Herm
Well-known member
Are they that noisy or is someone just using to much compression?
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jet-rocker
New member
No, Chessrock only records symphanies and classical players. He's much too sensitive to the noise that rock and roll sometimes creates. 
-Jett
-Jett
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DJL
Self Banned
They're not the best, but they're not that bad either, and I'm sure with the right thing, in the right place, and at the right time, they might be the perfect mic ... read what Harvey said "they turned out to have greater output and lower noise than my Audix TR-40's". I gave mine alway because a friend wanted them and I didn't need them.
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chessrock
Banned
jet-rocker said:No, Chessrock only records symphanies and classical players. He's much too sensitive to the noise that rock and roll sometimes creates.
Na . . . those screaming, whaling, bitchin' nylon string accoustics (mic'ed w/ ecm8000 of course) blew my hearing out long ago. I'm totally de-sensitized by now.
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pkmusic
New member
ECM8000
I hear over and over and over about the ECM8000's!!!
$35 each....$70 a pair...$60 a pair...........where????
I want to get a pair. The cheapest I see them is at $39.99 each.
Who can beat that price?
If I can save $10-20 then it would be great!
HELP!!!
I hear over and over and over about the ECM8000's!!!
$35 each....$70 a pair...$60 a pair...........where????
I want to get a pair. The cheapest I see them is at $39.99 each.
Who can beat that price?
If I can save $10-20 then it would be great!
HELP!!!
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chessrock
Banned
damn, you're cheap.
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pkmusic
New member
Sorry, I am Puerto Rican!! J/K!!
Fine, I was wondering where people were getting those prices from. Plus $10-20 can pay for many things these days. I heard you can make up to 20 minutes of collect calls with 1-800-COLLECT for only 99 cents!!! That's about 200-400 minutes for that money!!!!! I guess I am the only cheap wanna be home rec studio.......By the way this BBS rocks!!!!!
Fine, I was wondering where people were getting those prices from. Plus $10-20 can pay for many things these days. I heard you can make up to 20 minutes of collect calls with 1-800-COLLECT for only 99 cents!!! That's about 200-400 minutes for that money!!!!! I guess I am the only cheap wanna be home rec studio.......By the way this BBS rocks!!!!!
Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
dronestudios posted this link ($35)
http://www.bananas.com/bananas/jsp/pp0.jsp?path=4&wp=19
btw, if you are as cheap as me, try to wait on a deal for a used pair....probably could get them for $40-$50......
http://www.bananas.com/bananas/jsp/pp0.jsp?path=4&wp=19
btw, if you are as cheap as me, try to wait on a deal for a used pair....probably could get them for $40-$50......
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Chris Parsons
New member
You kids and your "wha wha...it's hissing...." make me sick. I don't know if you know this, but not too long ago people recording onto somthing called "tape" and there was hiss...and most of the best sounding albums out there were done on tape.
Some are far too concerned with a little hiss and need to be more concerned about the crap they're putting on the shelves and calling music.
Good omni's for $60...live with the hiss!
-Chris Parsons
Some are far too concerned with a little hiss and need to be more concerned about the crap they're putting on the shelves and calling music.
Good omni's for $60...live with the hiss!
-Chris Parsons
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chessrock
Banned
Look, I'm not one to complain too much about a little hiss or background noise. You're talking to the same guy who'll let the heat and/or dehumidifier run during a session for the sake of a little extra comfort.
No one's saying they're not perfectly acceptable for loud things, and yea, they are more than acceptable for drums, loud guitar, and even hand percussion. That's not a problem.
But all your "back in the day of 1/8" tape" talk doesn't mean a lot to me, because I've tried micing a nylon string accoustic with one of these things, and it ain't pretty. I honestly thought something in my system was broken or there was a faulty cord / connection.
No one's saying they're not perfectly acceptable for loud things, and yea, they are more than acceptable for drums, loud guitar, and even hand percussion. That's not a problem.
But all your "back in the day of 1/8" tape" talk doesn't mean a lot to me, because I've tried micing a nylon string accoustic with one of these things, and it ain't pretty.
I honestly thought something in my system was broken or there was a faulty cord / connection.
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Chris Parsons
New member
Well back in the day of 1/8" tape....
I was born in 1982 so my "back in the day" talk is pretty useless.
I would agree the recording softer sounds with this mic may not be smart, but in general, this is a grrrrrreat mic!
What did you end up useing on the nylon guitar?
-Chris Parsons
I was born in 1982 so my "back in the day" talk is pretty useless.
I would agree the recording softer sounds with this mic may not be smart, but in general, this is a grrrrrreat mic!
What did you end up useing on the nylon guitar?
-Chris Parsons
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tdukex
Man of the Muse
I have a cheap-ass plywood nylon string guitar I keep at work for practicing. I think I'll bring it home and record some of my shitty classical licks on it with my ECM 8000 in my boxey room through my harsh Behringer mixer pres into my noisey Soundblaster Live that I normally only use for MIDI. Chess, would you like to hear that?
Ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
Maybe I'll even sing.
Ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
Maybe I'll even sing.
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eyesore
New member
Well, can someone recommend a good omni then that doesn't have the hiss? I was interested in using a pair in a dummy head type setup. Thanks.
