Ever made a mix that sounded so good you thought it didnt need to be mastered?

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So basically what you're saying is

Blue Bear or Chris M or both of you

You arent a ME

ok


SO what the hell was the point of all this other stuff you were mentioning?
This is like two consumers arguing over a car dealership except one guy (YOU) is acting like he sells the cars... If you just have a recording studio..then what are you telling me? About the people that take your money to make your tracks sound decent?
Ok so maybe i should be speaking with them... Ya think????

Im willing to listen to an engineer's opinion...especially one with a good track record

but so you are saying that you are an engineer but you dont do the mastering? Or are you a producer that owns a recording studio and uses this in conjunction with his production deals?

And for your info

My company is not publicly traded but I made it a INC because of the assets issue.

In terms of being the primary owner of the company and having the most holdings in it that would be yours truly.
My company employs over 20 people as well as the 8 acts that are under recording contract.
No i dont own an escalade haha american cars still suck just because its a cadillac doesnt mean its any better than the other bunk gmc puts out

As for Epic...i dont have enough time to explain my life story to. I demoed to GFK he liked my shit and put me under his tutelage.
We've recorded together, while he was still at Epic and I was putting together my demo album to get to the A+Rs at EPIC, but i also helped produce some of the material on his 2nd album as well as use his assistance on my album

I didnt get a chance to finish what i started though seeing as how Epic gave people like myself and GFK the middle finger

As for the RZA...what the fuck makes you think all his beats are samples?
Have you been tricked by the sound of the drum?
Enter the 36 wasnt all sampled first and foremost..

Tical was full of synths ala ASR10
Raekwons album Only Built For Cuban Linx did have samples but also did have SYNTHS all over the album ...

Wu Tang Forever...almost NO samples

Bobby Digital the same

Me I prefer to use all keyboards because they give you less headaches than samples do especially when it comes to $$$

i dont know what this shit is about it sounds like a casio
I wouldnt know since i cant download what you're hearing.

If casios sounded like Roland jv 2080s then the world would be a better place.

However i think you should keep sippin homey

I really appreciate this attitude im seeing the minute that someone mentions hip hop

Sounds kind of dumb if you ask me

Yes there are alot of labels out there that are far from for real or ready to even sell indie material

but you act like on the other hand the rock and roll indie scene is full of professionally managed and incredibly talented rock stars who are just being shitted on by "the man."

Come on rock and roll was out before hip hop so its a much more established and much-more-room for sheisters genre.

Ive met shit loads of musicians who got FUCKED over by rock and roll labels mom and pop level and up...Most of em end up doing session work for me at Crumbson 12 Beta.

But im glad you had your laughs...So far the more time i let you guys have you do more to discredit yourself.

Bear i mean come on dude at least lie so it looks like you run a mastering house....

IM DONT OWN A MASTERING HOUSE I RUN A RECORDING STUDIO

LEAVE BLUE BEAR STUDIOS ALONE!!! WAH WAH

What a little bitch you act like i gave your site blaster virus or something its funny how words can be more powerful than an actual pimp slap or two.

Regardless im giving this forum a rest its been more of a stress reliever than anything between sessions.

Quick anecdote about why im not a big ME or Engineer fan in general:

This guy who was a certified Full Sail engineer also made beats or whatever...he goes to this ok recording studio they charge by the hour and he masters ??? or whatever his stuff there and then charges people for his beats.. the guy who owns the facility gives him hard drive space to use....

However mister engineer never burns down his stems
yes he just burns down 2 track wavs to cdr

so hes cool with it im wondering wtf the whole entire time
and guess what happens the guy with the studio has other clients and they need hard drive space so he goes and erases the engineer/producers stems and keeps the 2 track wavs

hmm which means that he cant remix them just re master whatever he has or take out the time and money to re record them

He thought it was fucked up that the facility owner did that ...
I thought that it was common sense that you back up everything.
ESPECIALLY ON COMPUTERS/PROTOOLS

How could Full Sail have over looked this???
How did i know this and i never gave them 60,000 dollars for engineer certification or certified audio technician whatever the fuck they give people

ive just met TOO many engineers that dont have ANY computer savvy...SO in reality they are THE last step that i can even consider going to because they only deal with tape machines like the Otari stuff.....

or i can fuks with Bob pay him his money and we both can leave happy

oh and as for Bob not wanting to work with me...
why would he not want to??

Hes not gonna deal with any of my personality issues because whatever he asks me for hes gonna get(except no stupidness like sexual favors haha)....Why because he's friggin Bob Clearmountain.

I mean if he wants me to buy new gear thats a whole nother story but im even willing to come in with my shit and do the recording there which he says HE DOES DO....you know but he just has a mastering house he has nothing there that actually does REAL recording like the Blue Balled Bear does


anyways you want a Wu-Tang name?

How bout Blue Eyed Devil?

