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Smokepole
New member
Very nice chops! I really enjoyed the whole thing. Mix sounded nice to me.
Joe
Joe
TexRoadkill
Audio Bum
That was pretty cool. Nice performances. Don't sweat Mixmkr too much. He would use an $800 mic than bathe the track in $100 reverb 
The violin recording could be better but it didn't sound bad by any means. One of life's great quandries is that you can't be in the arts and have cool toys. Five years after giving up professional engineering/performing I can finally afford a killer studio
The violin recording could be better but it didn't sound bad by any means. One of life's great quandries is that you can't be in the arts and have cool toys. Five years after giving up professional engineering/performing I can finally afford a killer studio
GT
New member
Absolutely awesome,
I now pronounce you guitar, and fiddle!!
Only nit, no wah on the fiddle hehehe.
This is too good!!
GT
I now pronounce you guitar, and fiddle!!
Only nit, no wah on the fiddle hehehe.
This is too good!!
GT
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twist
New member
Yeah this is better than ever David. You guys really made this shine. What is that swirling sound? I heard it in ther twice.
Twist
Twist
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M.Brane
New member
Good job!
Nice playing all-around.
I think the violin tone on this is kinda cool. Almost has a Mellotron sound to it.
Nice playing all-around.
I think the violin tone on this is kinda cool. Almost has a Mellotron sound to it.
DavidK
New member
Thanx for listening guys.
As I said before, this was more of an experiment with multi-tracking than a musical statement. I will save Jmarcombs stuff and re-record this when I can actually afford some equipment. My mic is not much different than a Radio shack mic.
There are glitches all over the place. With 60 violin parts, I was glad my computer didnt die
TEX
Sheppard "-im not a big r.e.m. fan,but the string work on their tunes is
high quality shit.did you arrange ,as well as play?tell me more about yer ties to the trans siberian orchestra.(these cats give me goose bumps)"
I did the arrangements for Shiny Happy people and Radio Song.
TSO is a great gig, I have been with them for 5 years. I got a big promotion this year, I am hiring the strings for the next tour ( November) which means I might actually be able to buy some gear.
Jeff
I am the little guy here. I learn much more from you than you can learn from me. I have made 55 commercial CDs, but I am enjoying this Brave new world of recording, and I will try to avoid the jerks like Mixsucker who put me down. Trust me, I just got home from an Opera rehearsal, and I can deal with fools like mix. I encourage critique, I am here to learn. When a Moron critiques my Avatar, he has lost all respect, not only from me, but from himself
I dont know if you are jealous or just stupid, but when you went so far as to attack my Avatar ( This is the MP3 clinic) I guess any respect I had for you ( which was a lot, I enjoyed your stuff) went out the window.
As I said before, this was more of an experiment with multi-tracking than a musical statement. I will save Jmarcombs stuff and re-record this when I can actually afford some equipment. My mic is not much different than a Radio shack mic.
There are glitches all over the place. With 60 violin parts, I was glad my computer didnt die
TEX
Damn Straight, although my problem is that my girlfriend isnt working, and is sick with no insurance. My money goes there.
Sheppard "-im not a big r.e.m. fan,but the string work on their tunes is
high quality shit.did you arrange ,as well as play?tell me more about yer ties to the trans siberian orchestra.(these cats give me goose bumps)"
I did the arrangements for Shiny Happy people and Radio Song.
TSO is a great gig, I have been with them for 5 years. I got a big promotion this year, I am hiring the strings for the next tour ( November) which means I might actually be able to buy some gear.
Jeff
I am the little guy here. I learn much more from you than you can learn from me. I have made 55 commercial CDs, but I am enjoying this Brave new world of recording, and I will try to avoid the jerks like Mixsucker who put me down. Trust me, I just got home from an Opera rehearsal, and I can deal with fools like mix. I encourage critique, I am here to learn. When a Moron critiques my Avatar, he has lost all respect, not only from me, but from himself
I dont know if you are jealous or just stupid, but when you went so far as to attack my Avatar ( This is the MP3 clinic) I guess any respect I had for you ( which was a lot, I enjoyed your stuff) went out the window.
chrisharris
King of Bling
I'm not taking sides or anything, but I'm on DavidK's side.
