Guitarport/Pod2/Ntracks

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Can i just record straight onto N Tracks with Guitarport folks?

Also,,,is there any way to records traight onto N Tracks using Pod2 hooked up to the pc?
And if so,, how?
Ta very much in advance!
 
hey, Pop. Think thru this with me...

When you plug one piece of equipment into another, you have to make sure the receiving equipment is getting the type of signal it expects to get. What type of signal depends on the piece of equipment. As a recording engerineer, it's your job to understand each piece of equipment and connect them properly.


Some very basic facts you should know:
- A typical microphone produces a 'mic-level' signal (there are 2 types, HiZ and LoZ; but they're both considered mic-level).
- A typical sound card accepts either a mic-level signal or a 'line-level' signal. The 2 are not compatible even though the plugs look identical. Also, you can't use both at once.
- Mic-level signals must be amplified to line-level in order to be used by recording software, outboard effects, mixers, J-Stations, Pod, PA amps, etc. (I'm trying to keep this simple, so if someone who knows better is reading this, bear with me.) This amplification is done with a mic preamp.

So, the simplest connection would be to plug a mic into the mic-in on the sound card. You can use a cheap PC mic to do this. (Of course, decent quality mics use a different physical connector than your typical sound card uses, so you have to use an adapter. But the conversion from mic-level to line-level still needs to be done.)

Anyway, that's the simplest connection but definately not the best. Most sound cards have terrible quality mic preamps, so people who are serious about recording buy better quality mic preamps (either stand alone units or mixers with preamps built in). Once the mic-level has been amplified to line-level, you can use the line-in of the sound card instead. This is a much better solution.


What's this got to do with a Guitarport? Nothing; except that the Line-In on the sound card is made to be used with equipment that produces a line-level signal. Does the Guitarport? I'm not familiar with the unit, but if you can plug a guitar in and then plug the Port into an amp (like a typical stompbox), it probably does. So yeah.. try it.

But the better solution is to buy a mixer, plug all your instruments into the mixer, and plug the mixer into the sound card. The mixer will handle all the conversions for you.



tj
 
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Hi TJ
i dunno what kind of sound card my pc has mate,
but i imagine its a shitey one!
i cant even manage to get it together to connect my Mini Disc player using line in,,so i can put vinyl and stuff onto the pc!It doesnt work when i plug in an SM67 to the pc to try and use it on Yhaoo chat or sumthin either. Strangely it did one time, and wont ever since! Grrrrr!
I WAS thinkin about some kind of a wee mixer to even use when tracking on the Mr8.That way i could have the 2 drum tracks goin whilst i played along .
Thanks a lot mate, i shall TRY to get my head around stuff!
Although my head is a lot thicker than most!
 
hey, Pop.
if you've not replaced the sound card, then yes, it'll be pretty crappy for recording music. But it IS possible to get a decent sound. Keep at it.

Plugging your midi-disk Line Out into the Line In of the sound card should work if your cabling is correct. Same with that SM67 if you plug it into the Mic In.

But a mixer would be a major improvement for you, bud.



tj
 
N TRACKS etc

Hey Teej
Sadly the mini disc or Sm 57 into the line in doesnt work for me!
Ive no idea why though.
so you think a wee 4 track mixer would be the thing for me then? For goin into the MR8 i mean?
wouldnt help me for pluggin into th pc though would it?
im SO thick i dont know!
cheers mate
 
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Monsterpop said:
Hey Teej
Sadly the mini disc or Sm 57 into the line in doesnt work for me!
Ive no idea why though.
so you think a wee 4 track mixer would be the thing for me then? For goin into the MR8 i mean?
wouldnt help me for pluggin into th pc though would it?
im SO thick i dont know!
cheers mate

Im pretty sure Teej was referring to using your pc with a mixer.

I've used a small 4 channel mixer plugged directly into the Line-In on my souncard (shitty stock card that came with my compaq computer) and it works GREAT.I recorded using N-tracks.I use a Fostex VF 16 as my primary tracking machine but I had some downtime with it a couple of weeks ago (hardrive went out) so I decided to experiment for the first time with PC recording.I was surprised at the quality of sound I was able to get recording through the 4 channel mixer into the line in on my pc.

Obviously,the better the sound card,the better the sound quality,but you CAN get some decent recordings with a stock souncard using a mixer as a pre-amp.

Get a hold of a mixer from one of your buddies if you can and give it a try.
 
N TRACKS etc

Hi Kramer
Thanks mate, i will see who has a mixer lyin around then!
Cheers for that. So its as simple as that? Straight into the mixer,,straight into the pc and onto N Tracks? Jeez!

Ta much
 
Re: N TRACKS etc

Monsterpop said:
Hi Kramer
Thanks mate, i will see who has a mixer lyin around then!
Cheers for that. So its as simple as that? Straight into the mixer,,straight into the pc and onto N Tracks? Jeez!
Would that wok for me tryin to record line in from my Mini Disc player to the pc too do you think?


Ta much

It's as simple as that.:)

Yes you can also go from the line out on your mini-disk into the line-in on your pc and record from it that way.I've been doing some archiving of old cassettes of my grandfathers old gospel radio show using the same method with a caseette boom box.It works great.record them to pc then get them burned onto a CD for safe keeping.
 
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