floyd rose tremolo?

[6gun]

the other thing to consider is if you change tunings a lot. a tremelo (especially a floating bridge) can be a pain in the ass for that. but you'll sure learn how to do a fast pro setup on a guitar after time. if you're going to do even one dive bomb the floyd is still your best friend, imo.

 

[six]

the truth: you can do anything on a FR-guitar that you can do on a non-FR but NOT vice versa. ok, changing tunings or even string gauges on a regular basis sure is a pain in the ass - but who does this anyway?

 

[6gun]

changing tunings or even string gauges on a regular basis sure is a pain in the ass - but who does this anyway?

me.

 

[outlawtorn86]

to all those who say floyd rose is a pain in the ass, etc blah blah

i was just like that, untill i bought a REAL US made floyd rose tremolo... sure it was a hefty 170 bucks and 50 bucks installation, but fuck, well worth the money. see i bought a jackson DXMG with one of those shitty jackson made floyds... kept flying out of tune, took hours to restring... after i got this USA made installed, i change strings in a quickie, and yes its actually true, u can drag it down stairs, wipe ur ass with it, throw it into walls, and it will always stay in tune (just watch binge n purge, as kirk hammett pulls it off, ahahaha) and yeah it gives u about a 4 step bend up which sounds wicked if u play heavy metal leads... if ur a punk band, u have no use for this floyd rose. but then again , if ur in a punk band, the world has no use for you. LOL

rock on guys

 

[struberg]

to my experience, the strongest impact on the sound of an electric guitar of the wood parts comes from the neck, and not so much from the body!

You can easily play a guitar with a completely ruined body, but once there is a little crack in the neck that prohibits the whole neck from vibrating, then the whole sound is dead dead dead...

So i think, the floyd rose kind trems with 2 point mounting doesn't have such a bad impact on the sound as mentioned above.

 

[7evin]

to my experience, the strongest impact on the sound of an electric guitar of the wood parts comes from the neck, and not so much from the body!

You can easily play a guitar with a completely ruined body, but once there is a little crack in the neck that prohibits the whole neck from vibrating, then the whole sound is dead dead dead...

So i think, the floyd rose kind trems with 2 point mounting doesn't have such a bad impact on the sound as mentioned above.

YES!!!! Thank you! And for changing strings with a floyd, all you do is cut the bullet end and stick it in, clamp it. Wind the string up and lock the nut and your done! HARD? Pain in the ass? Hours to string? Must be some shitty Floyd's out there.. IMO

 

[RattleCat]

I thought i would mention my fav setup. I like the old kramers with body mounted floyd rose. Usually I pick up a cheap body...load it with pickups..and buy a neck. The different older mounting design of the floyd rose gives you almost the best of both worlds. You can do dive whammies but you cant pull up on the bar because the tail rests against the body. If you break a string, its no sweat. You can bend to your hearts content without worrying about the the pitch of the other strings as well, and you still have a locking nut system to stay in tune. You can still get them built this way from Fender but only as a custom shop....which is over rated IMHO.

My $.02

 

[The Generator]

And lets not forget that the floyd is not only connected at the
2 bridge posts, but the springs that connect the floyd to the
body also are screwed into the body, making another point
of contact. I have never heard of a floyd that gave a guitar the
weak sustain syndrome. Floyds have ruled the world of
whammies for quite a long time for a reason... unlike others
that have faded away... like a kahler... cough-cough

 

[Light]

to all those who say floyd rose is a pain in the ass, etc blah blah

i was just like that, untill i bought a REAL US made floyd rose tremolo... sure it was a hefty 170 bucks and 50 bucks installation, but fuck, well worth the money.

Sorry, but that is crap. I have restrung thousands of guitars, and though a good quality Floyd or Floyd licensed (such as the Schaller version, which is much better machined than the original Floyds, though harder to intonate) will make things easier, it still sucks. I can restring and tune a Les Paul in about five minutes, a hardtail Strat or Tele in about seven minutes, and a Strat with a trem in about ten minutes. It takes almost twenty to restring a Floyd Rose. That is a pain in the ass from my perspective.