I don't give a shit if you think you ARE God's gift to the lowly homerecording "students" of the world Mix, all you did here was show me that you really are just a complete and total asshole.
Chris, that was unbelievable; I mean, I don't fault anybody for speaking their mind, but that was just an all out assault of insults and condescention...and then following it up with your "well wishes" for his girlfriend? Dude, FUCK YOU!!!
How's THAT for a musical critique, folks?
BTW - I remember the thread that started all of this, and DavidK's was way worse, lol...and I don't think being drunk is an excuse, but at least he had the class to own up to it.
YOU DIXMOKR, are wrong; and if you don't like it, FUCK YOU!!! ; and if you totally don't even care, FUCK YOU!!!
(Hey, did anybody notice what I did with his screen name? yeah...that was a buuuuuurn).
BYE
(apologies to the musicians in here...specifically, Dave and JMarcomb... I know Mix likes one of you - song sounds great. Carry on with your clinic now).
I don't give a shit if you think you ARE God's gift to the lowly homerecording "students" of the world Mix, all you did here was show me that you really are just a complete and total asshole.
Chris, that was unbelievable; I mean, I don't fault anybody for speaking their mind, but that was just an all out assault of insults and condescention...and then following it up with your "well wishes" for his girlfriend? Dude, FUCK YOU!!!
How's THAT for a musical critique, folks?
BTW - I remember the thread that started all of this, and DavidK's was way worse, lol...and I don't think being drunk is an excuse, but at least he had the class to own up to it.
YOU DIXMOKR, are wrong; and if you don't like it, FUCK YOU!!! ; and if you totally don't even care, FUCK YOU!!!
(Hey, did anybody notice what I did with his screen name? yeah...that was a buuuuuurn).
BYE
(apologies to the musicians in here...specifically, Dave and JMarcomb... I know Mix likes one of you - song sounds great. Carry on with your clinic now).
Roker1
New member
just wanted to let you know that I liked the tune Dave...
nice playing..
thanks for givin' us a listen
nice playing..
thanks for givin' us a listen
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homeuser
New member
I thought you couldn't post covers on NoWhereRadio.com?? I've got a few covers I'd love to have you guys listen to!!! So, CAN you put covers on NoWhereRadio!?!?
Don't tell me because there's no vocals, it's not a cover?!?!?!
Don't tell me because there's no vocals, it's not a cover?!?!?!
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Terriel
New member
Wow! I loved it!
That is one of my most favorite songs of all time. You guys did a beautiful job. If I could buy a Mr. Microphone and sound like that, i'd be thrilled!!
Langley
p.s. Dave, I sincerely hope your girlfriend gets well soon. Play her those tunes and she'll be soaring in no time.
That is one of my most favorite songs of all time. You guys did a beautiful job. If I could buy a Mr. Microphone and sound like that, i'd be thrilled!!
Langley
p.s. Dave, I sincerely hope your girlfriend gets well soon. Play her those tunes and she'll be soaring in no time.
B.SABBATH
New member
sounds a lot better!
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Kwality
Davidk
Though I actually own a TSO disc, I never took the time to listen to your stuff here.
I am very impressed with the sounds and flow of your fiddles. There really is nothing like the real thing and you have wonderful layers of them here. Really sits well with Jeff's arrangement.
I know you have added alot of stuff to many members things in the past and I look forward (Zappa) to hearing your stuff (Zappa) in the future.
jcmm
Though I actually own a TSO disc, I never took the time to listen to your stuff here.
I am very impressed with the sounds and flow of your fiddles. There really is nothing like the real thing and you have wonderful layers of them here. Really sits well with Jeff's arrangement.
