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[CyanJaguar]

its so simple.

Write great songs. nice hook, few cliches, nice verses, nice instrumentation.

Also, let the vocal harmonies be tight.

Use lots of your existing reverb. not long reverbs, but let there be some believable predelay.

VOILA

nobody will listen to the quality of your music, and everybody will think it is pro. For real. You could have done it on a 4 track, with an sm57, but if the song is hit quality and has reverb and tigtness, then "forget about it"


now,if someone will volunteer to teach ME how to do the above

 

[musicsdarkangel]

grr

don't diss my beautiful microphone!! its the microphone of pro's, err heh, right? =( *sigh*.

hmm, you know, the comment you made, i second it, any volenteers?

 

[Cyrokk]

right you are!!

I spend more time bitching about bad song writing and crappy talent or performance on well produced albums than complaining about less than perfect sound on well written and performed songs..

Give me a Diamond Head album and I'll headbang 'til the music stops..

Give me a Smashing Pumpkins album and you'll have to turn up the volume to hear it over my whining..

Cy

 

[sjoko2]

Have you heard destiny child's last CD? Jezus!!! horrible high noise

 

[Henri Devill]

I think that they are made to look at and not to listen to..LOL

 

[tubedude]

123

Introducing.. the new Steely Dan!!! And... it SUCKS... but... Roger Nichols got ahold of it. Polished turds, anyone?

 

[sjoko2]

Ah Tube - do I agree with that or what!!!

 

[mixmkr]

yeah...those guys are so into themselves, they almost turned themselves inside out. ....at least the VH1 show of them portrayed that.

 

[darrin_h2000]

So writing great songs and making flawless recordings is a bad thing, Am I in the right place dudes?

Sure you cant headbang to it but dont insult them for that, Sure Ive heard becker and fagan shut down interviewers (But mostly they asked stupid questions). But when all else stinks compared to you, you need to hold your nose up high.

Go ahead find a recording that more deserved the grammy than two against nature. Not just this year but any year. period

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

Two Against Nature still doesn't come close to AJA!

Bruce

 

[Cyrokk]

So writing great songs and making flawless recordings is a bad thing, Am I in the right place dudes?

The point is that the music takes priority over the recording. Obviously there are a few that are both well written and flawless (Floyd's Dark Side and Wish You Were Here come to mind).. But perfect recording does not make for perfect music.. On the other hand.. listening to a bootleg of a fantastic live performance can be just as enjoyable as a studio recording..

Originally posted by darrin_h2000 Sure you cant headbang to it but dont insult them for that

At minimum, I'll give them credit for making it in the music biz.. I don't however think it is wrong to express negative opinions about them.. they are in the public eye now.. criticism comes with the territory...

Originally posted by darrin_h2000 Go ahead find a recording that more deserved the grammy than two against nature. Not just this year but any year. period

I don't exactly know what a grammy means.. it certainly isn't based on anything outside mainstream genre.. Something tells me that if popular radio was eliminated then both the grammies and pop music would disappear.. If I'm wrong then I'll go buy some Jethro Tull albums for my heavy metal collection

 

[sjoko2]

The grammies are supposed to award creativity, popularity, sales, innovation, performance.
Did they score all of those? Naah it was pure politics.
I am not getting into "I hate" I love" etc, personal opinions discarded, just pure fact:
Eminem HAD won the vote, for creativity, popularity, sales, innovation and performance. The problem was, you had to add one more word - controversy. They chickened out, and controversy was swapped for polish. And how hard they battled to keep the lid on things when they failed to notice that one of the songs on their non-controversial choice was very sick indeed.