It is even worse when you are setting them up. On a Strat, Tele, or Les Paul, a setup takes a little over an hour, maybe an hour and a half. Set up on a Floyd will take almost two hours, minimum. And that is if the nut is already right. If we have to do anything to the nut, it will be even longer. And we charge by the hour, so you are paying for the extra time.

Floyd style trems are great if you are going to use it a lot. For most people, they just are not necessary. I have a guitar with a Floyd, and to be honest, I never use it. It just is not useful for me.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi

 

[Light]

to my experience, the strongest impact on the sound of an electric guitar of the wood parts comes from the neck, and not so much from the body!

You can easily play a guitar with a completely ruined body, but once there is a little crack in the neck that prohibits the whole neck from vibrating, then the whole sound is dead dead dead...

So i think, the floyd rose kind trems with 2 point mounting doesn't have such a bad impact on the sound as mentioned above.

It all matters. I am just finishing up a guitar which is exactly like the last one I made, except the body wings (it is a neck through guitar) are ash instead of mahogany. It is a very different sound, just from that one change.

Any change makes a difference, but the core of the sound comes from the wood, both of the body, the neck, and the fingerboard. There is not a guitar builder in the world who would say otherwise. For instance, a maple neck Les Paul (such as the 70's Deluxes) is going to be brighter than a mahogany neck guitar. But the same is true with the body, only more so. It is a larger piece of wood, and it has a correspondingly bigger effect.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi

 

[grinder]

Sorry, but that is crap. I have restrung thousands of guitars, and though a good quality Floyd or Floyd licensed (such as the Schaller version, which is much better machined than the original Floyds, though harder to intonate) will make things easier, it still sucks. I can restring and tune a Les Paul in about five minutes, a hardtail Strat or Tele in about seven minutes, and a Strat with a trem in about ten minutes. It takes almost twenty to restring a Floyd Rose. That is a pain in the ass from my perspective.

It is even worse when you are setting them up. On a Strat, Tele, or Les Paul, a setup takes a little over an hour, maybe an hour and a half. Set up on a Floyd will take almost two hours, minimum. And that is if the nut is already right. If we have to do anything to the nut, it will be even longer. And we charge by the hour, so you are paying for the extra time.

Floyd style trems are great if you are going to use it a lot. For most people, they just are not necessary. I have a guitar with a Floyd, and to be honest, I never use it. It just is not useful for me.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi

It takes 10 extra minutes to change strings with a Floyd, so what?I change my strings once a week and don't find that the 10 extra minutes that big a deal since the trade off is a whammy bar I can beat the shit out of and it stays in tune.

 

[CMEZ]

I had a strat with a Floyd Rose once.






Once.




Chris

 

[Light]

It takes 10 extra minutes to change strings with a Floyd, so what?I change my strings once a week and don't find that the 10 extra minutes that big a deal since the trade off is a whammy bar I can beat the shit out of and it stays in tune.

It takes ME ten extra minutes compared to other trems, during which time I could be working on something important. It also take could be looked at as twice as long as other trems, or four times as long as a Les Paul. That is also what it takes me, and I would bet it takes you longer, because I do it a lot more often (probably 70-100 times a year for Floyds, and at least 400 guitars a year). If you need it, then it is worth it. I don't think it is worth it for most people, and certainly not for me.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi

 

[grinder]

That is also what it takes me, and I would bet it takes you longer, because I do it a lot more often (probably 70-100 times a year for Floyds, and at least 400 guitars a year).

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"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi

I can see where that would get old, Floyd set ups are a bit of a pain.A properly set up and maintained Floyd is hard to beat, though, if you're into that kind of thing.String change usually takes me 45 minutes, including cleaning the fret board, lubricating the whammy with graphite and spraying the pots and switches.

 

[musicsdarkangel]

I hate Floyd's