Solved grohl or disturbs drummer

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Who do you think is the better drummer?

  • Dave Grohl

    Votes: 119 93.0%

  • Disturbed's drummer

    Votes: 9 7.0%
  • Total voters
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who do you think is the better drummer dave grohl or the drummer from disturbed.
 
Grohl... The man is like a machine.. Perfect timing.. same steady hard hits everytime..
 
lol

I can't believe this is even a question. Im gonna have to go with grohl. The only thing I see disturbed's drummer being good at is playing lame wanna be metal beats. Gotta give him some credit though, hes almost as good as Lars on the NEW metallica hahaha.
 
Have you heard Grohl's drumming on the new Queens of the Stone Age album? I can hardly believe it's him. I have to admit, he's not the one-trick pony I used to think he was.
 
Just thought I would chime in here with some of my feelings on this subject.

On what basis is one drummer "better" than another? There are so many factors to choose from. Does just having good chops make one drummer "better" than the other guy?

When talking actual pro drummers, my feelings as to what makes one "better" (I prefer the term "different") than the other is playing what fits the song best. You can have the best, wildest chops in the world, but if it doesn't fit the context, I think it makes one "worse"...
 
charger said:
Have you heard Grohl's drumming on the new Queens of the Stone Age album? I can hardly believe it's him. I have to admit, he's not the one-trick pony I used to think he was.
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Yeah, I like the rack tom shit he does during the chorus of "no one knows"

Joe
 
I been after that QOTSA album for THREE MONTHS and havent gotten it yet.
I cant believe this is a question either. Grohl is a natural born rock music master. He is as good a singer and guitar player and bass player and writer as he is drummer. Amzing guy, been a fan since Nevermind. That dude in Disturbed isnt half the genius.
 
Dave is a rock god. Disturbed is a bunch of panties.

"On what basis is one drummer "better" than another? There are so many factors to choose from. Does just having good chops make one drummer "better" than the other guy? "

I think the guy was asking for opinions...not hard evidence.
 
ok ok ok

ok so maybe i was a little hard on the guy from disturbed. I managed to think up someone who he can outplay. That chick in the white stripes, now that is some terrible drumming.
 
VOXVENDOR said:
Grohl... The man is like a machine.. Perfect timing.. same steady hard hits everytime..
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You would probably think different after you heard the same tracks before the drums were all triggered to death. I don't think it would sound bad, but the difference between a drum mix when hit replacement hardware/software is used is pretty big. The sound of the queens of the stone age is very sample/triggered sounding. Not that its worse, it just doesn't sound like pure drums. I would guess 50% of major label/radio/MTV music released today doesn't even have a drummer ever enter the session. On the other 50% of songs 49% of them have drum tracks that have been triggered to some extent besides some jazz (real jazz, not that light jazz elevator music shite)
 
If they are triggering grohl chances are that they are triggering the guy in disturbed and he still sounds like krap, so what does that tell you lol?
 
kristian said:
You would probably think different after you heard the same tracks before the drums were all triggered to death. I don't think it would sound bad, but the difference between a drum mix when hit replacement hardware/software is used is pretty big. The sound of the queens of the stone age is very sample/triggered sounding. Not that its worse, it just doesn't sound like pure drums. I would guess 50% of major label/radio/MTV music released today doesn't even have a drummer ever enter the session. On the other 50% of songs 49% of them have drum tracks that have been triggered to some extent besides some jazz (real jazz, not that light jazz elevator music shite)
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LOL

I have played with Live drums, and Live Drums with Triggers, and I have heard people play with both scenarios's....

I can tell a good drummer based on the parts he creates and his timing... Triggers, would never affect that judgement....

Triggers just make the drums sound better. (If poorly recorded, or a different less natural sound is needed)
 
I just spent the day listening to that QOTSA album, and those drums sound natural and dry. They do not sound triggered or messed with to me. I really think he is THAT good, though, and its not all messed with too much. The dynamics and little touches are all there that "fix-its" always kill.
Anyway, they dont sound triggered to me at all. They just sound like a fantastic kit recorded by a fantastic drummer by a fantastic engineer. You dont hear that too often anymore, so it might seem a little unreal. I dunno.
Love the album so far, at least 7 songs on it.
 
I actually havent listened to the queens album yet, but I agree with tube... the drums did sound natural, and even with good sounding samples you can still usually tell triggers.... any way now to the point of my comment.

VOXVENDOR said:
LOL
I can tell a good drummer based on the parts he creates and his timing... Triggers, would never affect that judgement....
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I dont know why? Im not a drumer but as an engineer, on of the easiest ways to tell a bad drumer is inconsistent playing... and triggers can fix that.
 
I have to disagree. I've listened to the album quite a few times now, and I think that the toms are triggered on a couple of tracks. This has nothing to do with Grohl's playing, which is pretty amazing, but I am pretty dang sure that there is now way the toms on a few of those songs are actually recorded with the rest of the kit.
 
Nothing against his playing, i've only heard that one radio song but if you gave me $1000 in my hand and i had to guess if the drums are triggered to keep it i would say they are triggered. Great drummers have been triggered for years, its just like every other movement in recording. People move to digital, people use tubes for this and that, so on and so on. Right now we've been moving to more and more stable sound. Ghosting, hits that aren't the same volume, and things of that sort just aren't seen as "good" recordings anymore. triggered or even fake drums sell albums today. Its just the way things are going. I think grohl probably played the parts really well, but that isn't going to stop some engineer being told to trigger them not to.
 
... thats cool... like i said I havent listened to the whole album yet so i should'nt even be talking.
I have a question though... Is anyone else a little saddened (mabey thats not the word) by the use of triggers these days in popular rock music? I cant help but feel it kind of cheapens things... I dont know. comments?
 
I agree. Nothing more impressive that a great drummer on a great sounding kit right in front of you.
 
I've never even heard Disturbed but I gotta say that Dave Grohl is pretty much my hero right now. He was able to come out as a drummer, come out from behind the drums and be a singer/songwriter and then go back to his drumming with a stronger image than he started with. His career is one to be jelous of to say the least. He is doing exactly what I want to do, which in a nutshell is PERFORMING! No labels... drummer, singer etc.... He's just doing his own thing and doing it well. It's almost like he is "imageless"! The dude kicks ass IMO! He's solid drummer and a good singer as well.

RF
 
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