Thats a hot ass mcee name

it falls right into place with the 5 percenter ideaology too...

ill even buy your cd if you come out with a album titled that shit

Blue Bear presents straight outta oklahoma BLUE EYED DEVIL

yo i will truly bump that cd in the projects as loud as my stereo can go and i will dodge some bullets to do it

Ok ok

Peace be upon you in this Grand Design

Illa
 
Re: So basically what you're saying is

illacov said:
american cars still suck



:eek:


So you are into activism and you don't like American ( gotta capitalize it...show some respect :mad: ) cars?


That only means one of two things. Either you are a dirt hippy that takes it in the yahoo, or you are a commie.
 
Re: So basically what you're saying is

illacov said:
Blue Bear or Chris M or both of you

You arent a ME

ok


SO what the hell was the point of all this other stuff you were mentioning?
This is like two consumers arguing over a car dealership except one guy (YOU) is acting like he sells the cars... If you just have a recording studio..then what are you telling me? About the people that take your money to make your tracks sound decent?
Ok so maybe i should be speaking with them... Ya think????

Im willing to listen to an engineer's opinion...especially one with a good track record

but so you are saying that you are an engineer but you dont do the mastering? Or are you a producer that owns a recording studio and uses this in conjunction with his production deals?

And for your info

My company is not publicly traded but I made it a INC because of the assets issue.

In terms of being the primary owner of the company and having the most holdings in it that would be yours truly.
My company employs over 20 people as well as the 8 acts that are under recording contract.
No i dont own an escalade haha american cars still suck just because its a cadillac doesnt mean its any better than the other bunk gmc puts out

As for Epic...i dont have enough time to explain my life story to. I demoed to GFK he liked my shit and put me under his tutelage.
We've recorded together, while he was still at Epic and I was putting together my demo album to get to the A+Rs at EPIC, but i also helped produce some of the material on his 2nd album as well as use his assistance on my album

I didnt get a chance to finish what i started though seeing as how Epic gave people like myself and GFK the middle finger

As for the RZA...what the fuck makes you think all his beats are samples?
Have you been tricked by the sound of the drum?
Enter the 36 wasnt all sampled first and foremost..

Tical was full of synths ala ASR10
Raekwons album Only Built For Cuban Linx did have samples but also did have SYNTHS all over the album ...

Wu Tang Forever...almost NO samples

Bobby Digital the same

Me I prefer to use all keyboards because they give you less headaches than samples do especially when it comes to $$$

i dont know what this shit is about it sounds like a casio
I wouldnt know since i cant download what you're hearing.

If casios sounded like Roland jv 2080s then the world would be a better place.

However i think you should keep sippin homey

I really appreciate this attitude im seeing the minute that someone mentions hip hop

Sounds kind of dumb if you ask me

Yes there are alot of labels out there that are far from for real or ready to even sell indie material

but you act like on the other hand the rock and roll indie scene is full of professionally managed and incredibly talented rock stars who are just being shitted on by "the man."

Come on rock and roll was out before hip hop so its a much more established and much-more-room for sheisters genre.

Ive met shit loads of musicians who got FUCKED over by rock and roll labels mom and pop level and up...Most of em end up doing session work for me at Crumbson 12 Beta.

But im glad you had your laughs...So far the more time i let you guys have you do more to discredit yourself.

Bear i mean come on dude at least lie so it looks like you run a mastering house....

IM DONT OWN A MASTERING HOUSE I RUN A RECORDING STUDIO

LEAVE BLUE BEAR STUDIOS ALONE!!! WAH WAH

What a little bitch you act like i gave your site blaster virus or something its funny how words can be more powerful than an actual pimp slap or two.

Regardless im giving this forum a rest its been more of a stress reliever than anything between sessions.

Quick anecdote about why im not a big ME or Engineer fan in general:

This guy who was a certified Full Sail engineer also made beats or whatever...he goes to this ok recording studio they charge by the hour and he masters ??? or whatever his stuff there and then charges people for his beats.. the guy who owns the facility gives him hard drive space to use....

However mister engineer never burns down his stems
yes he just burns down 2 track wavs to cdr

so hes cool with it im wondering wtf the whole entire time
and guess what happens the guy with the studio has other clients and they need hard drive space so he goes and erases the engineer/producers stems and keeps the 2 track wavs

hmm which means that he cant remix them just re master whatever he has or take out the time and money to re record them

He thought it was fucked up that the facility owner did that ...
I thought that it was common sense that you back up everything.
ESPECIALLY ON COMPUTERS/PROTOOLS

How could Full Sail have over looked this???
How did i know this and i never gave them 60,000 dollars for engineer certification or certified audio technician whatever the fuck they give people

ive just met TOO many engineers that dont have ANY computer savvy...SO in reality they are THE last step that i can even consider going to because they only deal with tape machines like the Otari stuff.....

or i can fuks with Bob pay him his money and we both can leave happy

oh and as for Bob not wanting to work with me...
why would he not want to??

Hes not gonna deal with any of my personality issues because whatever he asks me for hes gonna get(except no stupidness like sexual favors haha)....Why because he's friggin Bob Clearmountain.

