Guitar Abuse and Stupid trades

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What's the worst thing you've done to your guitar? Or bad decisions on guitar trades or sales.

Here's some of things I've done to some of my axes when I was younger.

--Modifications to an old Fender Lead II:
butchered the pickguard to be able to screw a DiMarzio Super Distortion humbucker straight to the body. Home made string retainers for the head stock made from phillips screws and pieces of metal. Threw a Kahler Trem onto it. Had a hardware store sand the paint off so I could throw my own paint job on it. Rather than paint one layer at a time and let it dry before painting another coat on...I decided to just paint a thick ass coat on there and just let it dry longer. The paint never really did dry...it ended up with the consistency of soft rubber, and you could leave your fingerprint on the surface if you pressed down hard enough. I think I ended up painting it at least three different colors (including flourescent green). The last thing I did to it was cut out magazine photographs, glue them to the body and spray a thin layer of lacquer over them. I think I traded it for a Hondo Strat.

--Trading a maple-top Paul Reed Smith bolt-on for a $600 Charvel.
Went to GIT summer school. I wasn't playing well at the time and figured a PRS short neck scale didn't fit my hands too well. So I went to a guitar store and asked them if I could trade in my PRS for a Charvel. Needless to say they were very accomadating.

---Modifications made to the $600 Charvel.
During a get together (alcohol involved) with other GIT students, we decide to scallop the fretboard of the higher frets of our axes and file down some frets. Needless to say that f'ed them up pretty bad.
Also, during a amphetamine binge with the band, I spend all night sanding the paint off of it with an orbital sander. Not having any paint, I decide to use food coloring to dye the bare wood of the guitar. So if you were sweating, the food coloring would come off onto your skin.

--I let my half-brother borrow my beloved Charvel Model 3. He kept it for around a year before he actually came up with a solution. He gave me a great G&L strat that he "claimed" was either owned or was on the same stage as Sammy Hagar for the Charvel. I ended up pawning it off in order to have some party money to go to a good friends wedding in Vegas. I was suppose to give the bride away, but being awake for two days straight I missed the wedding...but that's a whole 'nother story altogether ;)

--Back in high school (early 90's) The brother of the drummer in jazz band at school found and bought a 20 year old Firebird at a yard sale. Perfect condition except for the action. He sells it to me for $150. I sell it to a used music equipment store for $250 and a TAB book.

I keep my guitars in pretty good shape now though :)
 
when i was 16 i got ahold of a late 50's gretch country gentleman...didn't like the sound of it and roudered out the pickup holes and installed gibson himbuckers

when i was 17 i got a great deal on a 1966 strat that had a sunburst finish that only had one small chip in it....i decided it would be cool to have a natural woodgrain strat so i sanded the finish off. I thought some seymore duncan jeff beck quarter pound strat pickups would sound great so i replaced the original '66 pickups. a guy i was playing music with at the time wanted to try the '66 strat pickups in his fender mustang and i said "sure" (never got them back)
worst trade? i guess that would be trading my 1972 les paul custom for a boat motor
 
I've been butchering and making bad deals on sales and trades on guitars since 1956, I wouldn't know where to begin.
 
jimistone said:
when i was 16 i got ahold of a late 50's gretch country gentleman...didn't like the sound of it and roudered out the pickup holes and installed gibson himbuckers

GAH!
 
I don't think I've done anything stupid myself (although, if I have Bdgr will be along and remind me of it), but I once had a guy come into my tattoo shop and offer to swap me a mid 30s Gibson for the just the outline (no shading, no color) of a $75.00 tattoo. I said "you want me to do the whole outline! Well, okay."
 
Shag- we need to party. Just remind me not to loan you any of my guitars.
 
TexRoadkill said:
Shag- we need to party. Just remind me not to loan you any of my guitars.

Ohh, the evil I could do to an old gold-top and some assorted Black & Decker tools ;)
 
Oh The Things We Do...

I have a 1973 or 74 Yamaha FG-300 acoustic. I bought it from a shop in Manchester UK where it had been on display. There were a couple of minor dings in the top, but I got a good deal on it. Nice guitar.

