Do you really buy that expensive recording software?

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Do you buy that expensive recording software, or just download it?(Read authors post)

  • I buy it. I like to support the creator.

    Votes: 564 41.2%
  • I download it. To hell with the creator.

    Votes: 305 22.3%
  • I do both. I have mixed feelings on the subject.

    Votes: 501 36.6%

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and yeah that "amen" break is nice...overused though, I try to use breaks that people haven't heard as much or at all, but I will always go back a few classic ones from time to time.


sometimes you can just hear that classic drum break in your head along with your music, and you have to use it, it's only right.
 
TerraMortim said:
that one was directed at you too, oh musical genius. Let's hear your mind blowing songs. I bet it joins the endless catalogue of pointless music made by endless faceless hordes of white middle class "blues (HA!) rockers" in the fashion of that really neato 70s band that only studio buffs, and vinyl collectors (myself being part of both categoiries) care about. I ususally hear this kind of ignorant bullshit come from people who make the most artistically devoid music. Just because you play music, even if you play it well, doesn't mean you UNDERSTAND it, or can make anything that ammounts to a hill of beans.

You are not the center of the universe, as much as your type thinks, and you are not the authority of everyone elses art. I fyou want to be a critic, don't be a musician. Just shut the fuck up and realize that there are a million ways to express yourself, and maybe if you would keep an open mind, you would be able to benefit, and learn, from a few of them.



^this needs to be framed
 
TerraMortim said:
since when has intelligence had anything to do with educational institutions? You know what? read a book from real scholars, your professor is probably as full of shit as the next guy, unless you're lucky enough to go to a school where they employ someone who actually knows someting.

You get the odd person: Noam Chomsky, for example... but really telling someone to get some schooling won't do anything for them other than give them another meaningless accomplishment that they can pat themselves on the back for for the rest of their life, and enable them to make a few bucks more in their job of being fucked by their financial masters.

And to be honest, you haven't backed up what you say with any ptoof that you are of any significant intillectual ability. I don't know this pacman guy, but at least he does his homework, and actually knows the reality of A. global politics, which run your life and my own life. B. Copyright law. (look it the fuck up, he's not off base.) You can either believe what some guy with a sport suit and power tie says, or you can look at the actual laws... I don't think I would have to tell you which will get you more accurate results.


this too...



also add in Howard Zinn after Chomsky...I don't agree with everything they have to say ov course.
 
TerraMortim said:
The people who come up with the ideas that you are spending so much money to study RARELY have any significant formal eduaction, even some of them hadn't made it past basic formal eduation.

yes, schools are yet another institution to give them more money, and really that's all it has to do with. There have been so many cases where knowledge that was not profitable was suprsessed by educational institutions, lobbyists who then effect policy, in favor of skewed ideas that put their ideas as reality and keep the redistribution of wealth and power into their hands.

I have no idea whether I'm smart, and have no idea why I'd have to prove that to anyone. I'm definately not as confused and ignorant as a lot of people I see, whether that takes intelligence or common sense, it doean't really matter to me. I've gotten to a place in my life where I really don't care for social "norms" in the way of what is considered acedemic, smart, successful, etc. I do what I feel convicted to do, and it brings me personal peace, and contentment. If you have to prove it, you might not have it. Dunno. I don't have all the answers, but I can see bullshit for what it is. Why can't other people? Isn't it obvious?

I don't care about the "internet tough guy" retardation, I would have shouted that shit in your face in person regardless, and have to people on many occasions. I hate people who invalidate other people's methods for no apparent reason (maybe their own fears of being obsolete? I dunno). My intentions are to stick up for people who are belittled by your mindset. I've seen people who had a real understanding of art litterally give up, because the way they created their art was contrary to the old school snobs. That is a tradgedy, with their useless elitism, they've just caused the beautiful pool of great art to miss out on all of the greatness they could have created.

