Dumb Mac question

[BTStudio]

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My info must be out of date. Never mind.

Ya I wasn’t sure if I was right so I tried it quickly before posting. I figured maybe your newer gear was different. Oh well live and learn.

 

[RFR]

Total rubbish! My phone, pad and computers are macs and I just logged into my server on them all and tapped on a wave file. They ALL play it fine. MP3, M4a, wav and aiff makes no difference. Cubase on my macs plays the stuff created in my pcs.

I have a three in one adaptor I can stuff into the iphone, an android phone or a usb socket and have never had any problems with audio files. If you have an iPhone you can click on a web link, like on this forum and play somebodies wav file. If you download it, the Apple Music app plays it.
to rfr
your Mac computer will copy and paste wave like any other file type, on the phone, the issue is that there isnt really an app to do file management like finder on the macs. The phones are designed to not show dangerous stuff to the users. there are file manager apps available though. My MacBook seems happy to read the phones files though?

Yes it is true the iPhone will play WAV files, mp3 etc. I do it all the time here on this forum.

So what I’m getting from Rob is that my WaV files are ‘hidden’ from me for safety reasons??

So if I can’t find them, I can’t play them.

Well isn’t that a jolly Fu from Apple. They have to keep me safe from my music.

It’s perfectly well and good that I can hear other people’s music files on my phone.

But we come back to how do I find and hear my own music files on my phone???

 

[RFR]

The only places I know of to store wav files is in iTunes or in the cloud, which is called files on the iphone. It doesn't allow the open storage thing android does. It's one of the downsides but it can be managed.

So when you hit the “files” icon on the iPhone it takes you to iCloud?

Hmm nothing there except GarageBand which I never use.

 

[RFR]

Nothing will be there until moved there. If u were on ur mac mini and u had these wavs there, you could drag them into the icloud. Probably called iCloud drive on the mac mini. Choose A folder to make it easier to find like downloads....allow it to sync (automatically) and you’d be able to see them in files on ur phone (which is not actually on the iphone, it’s in the cloud, just for clarity)

Thanks for the response.

So here’s what I’m getting.
I can’t directly put wav files into the iPhone. It has to go through the Mac mini to the cloud and when I sync my phone to the mini then it shows up in my files folder on the phone. To play the file I’m actually accessing the wav files from the cloud.
Correct?

 

[RFR]

Simple version just so you can get doing what you need to: yea. Except you don’t sync ur phone to the mac mini it does it automatically over the internet. Mac mini connected to router, iPhone connected via wifi and it just does it itself. Yep to play the file.

* when u connect ur iphone to ur mac mini it doesn’t open like it does with an android. U can’t see all the photos, music, documents etc in the browser or finder on a mac.

More complicated workaround way: if wanted to start sharing wav files u could use a messaging app like whats app or telegram. Telegram is much better for this. Within these apps u can a document or something, which will take u to your files, where u can add/send a wav.

Fucking Apple. it just has to complicate things

 

[RFR]

Haha I’m a logic user so I’m stuck with it. Don’t feel like building a hackintosh and I’ve found workarounds since leaving the world or pc/apple. I still hear u though!

One question. Does that mean I have to have the WiFi always turned on on my phone?

 

[RFR]

I THINK it is being connected to the internet in general like, if i were to send u a PDF while u were out and u saved it in your files using ur phone, when u got home and fired up the mac mini and opened the icloud drive, it should be there.

But through cell towers I’m always connected to the internet anyway.

I’m on the net right now despite having my WiFi turned off.

Is this more of a thing of keeping all my iOS devices synced together??

 

[TalismanRich]

My Apple won't play any .wav or .mp3 files. I can't get them onto the floppy disk, and for the life of me I can't find the USB port! I can try to download from online, if I plug a modem into the serial port and use dialup to get on the internet, but the browser really stinks! Plus people think I'm yelling since the letters are all caps!

Sorry... I'm in a mood today!

 

[RFR]

Yea it should work this way. It’s a continual updating of the files in the cloud. I can’t say for certain because files specifically I’ve not consciously tested out. Things like my notes and pages work. They stay synced.


What do you mean?

I’m referring to them all talking to each other via WiFi, rather than hooking them together via a physical cord or Bluetooth

 

[RFR]

My Apple won't play any .wav or .mp3 files. I can't get them onto the floppy disk, and for the life of me I can't find the USB port! I can try to download from online, if I plug a modem into the serial port and use dialup to get on the internet, but the browser really stinks! Plus people think I'm yelling since the letters are all caps!

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Sorry... I'm in a mood today!

Well despite being not very useful, it was at least entertaining.

 

[Papanate]

Yes it is true the iPhone will play WAV files, mp3 etc. I do it all the time here on this forum.

So what I’m getting from Rob is that my WaV files are ‘hidden’ from me for safety reasons??

So if I can’t find them, I can’t play them.

Well isn’t that a jolly Fu from Apple. They have to keep me safe from my music.

It’s perfectly well and good that I can hear other people’s music files on my phone.

But we come back to how do I find and hear my own music files on my phone???