Twenty five years later, I decided to try to remove the dings using a dish cloth soaked in water and a very hot iron. The theory is that the water is forced under heat and pressure into the wood where it swells the fibres and the ding magically disappears:)

Well, the dings partially disappeared, but then so did the varnish around the dings:(

Yikes! I had to take some mildly abrasive wire wool and give the whole of the top a brisk rub-down to attain the same "semi-gloss" finish all over.

There's a lesson in this thread kiddies.

Oh yes, and since then I've managed to add to the ding-count in the top, but I've left them alone this time.

BTW, if you do a Google search for Yamaha FG-300 you'll find it a mighty interesting guitar. There aren't too many acoustics that I know of that have fully adjustable bridges for height and intonation.

--
BluesMeister
 
The tale of two guitars

Story #1: unhappy ending.

When I was 15 I got my first "real" electric: an Electra Strat copy. White on white with a maple fretboard. It played OK but never had the ballsy tone I wanted (I'm a humbucker guy). Charvels were all the rage (1980) but I couldn't afford that, so I filled the pickup/control cavity with fiberglass and had a friend route it from the back for a single humbucker and volume (EVH style). We had a gig coming up and I didn't have time to paint it right so I just sprayed some grey primer on the front. Never did finish it and eventually it got cannibalized for parts.:(

Story #2: happy ending.

Back around '89 or so I bought an '84 Gibson Flying V that someone attempted (unsuccessfully) to make look like a '60's V ( they plastered a cheap pickguard on the front) and "re-wired"( the pickup leads had been cut short and they used regular hook up wire and cold solder to "repair" it). I bought another POS V for the Kahler bridge and installed it on the Gibson with new pickups/wiring sans pickguard.

One day not too long after I was sitting on the couch watching TV noodling away and my GF at the time (phsyco bitch) started bitching at me about everything and nothing (like she did from time to time) only this time I was not in the frame of mind to take it. I wanted to hit her but that was not an option (to me anyway) so I just threw the guitar over the coffee table onto the floor.:eek:

When I picked it up I could see the action was about 1" and upon closer inspection found that the neck had broken loose at the body joint. I cut the strings and simply pulled the neck out of the body. I looked at the joint and could see where there had been an air bubble about the size of a dime in the joint!

To condense the rest of the story the V was re-assembled, re-painted and is now my main guitar. it plays better now than before I broke it.:)
 
I bucthered the gretch (blonde finish by the way) and sanded down a rightious 3 tone sunburst finish off my '66 strat.....but... my old electra is still intact
:D
 
jimistone said:
I bucthered the gretch (blonde finish by the way) and sanded down a rightious 3 tone sunburst finish off my '66 strat.....but... my old electra is still intact
:D

/projectile vomits

/dry heaves

/dies

:)
 
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holy shit!!!...and people wonder why the price of vintage guitars is thru the roof..

whatever makes people happy, I suppose... just material objects.. It's kinda funny in a "critical" sort of way...

now...time to lighten up!!
 
you guys need to be saved from yourselves.. holy shit...

I've never butchered a guitar on purpose. When I was in Jr. High, my Dad had an old Gibson acoustic... 1970 or 1971.. very nice. He didnt' play, by 1983 it had maybe 3 hours on it... anywho, I got pissed off at my brother once and I slammed my door open and the guitar's bottom got smashed in pretty good. Pretty much unrepairable. I still used through high school and by then, the block abaloney fret markers were coming unglued and falling off, the neck binding was splintering and coming off... damn, I miss that guitar...

One of the mastering engineers I used to work with brought in a vintage strat to show us his handywork.... he scalloped the whole fucking neck! And he dug the frets out too deep so you couldn't even play an open chord without sounding out of tune. Barre chords were even worse. What an idiot..... and it's not like he could even shred to make scalloping worth while...
 
I had a chance to buy a blonde Les Paul Jr. It was in great condition, looked near mint. I'm not sure what year it was. At the time I had a Fender Strat and thought, I don't need another guitar. The guy was asking only $35.00. Many years later I'm still kicking myself for not buying that guitar.

The stupidest thing I almost did was refinishing my gold 65 Strat.
Thankfully, my friends talked me out of it.