It's not so much relevant whether I enjoy stirring shit up or not. I personally love it, but this has nothing to do with that. This is to do with people belitlling others for nothing other than their methods to express themselves. Sampling can be original, if I find a great quote from some ignorant racists 40s government film that helps to bring the lyrical point to a more intense level, it's absolutely no lack of originality. THe clip as it was sampled was for an entirely different purpose. It's completely possible to create original and relevent art with samples... Another great example is Portishead.... they weren't so originial were they. . . . (sarcasm).

Me being Pacman? eh? Naw... I have no idea who he is, I just happen to see that he does have a good grip on reality with certain issues, and I thought it was quite pompous and downright stereotypical of someone with your chosen screen name to say something like that.

If you want to talk originality, why not try doing an instrument that isn't part of the typical modern rock/pop format of music. Take up the flute, or the bagpipes, or even pick up some ethic instruments to learn. That would be much more original than guitar (as the instrument that almost the entire world comes running to in order to make music)...I mean, after all how original can you be with that exact same instrument, with the same effect (distortion) playing the same old shit everyone's heard a million times over, which was never even that groundbreaking when it was done te first time. Sure, there are exeptions. Zappa was more original that most musicians since the begining of music and he used a lot of guitar... but do you presume you are on that level of genius? I certainly wouldn't.

Guitar is standard in our modern way of looking at music, only because of OUR MODERN SOCIETY. Music existed before the guitar, and believe it or not, it was just as good before this strange instrument became commonplace, and if the guitar suddenly ceased to exist, music as we know it would not fall apart. We would simply find new ways of expressing ourselves. I enjoy guitar, but it's far from original, regardless of what you play, everyone plays it, and almost every single song has it.

This might be long. but jesus dude, do you have to be such an asshole about the way other people create their music? It's no less valid or original than your choice to use the most stereotpical modern instrument out there as your chosen medium. I love the guitar myself, but I have no delusions as to it's superiority over other instruments for creaation.



Another Classical Post...



yeah try playing a digireedoo that's more original then a geetar, if you want to be superior in your originality make up your own instrument, like samplists have done.. a turntable being used as an instrument to "scratch" in samples is more original then some drunk hick playin his geetar, danny.
 
hahaha nice . I guess since you are me I'm replying to myself. People on here are... hmm wow... I don't even find this big of egos in studios, where the hell do these people come from?
 
After much reading of this thread, and years of what I would like to think of as healthy debate. Even if it does get very heated at times, I decided to create a summary of this entire thread in one post, in 13 simple points.

1. Some people think piracy is ok. Some people don't
2. Some people think sampling is ok. Some people don't
3. This thread is gay
4. Some people welcome a capitalist economy. Some people despise it
5. Some people give a shit about your music. Some people don't
6. This thread is gay
7. People have their own opinions. This is a good thing. If we were all the same the world would be a very boring place
8. This thread is gay
9. We are going round in circles here
10. This thread is like 5 years old for Christ's sake
11. This thread is gay
12. People aren't going to change their opinions just because someone says so. No mattrer how valid the point
12.5 This thread is gay
13 This thread is gay


None of these facts will ever change.

I think this provides a conclusive light to this argument, and therefore would like to request consideration that all the answers are here in this thread affirming post.

:p
 
legionserial said:
After much reading of this thread, and years of what I would like to think of as healthy debate. Even if it does get very heated at times, I decided to create a summary of this entire thread in one post, in 13 simple points.

1. Some people think piracy is ok. Some people don't
2. Some people think sampling is ok. Some people don't
3. This thread is gay
4. Some people welcome a capitalist economy. Some people despise it
5. Some people give a shit about your music. Some people don't
6. This thread is gay
7. People have their own opinions. This is a good thing. If we were all the same the world would be a very boring place
8. This thread is gay
9. We are going round in circles here
10. This thread is like 5 years old for Christ's sake
11. This thread is gay
12. People aren't going to change their opinions just because someone says so. No mattrer how valid the point
12.5 This thread is gay
13 This thread is gay


None of these facts will ever change.