I mean if he wants me to buy new gear thats a whole nother story but im even willing to come in with my shit and do the recording there which he says HE DOES DO....you know but he just has a mastering house he has nothing there that actually does REAL recording like the Blue Balled Bear does


anyways you want a Wu-Tang name?

How bout Blue Eyed Devil?

Thats a hot ass mcee name

it falls right into place with the 5 percenter ideaology too...

ill even buy your cd if you come out with a album titled that shit

Blue Bear presents straight outta oklahoma BLUE EYED DEVIL

yo i will truly bump that cd in the projects as loud as my stereo can go and i will dodge some bullets to do it

Ok ok

Peace be upon you in this Grand Design

Illa


Wow, can anyone else follow this? :rolleyes: Sheesh!
 
posted by Illacov,

"Me I prefer to use all keyboards because they give you less headaches than samples do especially when it comes to $$$"




Reality check 101......


The very nature of keyboards is build on samples.
 
Reality check right back at ya

Outlaws said:
posted by Illacov,

"Me I prefer to use all keyboards because they give you less headaches than samples do especially when it comes to $$$"




Reality check 101......


The very nature of keyboards is build on samples.

Only a fuckin moron points out the fact that keyboards are built on sampled instruments and tries to compare that to CLEARING SAMPLES

Are you as retarded as your logo?

YES the JV1010, 2080 and 1080 are using sampled waveforms to generate their sounds..ok so are you saying you think you have to clear your keyboards before you can release the songs you made with them?

stop trying to make smart ass comments and look at what im saying

using ORIGINAL music is FREE last time i checked except for the equipment you gotta use to make it

SAMPLED material in songs EQUALs NO DOUGH for the artist.

so you can be a fuckin moron or understand a very very simple point

Thanks
Illacov
 
Re: Re: So basically what you're saying is

Outlaws said:
:eek:


So you are into activism and you don't like American ( gotta capitalize it...show some respect :mad: ) cars?


That only means one of two things. Either you are a dirt hippy that takes it in the yahoo, or you are a commie.

I thought you knew...

communism is the only form of freedom out there
haha

whats wrong with being communist??
You eat chinese food dont you??
hmmm

On the other hand i am a North American citizen

but AMERICAN cars SUCK

Stop foolin yourself

the Japanese make incredibly reliable cars and theres only like one or two companies i even consider when it comes to America and both of them are subsidized through Japan in regards to their manufacturing process.

So ....yes im a communist or an activist or a revolutionary or whatever
Peace
Illacov
 
illacov said:
Only a fuckin moron points out the fact that keyboards are built on sampled instruments and tries to compare that to CLEARING SAMPLES

Are you as retarded as your logo?


I know that clearing other peoples music is a pain in the ass.....but if you want to get anywhere with people in a discussion about music then YOU need to clean up your speech. Both things are samples. Not everyone can see that. I like to point out the blatantly obvious because both are sampled. Then you get into things with all the hiphop acts that see samples as just being loops. Now the equation has just become a fuckin' mess and a half.

As for my logo? Whats wrong with it? That shit it tight.

But that isn't my logo.........
 
OK …

Now I finally get it…

I was terrible concerned for a while…

Guys, he is not a dense hole in the ass, dumb as a box of rocks, fuckbag after all.

He is simply schizophrenic.
 
Holy fuck!

illacov said:

...nonsensical rant snipped....
You're certifiably insane if you actually beleive any part of the shit you just posted....

Look little boy - everything you just said puts you in the category of an errant 14-year old with delusions of grandeur.... the fact that you don't know the difference between a recording studio and a mastering house proves you're pretty ignorant of the entire industry and recordign process in general so until you get some real knowledge under your belt and can talk intelligently on the subject, I give up trying to teach you anything....

Now run along and go ask your mommy if you can play in the street....

:rolleyes:
 
He just thinks that just because big time rappers go around and claim that they are really great, that if he claimes he is really great he will be a big time rapper too. ;)

Well, possibly, but hr.com doesn't work that way.

And most of you guys are a bunch of stupid dolts who lie to gang up on people and harass them to leaving anyway, so you should shut up too.
 
For those who don't know will.

And most of you guys are a bunch of stupid dolts who lie to gang up on people and harass them to leaving anyway, so you should shut up too.

Though I can relate to how your feeling in this regard it doesn't mean their stupid dolts(not all of them anyway):D They may very well be well informed but seem to me as being part of a"bandwagon" movement. Instead of making decisions on what they have read or researched, they just blindly follow and believe what they read or a person they think appears to know what they are talking about.

I know I'm most likely opening myself to some word bashing next to illacov and regebro but in some regards I think the raise some good points.

Anyway just my two cents though I'm sure some could care less. I don't think the board (meaning how things are here) is going to change, so keeping that in mind should guild us all as to how we post and the words you use. I know it's not perfect but it does help.

later,
sonicpaint
 
Yeah, they RAISED some good points. Now they are just goind on gangbaning the guy without cause. Mass hysteria.
 
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