Unfortunately, I did sell that guitar. Not a great decision...:(
 
Southwest Airlines

I think I could qualify as guilty of guitar abuse when I put my '82 Taylor 815 into baggage on a flight from Sacramento to Minneapolis/St. Paul. I got it out of the luggage carousel and, sure enough, buried under the dozen fragile stickers was a eight inch crack in the top. Made it unplayable until I poured another thee hundred bucks into it. I eventually took it to a luthier who did what he could. Now she just ain't as pretty as she used to be.

The worst part was I was there to play a wedding ceremony and I had to borrow a classical. Worked out but definitely not as well as it should have.
 
On a lighter note....

mixmkr said:
holy shit!!!...and people wonder why the price of vintage guitars is thru the roof..

whatever makes people happy, I suppose... just material objects.. It's kinda funny in a "critical" sort of way...

now...time to lighten up!!

I believe there are collector guitars and player guitars.

The collector guitars are the ones in pristine original condition because the players that picked 'em up thought: "This guitar sucks".

Then there are the player guitars that have been re-finished and re-fretted, perhaps many times, because everyone who played 'em thought:"Yeah, this is the one".

Of course there is the chance that someone bought a player and just never played it. Those are rare finds though. Despite what some people would like you to believe not all vintage guitars played/sounded great. Just a higher % compared to today due to better wood.
 
Re: On a lighter note....

M.Brane said:

Despite what some people would like you to believe not all vintage guitars played/sounded great. Just a higher % compared to today due to better wood.

of course not... let's see...Harmony comes to mind, many Hagstroms, Silvertones...ah...and Ibanez...the first "popular" copy company.... and...hhhmmm ..I wasn't even to keen on those clear Dan Armstong, Ampeg guitars either. on and on.....

But Strats and most Gibsons..... Country Gentlemans...or Tennessians... Even those shit little Melody makers... most were fine guitars. I'm unfortunately over 21:(
 
Re: Re: On a lighter note....

mixmkr said:
Ibanez...the first "popular" copy company....

I also have an Ibanez "lawsuit" V. I love it. Sounds best through my JCM800. Go figure.;)

Even those shit little Melody makers...

Had one of those for a while ( a '66). I reallymiss it.:(

I'm unfortunately over 21:(

I actually got carded a couple nights ago. I think the checkout girl was just trying to flirt though.:D
 
Re: Re: Re: On a lighter note....

M.Brane said:


I actually got carded a couple nights ago. I think the checkout girl was just trying to flirt though.:D

A few years back some 13 year girls were being flirty at a grocery store. They probably thought I was like 15 or sixteen.

I get carded all the time. People think I'm 18, then they give me that weird look when I tell them I'm almost 30 (what an evil number, ahhhh!!!!!!!). Bouncers always give me that quizzical look, where they look at my driver's license, then look up at me, then the driver's license, then back at me.
 
i did have a chance to put some collecter value back on the sanded down '66 strat a few years back.
after i did it natural woodgrain i didn't like it (nobody told me that fender used another wood for thier natural finishs). I was into outlaw country at the time...so...i painted it confederate gray, installed a rebel flag pickguard, and put some brass knobs on (it was alredy set up with gold hardware).

a few years later i found out that lynyrd skynyrd was putting the band back together and the man that was to be in charge of band security went to school with one of my best friends....needless to say we got backstage passes and hung out with the band when they came to town.

i took the '66 strat in all its "conferderate" glory to get it signed by the band. so we were hanging out after the show and just when i was going to leave the motel room and get the guitar out of the car, Ed King walked in the room and said "IF ANYONE ELSE ASKS ME TO SIGN SOMTHING IM GONNA SCREAM!!!" so...not wanting to be un-cool (especially since i was a guest) i backed off and didn't get my wallhanger.

now allen collins is dead...leon willinson is dead...artimus pile is out of the band... ed king is out of the band...and the mutual friend left skynyrd and is road manager for a major country act.

if a had it to do over again i would gotten the strat out of the car and told ed king "sign this old strat and give me a good long scream"

hindsight is 20/20
 
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