I know you have added alot of stuff to many members things in the past and I look forward (Zappa) to hearing your stuff (Zappa) in the future.
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jake-owa
Banned
I would have liked to hear a slower intro or a tempo increase from the begining. I think it seems a bit fast in places...almost rushed.
I like the rendition overall and I would add it into a mellow mp3 mix anyday.
Great playing and I really don't think the recording quality is bad, especially for a cheap gear.
I think someones heart is covering his ears.
God job guys!
I like the rendition overall and I would add it into a mellow mp3 mix anyday.
Great playing and I really don't think the recording quality is bad, especially for a cheap gear.
I think someones heart is covering his ears.
God job guys!
mixmkr
we don't need rest!!
you know...I'm not here to fight, but only for the reasons everyone else is here... to listen to homemade music and offer opinions. I don't claim to be the god of home recording (which Chris H...you seem to think I've put myself on that pedistal). There are many here that I think kick some serious booty(musically), that I would like to emulate their ideas in some of my stuff. So.. there is PLENTY of musical ideas for me to learn. Plus, I think most all would agree, I am far from being the best with my submissions to the clinic. But, I am confident enough in my abilities that it isn't pure shit either. I know my weak points (like I don't even sing...eh? ), writing...and struggling to sound contemporary.
However, when I get jabbed, I have no hesitation in standing my ground. I felt in DavidK's first post, he was specifically targeting me...since he did [in maybe a sarcastic way?] mention my name specifically..Noting I would be quick to point out his faults. Had he not targeted me specifically, I probably would have just listened to his post, and decided whether to comment or not...and probably most certainly would have let personal crap slide by... I mean enough is enough...huh??..right??. I have no personal fights with him, nor really want any. However, I don't feel like being a pushover either. Harris...it seems the chill pill may be in order for you .. I have no bitch with you either, but you are going to tell me "FUCK YOU" all over your post, what do you want me to do? If apologies are needed to you, consider them given...but I have no understanding why they would be. If apologies are needed to DavidK, again I will offer them, but in all honesty, if I get jabbed, I will admit that I will poke back. DavidK, I am sorry.
Now...take the avatar comments I said for what they are. If you think I need to stoop to trying to degrade someone over the internet by using their avatar, interpret that as [extemely]little guns, and more so, as a joke. If you want HELL, I can give hell,(and not goof on someones silly avatar) but I prefer not. I mean shit...look at my silly avatars. Goofy pictures of my dogs. Can you get much sillier than that? I certainly can get a lot more specific if needed, and nail someones ass to the floor with specific sonic faults,(if they are there, of course) but that is not what we all want ....right?...the rude blasting. Just honest replies instead. And NO...I am no god of recording (I repeat that again), but I feel I know enough to know what I am talking about, and can play guitar better than your average smuck who has been only playing a few short years.
So...I say, let's move on...
and actually DavidK, I REALLY was wondering why you really didn't have the $$$ to afford a couple little items. I'd think a couple sessions would allow at least a little fun money....but then again, I am not in your shoes. If you really can't afford a mic, let me know and I'll see what I can dig up for you around here and send it your way. I am lucky enough that my music has paid for my gear and more, and I have more than I need to make good music. My needed element is the knowledge...not the tools(you can buy) at this point for me.
Also...with all your upcoming sessions, might I suggest that you pay close attention to the pros who are hitting the little red buttons, and not necessarily get the "lions share" of tips from the "lil guys" around here. Not that they aren't helpful, but I'd think your learning curve in that environment would be much steeper. Kinda like the theory of surrounding yourself with people better than you, to improve. But, you are probably already doing that, or more absorbed in your performance. Just a thought.
If you guys want me to cease with the reviews, and my honest, to the point remarks...say the word. If someone doesn't like my truthfullness when I say they need to improve on "X", when we all know it is the thing to do, but they instead try to drill me a new asshole, what do you want me to do then? Let it slide? I can do that too.. But my human nature makes me lurch back..probably like most here. So apologies in advance if I do. So...maybe I'll just let my dog(s) bite you instead!