Just load the wave files into Garage band and upload them from there - as for iTunes no you don't need it - it's Apple Music that you need.

 

[RFR]

Just load the wave files into Garage band and upload them from there - as for iTunes no you don't need it - it's Apple Music that you need.

I can load WAV files from my PC into Garage band on my iPhone?

 

[TalismanRich]

Well despite being not very useful, it was at least entertaining.

Surprisingly, that is the ONLY Apple product that I have ever owned, and I bought it used. I had TI, Atari, Atari ST and then moved to PC, and have been there ever since. For phones, I refuse to spend $500-$1000 on a I-phone. My Samsung Android cost me about $100 and does 5G and has 64GB + 128GB micro SD for storage.

 

[rob aylestone]

I’ve just had a look on my iPhone. Using files, it shows me what’s on the phone, the cloud and services I didn’t know I had on line, and the files are there. Oddly, a wav looks the same as an mp3? The little blue triangle. Get info reveals what it is. Wav or mp3 is not shown in the list. I can then play it, or send it to other devices or email it.

what do you want to do that you can’t? Equally, I can plug my phone into the PC and do stuff there? I’m lost as to what is the thing that doesn’t work?

EDIT, I didn’t notice, but my phone opened GarageBand, which I didn’t even know I had, to show me all these files. Neat!

 

[RFR]

I’ve just had a look on my iPhone. Using files, it shows me what’s on the phone, the cloud and services I didn’t know I had on line, and the files are there. Oddly, a wav looks the same as an mp3? The little blue triangle. Get info reveals what it is. Wav or mp3 is not shown in the list. I can then play it, or send it to other devices or email it.

what do you want to do that you can’t? Equally, I can plug my phone into the PC and do stuff there? I’m lost as to what is the thing that doesn’t work?

EDIT, I didn’t notice, but my phone opened GarageBand, which I didn’t even know I had, to show me all these files. Neat!

I just want to put WAV files of my mixes (done on a PC ) onto my phone to be able to listen to them in my car, home stereo system, listen on the phone with earbuds, be able to upload to SoundCloud, ect.

When I open files it shows nothing except garage band (which I never use) and I have zero items in the folders.

 

[RFR]

That’s really a job for apple music...Syncing with the iPhone.

Did u drag and drop those wavs to the icloud drive folder on the mac mini?

No I put the files on my android from my pc. Simple drag and drop operation. The phone is recognized as an external hard drive. Easy.

Then when I got the iPhone they transferred all the data from the android to the iPhone.

All contacts, pics, & videos transferred but no wavs or pdf data made it into the new phone. Or at least somewhere they can be found.

 

[rob aylestone]

Send them to your phone - I've just tried a few ways and email seems to work the simplest, then when it is on your phone, save it and it asks which folder you want it in.

 

[RFR]

Send them to your phone - I've just tried a few ways and email seems to work the simplest, then when it is on your phone, save it and it asks which folder you want it in.

Can’t send them to my phone.

My music computers never go online. Why?

Well, I’m running windows 7 and protools ten. I never have to deal with the hassles of upgrading and the havoc that can cause.

Plus I get no malware ever.

PT 10 and windows 7 just work.

 

[Deleted member 196982]

Honestly @RFR, I don't know what you're doing, but you're doing something wrong. As Rob says, playing WAV files is built in, and has been for some time. Now, Apple has switched from iTunes to Apple Music, which does want you to basically buy a streaming service, like Spotify, but you can still use it to store and play your audio files. There's simply no reason why the files will not show up, in my experience, which is about 10 years, starting with High Sierra Mac OS.

You should not need the cloud to import your files into the Mac. Put them on an external drive, formatted FAT32, to remove any NTFS file attributes/ownership. Plug that into your Mac and you should see exactly the same file structure and files on the Mac that you saw on your Windows PC.

Then, open the Music (nee iTunes) app. The default for importing music will convert your WAV files to AAC (a "lossy" format, but arguably better than MP3). I use 320kbps, but if you want, you can preserve the lossless file by choosing the Settings menu item from the app name (top menu) drop-down, go to Files, and open the Import Settings dialog. You can choose the default AAC, or anything you want, including WAV! Since you have WAV files, there's no metadata embedded in those files, so you'll have to manually enter that information (which is why I use AAC these days - my ears cannot hear the difference for casual listening).

Once you have your stuff in the Music app, you can plug your iPhone into the Mac (using a USB to lightening cable - borrowed from the iPhone charger if you don't have another one), and "sync" the library to the phone, where you can listen to everything via earbuds/airpods/bluetooth/CarPlay and most any other method. The phone will not work as a USB drive, however.

I made my living for a couple decades+ working on Windows ("Wintel") systems but started fooling around with Macs around 2012, and switched completely over 5 years ago. Apple aggravates me, and it's not all roses, but I'll take the UI and decluttered workflows any day.

 

[RFR]

Thanks for trying to help

But this is frustrating as all hell.

PC to android is simple.

I’m giving this all a break, and I’ll re-read all the posts. I’ll with come back with a success or an announcement that I’ve smashed my iPhone

Thanks one and all for your help.