if I can mix the guitar track.

Need wav file though.
 
yeah breaking in your strings is common... but thats not really what i'm talking about :)

btw "breaking in" your strings shouldn't take more than an hour

how much do you play everyday?

do you stretch them after you put them on?

when is the last time you changed your strings?

are they're dents on the bottom of your strings from the frets?

(note: you will have to feel the bottom of your strings to check, primarly the plain non-wound strings)

Right now? My strings are crusty as fuck, but then I haven't done any recording in ages.

I don't really play everyday anymore, or even every week. Life got in the way of that.

I always change my strings before I start recording a bunch of stuff (I like to record 5 or 6 tunes at a time or don't bother at all). I tend to play my guitar for maybe 5 hours before recording. This usually equates to rehearsing the tricky bits. This is just enough to take that excess brightness out of the strings.

Yes, I stretch my strings when I put new ones on.

There probably are dents now, aswell as a lot of crud underneath, but like I say, I haven't recorded, or changed my strings in a while.

The point I'm making is that I prefer the sound of slightly dulled (and I mean slightly dulled, not totally dead) strings for recording a lot of high gain stuff. If I'm recording clean guitar or suchlike, I tend to do this right after changing and stretching the strings.

Basically, in the 18 years I've been playing guitar, 15 of which I have been using the same guitar, I have a preference and a system that works for me, and I very much like the sound of my guitar. People ask me what my dream guitar is, I tell them I already own it. I understand the concepts of good practice, and the benefits of fresh strings, but I like my guitar sound the way I do it, whether it's good practice or not. :)
 
I looked for elixers on sweetwater but I couldn't find any thirteen gauge so I went with D'addario .13 nickel round wounds



That wouldn't surprise me. I'd like some V30's :):)

13s? What do you tune to? Admittedly I use 11s in standard on my 6-strings, but those are a bit unusually heavy. Anyhow, Elixir offers a 12-68 baritone set, which might be worth a look:

http://www.juststrings.com/elixirbaritoneguitar.html

Also, I meant the speakers you mix on, not your guitar amp speakers. ;) If everyone is telling you you're getting the opposite of harsh ("distant") and you're hearing harshness, my first guess would be it's your playback system.

Have you listened to your work on any other speakers? And what speakers do you mix on?
 
Have you listened to your work on any other speakers? And what speakers do you mix on?

Yes, I've listened to it on other systems and I still get the same sound. I'm mixing on alesis M1 Active monitors... I know it's not the monitors cause I've mixed plenty of other songs on them and things sound fine. It has to be my mic/speaker/amp/guitar
 
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