However, when I get jabbed, I have no hesitation in standing my ground. I felt in DavidK's first post, he was specifically targeting me...since he did [in maybe a sarcastic way?] mention my name specifically..Noting I would be quick to point out his faults. Had he not targeted me specifically, I probably would have just listened to his post, and decided whether to comment or not...and probably most certainly would have let personal crap slide by... I mean enough is enough...huh??..right??. I have no personal fights with him, nor really want any. However, I don't feel like being a pushover either. Harris...it seems the chill pill may be in order for you .. I have no bitch with you either, but you are going to tell me "FUCK YOU" all over your post, what do you want me to do? If apologies are needed to you, consider them given...but I have no understanding why they would be. If apologies are needed to DavidK, again I will offer them, but in all honesty, if I get jabbed, I will admit that I will poke back. DavidK, I am sorry.
Now...take the avatar comments I said for what they are. If you think I need to stoop to trying to degrade someone over the internet by using their avatar, interpret that as [extemely]little guns, and more so, as a joke. If you want HELL, I can give hell,(and not goof on someones silly avatar) but I prefer not. I mean shit...look at my silly avatars. Goofy pictures of my dogs. Can you get much sillier than that? I certainly can get a lot more specific if needed, and nail someones ass to the floor with specific sonic faults,(if they are there, of course) but that is not what we all want ....right?...the rude blasting. Just honest replies instead. And NO...I am no god of recording (I repeat that again), but I feel I know enough to know what I am talking about, and can play guitar better than your average smuck who has been only playing a few short years.
So...I say, let's move on...
and actually DavidK, I REALLY was wondering why you really didn't have the $$$ to afford a couple little items. I'd think a couple sessions would allow at least a little fun money....but then again, I am not in your shoes. If you really can't afford a mic, let me know and I'll see what I can dig up for you around here and send it your way. I am lucky enough that my music has paid for my gear and more, and I have more than I need to make good music. My needed element is the knowledge...not the tools(you can buy) at this point for me.
Also...with all your upcoming sessions, might I suggest that you pay close attention to the pros who are hitting the little red buttons, and not necessarily get the "lions share" of tips from the "lil guys" around here. Not that they aren't helpful, but I'd think your learning curve in that environment would be much steeper. Kinda like the theory of surrounding yourself with people better than you, to improve. But, you are probably already doing that, or more absorbed in your performance. Just a thought.
If you guys want me to cease with the reviews, and my honest, to the point remarks...say the word. If someone doesn't like my truthfullness when I say they need to improve on "X", when we all know it is the thing to do, but they instead try to drill me a new asshole, what do you want me to do then? Let it slide? I can do that too.. But my human nature makes me lurch back..probably like most here. So apologies in advance if I do. So...maybe I'll just let my dog(s) bite you instead!
mixmkr
we don't need rest!!
oh...and anyway about the song.
I was never really a big Kansas fan, and this being one of their songs that I felt got major overplay on the radio rotation (kinda like a 'Stairway to Heaven'). So I am kinda tired of the tune from that standpoint. As I've said before, Jmarcoumbs rendition is great and he has/gets a great sound and added some nice ditties. I think the mix between Davidk and marcoumb is MUCH better this time around. The fiddles are loud and soft where appropriate, wereas in the last version, there also seemed to be some volume problems. The fiddles do sound very unnatural and synthetic sounding. I would suspect that to come from all the doubling and the combing effect happening when combining the string parts. Actually, the mic'ing doesn't seem to be the main culprit here. Just lots of parts that are hard to sonically blend together...especially when they are all recorded the same (same mic, pre, settings, etc). It has the effect of bringing out the bad aspects of a mic (or pre..whatever) because it is "amplified" by repeated and stacked usage. I thought the parts DavidK added were appropriate and fit well. Nothing too exciting that strayed from the original that much, but like I said, fit well, and the voicings led well from one to another. I'da take a little more Jean LuPonty (sp??) type stuff, with some added flairs to match Jeff's embellishments.
