Dumb Mac question

[rob aylestone]

You must be doing something wrong, just email one wav to yourself, and tap on it. I’m certain it works. I did it on mine last night to double check. Searching for that on the music app plays it. I did it in bed, and usually have my gone on charge downstairs. Not only did it play, it played through my TV which my phone must have identified and connected to.

 

[RFR]

I’m done. I know you’re all trying to help and it seems you’ve cracked the Apple code. But I think the whole system is insane. I have to jump through all these hoops? Email this, sign up for this app, etc. and how am I going to email a wav file from a computer that stays offline???? And what’s this music app you speak of. Does that need to be downloaded and paid for from the App Store?

What is so damn simple on an android device is so complicated with Apple.

I realize I haven’t cracked the Apple code, but their system is bullshit. It seems like I’m starting to get gaslighted into me being stupid, when it’s their system that’s stupid.

And what’s this bullshit with no headphone jacks? That’s your link to the analog world. Plug into your stereo and play your mixes at home.

Anyway I’m done. Goodnight.

 

[Steenamaroo]

Honestly I'd either just revert back to the phone you know since that set up works for you,
or take the 'risk' of letting your windows box online and use that for uploading to soundcloud etc.

For having music on your phone to listen to that's simple - You just sync Music.app (MacOs) or iTunes (Windows) library to your phone each time you add something new to the music library.
You might even be able to drag+drop directly to the phone without a sync...not 100% sure but either way it's pretty simple.

I never really understood the 'keeping it offline' thing but, for me, that's the thing that's complicating matters here.
If you remove that restriction there's really no problem.

If you can't, or won't, then android ftw.

 

[rob aylestone]

Well - you could buy a USB to iPhone adaptor and stick in an SD card, or just plug in a cable - I can put files onto my phone with a cable.

I'm not being funny, or having a go - but you are creating issues that really are trivial. The not connect to the internet thing suggests an element of fear? In the past year, I've had thousands of files scrambled by a ransomeware attack, computers dying, replacements sourced and others unable to update - it's just how it is.

Being internet xenphobic limits music production really badly. All the people with loops, samples, synths, online updates, new purchases, online licensing, freebies of all kinds and downloading music, midi files - the list goes on. all denied without internet access. None of my own personal and business activities can be done without internet - my VAT return is online, my accounts are online, my payments to suppliers and purchases all done online.

Headphones with 3.5mm plugs are getting more and more unpopular. Bluetooth is everywhere. Apple cater for the mass market - if you want headphones to be plugged in, buy an adaptor. What kind of music technology can be done without the internet? So many opportunities unavailable, and how exactly do you get your music out there? People are consuming music online, with CDs and DVDs just fading away, so you need to get the music out there, and that needs the internet.

You might get a virus, you might get your accounts hacked and you can just mess up. Deal with it, make sure you backup and housekeep and get on with it.

 

[RFR]

Well, I DO appreciate everyone’s input.

Admittedly I’m not as tech savvy as most of you, and the Apple eco system is one that’s quite new to me and confusing.

As I said before I’ll just re-read al the responses. There’s a lot to unpack for a Luddite like me.

Please excuse any frustrations I’ve vented.

Since I have so many Apple devices, I guess I’ll have to learn them.

 

[Deleted member 196982]

@RFR, nobody is trying to "gaslight" you - just trying to help. Yes, you need to take a few deep breaths and go back and read some of the posts. A lot of the consternation has to do with Apple's terminology/naming, defaults, and the switch from iTunes to "Music" where they really want you to sign up for a service, but it's not required, though I've gotten comfortable with it, since I got a few free months with the AirPods I got last Xmas, and tried it as a replacement for Spotify. The fact that it integrates with an app I was already using (i.e., iTunes/Music) is actually a plus for me, but not everyone. Different strokes and all...

Also, there's a lightning to 3.5mm adapter you can get for a couple bucks, and Apple also included (IIRC) wired earbuds with just the lightning connector. I'll send you one or the other if you PM me your address.