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Richard Monroe
Well-known member
I've got a buddy who uses one on kick. No shit.-Richie
cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
I've used it when I wanted to get a really roomy, old-style sounding kick. It was great.Richard Monroe said:
I really like that mic. I'd love to get the cash together for a pair of Earthworks omnis. That would truly be the shiznit.
Rimshot
New member
Richard Monroe said:
Ummm....yeah....that would be me.
It's a temporary measure until I pick up my Audix D6. But y'know, it's not half bad. It surprised the hell out of me. I'm using a Sennheiser e835 on snare (I love it especially for brushes) and Sennheiser e604 on my small toms(I'm not thrilled with them, I originally got one as a snare mic) and SM 57 on floor toms and an e604 copy on hi-hat (I'll be stepping up to SP B3's when I can afford it). I got a new pair of EM8000's to use as overheads and it gave me a better sound on kick than any of my other mics, so I'm using one of them for now on kick and the other as an overhead. I understand that they have a built in battery than degrades after a year or two, but when they are new, they're good little mics. For the price, how can you do better?
Chris Tondreau
Member
I've said it before.... I'll say it again
A lot of debate here about "they're hissy"...."no they're fine".... blah, blah, blah, blah, and more unsupported blah.
I bought a pair on the recommendation of a few trusted souls here, and have been rather happy with them. I read a thread about someone complaining about a lot of hiss. My response set to support my opinion that they are very useable - even on acoustic guitar. (I haven't gotten to nylon guitar yet... just grabbed whatever was closest, which happened to be steel.)
The process...
I used a pair if ECM8000's (that's TWICE the noise for you pessimists
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It's an intermediate level acoustic guitar (Norman B20) with old strings. I miked up a pair of ECM8000's in an XY configuration (sort of, anyway... capsules about 2 inches apart, a little less than 90 degree angle) pointing roughly at the 12th fret. Both mics were plugged into my Behringer MX802A mixer (yes... ), and directly to my Delta 44 soundcard into Cubase. There was NO EQ, NO compression, NO effects/signal processing going into Cubase. Once recorded and playing back, I was wishing that I had engaged the Lo cut on the mixer, but I didn't, so I applied only enough EQ to roll off the low frequencies below about 100hz. Nothing else... completely raw.
In retrospect, I should have placed the mics a little lower so that they were angled more toward the top strings than the bottom so as to reduce the "boominess" a bit more naturally... oh, welll...
It's one take (there are mistakes in it), and it's short - about 44 sec. and about a half a meg as mp3.
I don't hear any excessive hiss... do you?
www.soundclick.com/bands/9/christondreaumusic.htm
Chris
A lot of debate here about "they're hissy"...."no they're fine".... blah, blah, blah, blah, and more unsupported blah.
I bought a pair on the recommendation of a few trusted souls here, and have been rather happy with them. I read a thread about someone complaining about a lot of hiss. My response set to support my opinion that they are very useable - even on acoustic guitar. (I haven't gotten to nylon guitar yet... just grabbed whatever was closest, which happened to be steel.)
The process...
I used a pair if ECM8000's (that's TWICE the noise for you pessimists
)It's an intermediate level acoustic guitar (Norman B20) with old strings. I miked up a pair of ECM8000's in an XY configuration (sort of, anyway... capsules about 2 inches apart, a little less than 90 degree angle) pointing roughly at the 12th fret. Both mics were plugged into my Behringer MX802A mixer (yes... ), and directly to my Delta 44 soundcard into Cubase. There was NO EQ, NO compression, NO effects/signal processing going into Cubase. Once recorded and playing back, I was wishing that I had engaged the Lo cut on the mixer, but I didn't, so I applied only enough EQ to roll off the low frequencies below about 100hz. Nothing else... completely raw.
In retrospect, I should have placed the mics a little lower so that they were angled more toward the top strings than the bottom so as to reduce the "boominess" a bit more naturally... oh, welll...
It's one take (there are mistakes in it), and it's short - about 44 sec. and about a half a meg as mp3.
I don't hear any excessive hiss... do you?
www.soundclick.com/bands/9/christondreaumusic.htm
Chris
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omtayslick
New member
About 14 months ago I bought a pair of these based on the many recommendations on this board. The story I got was "good for overheads, and maybe acoustic guitar." I tried them on guitar, and was thoroughly underwhelmed. I started asking myself why I had bothered to buy them, but for $70 a pair, it was worth a shot. So they gathered dust------until last weekend.
I found myself needing to record drums. This was not something that I had anticipated when I put together my limited 2 input PC recording rig. So.... with only 2 discrete tracks to work with, I decided to try picking up the whole kit with a pair of ecm's. And after some trial and error regarding placement, It worked out pretty well. Nice Natural balanced sound of all the drums and cymbals. Even the kick. Now I'm glad I have them.
I found myself needing to record drums. This was not something that I had anticipated when I put together my limited 2 input PC recording rig. So.... with only 2 discrete tracks to work with, I decided to try picking up the whole kit with a pair of ecm's. And after some trial and error regarding placement, It worked out pretty well. Nice Natural balanced sound of all the drums and cymbals. Even the kick. Now I'm glad I have them.
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omtayslick
New member
Rimshot said:
Uh oh!!! New info about the battery thing. Could someone 'splain this to me please?
Badger
Active member
Rimshot said:
I dont think so, no. The run off phantom power, no battery