Nice stuff, but hard for me not to compare it to the original. Starts to "lean" towards that 'elevator' stuff...but hey...I suppose everyone has to get old sometime!!!
I was never really a big Kansas fan, and this being one of their songs that I felt got major overplay on the radio rotation (kinda like a 'Stairway to Heaven'). So I am kinda tired of the tune from that standpoint. As I've said before, Jmarcoumbs rendition is great and he has/gets a great sound and added some nice ditties. I think the mix between Davidk and marcoumb is MUCH better this time around. The fiddles are loud and soft where appropriate, wereas in the last version, there also seemed to be some volume problems. The fiddles do sound very unnatural and synthetic sounding. I would suspect that to come from all the doubling and the combing effect happening when combining the string parts. Actually, the mic'ing doesn't seem to be the main culprit here. Just lots of parts that are hard to sonically blend together...especially when they are all recorded the same (same mic, pre, settings, etc). It has the effect of bringing out the bad aspects of a mic (or pre..whatever) because it is "amplified" by repeated and stacked usage. I thought the parts DavidK added were appropriate and fit well. Nothing too exciting that strayed from the original that much, but like I said, fit well, and the voicings led well from one to another. I'da take a little more Jean LuPonty (sp??) type stuff, with some added flairs to match Jeff's embellishments.
Nice stuff, but hard for me not to compare it to the original. Starts to "lean" towards that 'elevator' stuff...but hey...I suppose everyone has to get old sometime!!!
DavidK
New member
Done , Dude. I respect this , very coolmixmkr said:
Girlfriend!!! Still sick.
I would love it. I am actually quite a fiddler, and I know my recordings stink. I am seriously doing this stuff with Mr. Microphone, I kid you not.
Nope, it wouldnt be the same without you here! You can drill me as many assholes as you wish, You are nothing compared to an 81-year old opera conductor that I would love to bitch-slap and give a Cleveland Steamer to.
Thank you mix, you have proven yourself a gentleman and a scholar. I am trying to buy a pod, but my girlfriend is too sick. When she gets well, I can finally play my electric violin, and I wont have to worry about mics, WooHoo.
Cheers, Dave
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Erland
New member
perfecto
really georgeous. I remember I was going to try and sing on this, I couldn`t sing high enough though. This really is nice, cheers chaps.
Erland
really georgeous. I remember I was going to try and sing on this, I couldn`t sing high enough though. This really is nice, cheers chaps.
Erland
Son of Mixerman
Mix Junior
I haven't been able to listen because of having to rebuild my PC, but as soon as I can I will listen.
If I may put the bug in people ear here for a moment.
There are alot of people here who have a ton of equipment who are not doing this for a business who would probably benefit from offering some quality recording time to DavidK.
I have in a few cases opened my doors to people who really need a break because of their financial situations. If I lived closer to DavidK or he closer to me he would have an open invitation to lay down some ideas or record some songs if needed. My mother-in law's quartet is going to come in to record as soon as she heal from a surgury induced staph infection. Anyone close enough to help DavidK out?
How about buying him a $49 MXL603S? Anyone?
Peace,
SoMm
If I may put the bug in people ear here for a moment.
There are alot of people here who have a ton of equipment who are not doing this for a business who would probably benefit from offering some quality recording time to DavidK.
I have in a few cases opened my doors to people who really need a break because of their financial situations. If I lived closer to DavidK or he closer to me he would have an open invitation to lay down some ideas or record some songs if needed. My mother-in law's quartet is going to come in to record as soon as she heal from a surgury induced staph infection. Anyone close enough to help DavidK out?
How about buying him a $49 MXL603S? Anyone?
Peace,
SoMm
Sonixx
New member
mere excellence...
scottboyher
New member
VERY WELL DONE! Great sound and very talented fingers I must say! No complaints.