 

[rob aylestone]

The annoying thing is that those who have lots of apple products tend to really like them, but we hate Apple! The through the nose crazy pricing, the dodgy dealings in the shops, so called genius staff who never do anything out front, always in the back, in private. If you look well off, then it's a write off kind of stuff, buy a new one. The trouble is the products do work really well and kind of protect you from things that go wrong - so it IS annoying when you want to deal with files, as oposed to just the name of a tune. The mini mac I bought recently - compared to windows setup - it was just so easy. It went off and found my network, the wifi, even the passwords and favourites I had on another product. Windows asks many questions, that beginners (or people like my technophobe wife) don't understand, She just had to get a new iphone, and went up a few models but turning it on, it just wanted her old one nearby, and it did everything itself - the new phone then just worked like the old one, but without the cracked screen. This is the joy/hatred of Apple.

 

[RFR]

@RFR, nobody is trying to "gaslight" you - just trying to help. Yes, you need to take a few deep breaths and go back and read some of the posts. A lot of the consternation has to do with Apple's terminology/naming, defaults, and the switch from iTunes to "Music" where they really want you to sign up for a service, but it's not required, though I've gotten comfortable with it, since I got a few free months with the AirPods I got last Xmas, and tried it as a replacement for Spotify. The fact that it integrates with an app I was already using (i.e., iTunes/Music) is actually a plus for me, but not everyone. Different strokes and all...

Also, there's a lightning to 3.5mm adapter you can get for a couple bucks, and Apple also included (IIRC) wired earbuds with just the lightning connector. I'll send you one or the other if you PM me your address.

I appreciate your response. Thank you.

I do realize I wasn’t actually being ‘gaslighted’ and people are trying to help.

The terminology is indeed a stumbling block. I think Apple should include a dictionary with every product they sell.

Yes I’m going to take a deep breath and step back.

Thanks for your offer. It’s very nice of you. Is a lightning connector the same jack as your standard charging cable??

See? Once again lack of knowledge of the terminology.

 

[Deleted member 196982]

I.... Is a lightning connector the same jack as your standard charging cable??
...

Yes, that's the Apple proprietary connector used for charging, at least until the iPhone 15, which uses a USB-C port/jack. (You can thank the EU for this change, supposed to reduce the number of different chargers you have, but, of course, it still doesn't solve the no 3.5mm headphone jack problem, so you need to add another adapter to the collection...)

 

[RFR]

Yes, that's the Apple proprietary connector used for charging, at least until the iPhone 15, which uses a USB-C port/jack. (You can thank the EU for this change, supposed to reduce the number of different chargers you have, but, of course, it still doesn't solve the no 3.5mm headphone jack problem, so you need to add another adapter to the collection...)

3.5 mm headphone jack comes in handy for hooking up to vintage hi fi gear. If anyone back then were to mention bluetooth, you’d tell them to go see a dentist

 

[rob aylestone]

I must admit to using my phone when the media player in the rack threw a wobbly for a theatre show walking in music. Spotify and the headphone adaptor saved the day. However, this was adaptor 2, because adaptor 1 was identified by my phone as non genuine and the phone rejected it, which I did think was a bit protective.

 

[rob aylestone]

I just note that Samsung and Motorola and Samsung android phones are not actually immune from being'not nice'. They're disabling the phones of customers who imported them from a cheaper country. So not counterfeit phones, just grey imports. They can just switch them off!

 

[Farview]

The newer Samsung Galaxy phones need an adapter to plug headphones in now as well.

Everything is going that way.

 

[RFR]

I just note that Samsung and Motorola and Samsung android phones are not actually immune from being'not nice'. They're disabling the phones of customers who imported them from a cheaper country. So not counterfeit phones, just grey imports. They can just switch them off!

I compared my earlier (2012) android to a buddy’s new android and the file system isn’t as accessible either. He said that’s to make it harder to hack.

 

[RFR]

Love this video. I can relate to Rick.