I think this provides a conclusive light to this argument, and therefore would like to request consideration that all the answers are here in this thread affirming post.

:p



I'll sum up your life:

1. youre disgruntled because youre a gay hick who was molested by his father, and enjoyed it, but now you feel guilty about it...which you feel is unfair: for society to make you feel dirty about your love for you father.



please keep your problems to yourself, I can't do nuthin for you.
 
pacman how can your music be sampled stuff with other things over it, if you haven't even figured out how to record yet? Or have you achieved that great milestone already?
 
danny.guitar said:
pacman how can your music be sampled stuff with other things over it, if you haven't even figured out how to record yet? Or have you achieved that great milestone already?



Well, If you weren't from alabama, and weren't so drunk all the time, danny, you might have observed my posts which clearly stated I have recorded to reel to reels as well as a roland digital recorder, and have worked in studios as a assistant technician before deciding it wasn't for me (don't like to do work for music I don't like)...I'm an expert at EQing vocals, bass, and drums fyi.
 
pacman9000 said:
If you weren't so drunk all the time, you might have observed my posts which stated taht I have used reel to reels as well as a roland digital recorder, and have worked in studios as a technician before deciding it wasn't for me.

Hey I'm only drunk half the time.

But the technician thing? Seriously? Just asking, because if my drunken memory serves me right you were asking some pretty basic questions about things most technicians would know.

Oh, you edited your post.

I'm from Connecticut actually. :)
 
u sound like a bama hick fo sho


I was asking about computer based recording and soundcards, you know, the title of this forum.


I never said I was the head engineer, u dumb hick...Mainly, I have the ear, and I know how to EQ...and I know what sounds good, most people are not blessed with my lovely ears and ability to make music come to life by choosing correct samples to blend together, I bring new life to old samples and make them sound better then they did originally...like i breathed life into this dead forum.
 
pacman9000 said:
u sound like a bama hick fo sho

You sure it's me that sounds like that? :confused:


pacman9000 said:
I was asking about computer based recording and soundcards, you know, the title of this forum.


Mainly, I have the ear, and I know how to EQ...and I know what sounds good, most people are not blessed with my lovely ears and ability to make music come to life.

Can I hear some of your work? Not that I'm doubting you or anything but I'd actually be interested in hearing some of it.
 
pacman9000 said:
yeah try playing a digireedoo that's more original then a geetar, if you want to be superior in your originality make up your own instrument

I have a didg! I like to use it in unusual ways, I blow on it like a shofar. I have a tuba-playing friend who can get 4 notes out of the didg, that's a damn fine accomplishment given the size of the "mouthpiece" :D

Strictly speaking though, I haven't invented an instrument, maybe I'll get to that someday though. For now, I invent other stuff. I also like to play with pitch shifting and modulation of recorded instruments, it's much more organic for me than synths, especially since I suck at keyboard and I am too stupid to understand much MIDI :p

I don't see why the issue of samples is complicated. If you want to use a sample, credit it. Problem solved.
 
pacman9000 said:
...my intellect far surpasses all on this board full of petty malice, and I luv spelling words wrong, because it makes you people feel better about yourself, I do pity you.
Hey! I've got try this!!

wheelema said:
my intelect is the gratest intelect on this board, i hav an iq of two thosand and five! i am aslo far far beter lookin han all of u and my wee wee is ten inchs long which is why u are jelous of me! i spel this way cause i want to make you idjits feel good abot urselfvs!

Kind of like the Bander-Log, don'tcha think? I'm the greatest, because I say so!!!
 
pacman9000 said:
I'll sum up your life:

1. youre disgruntled because youre a gay hick who was molested by his father, and enjoyed it, but now you feel guilty about it...which you feel is unfair: for society to make you feel dirty about your love for you father.



please keep your problems to yourself, I can't do nuthin for you.

Whatever man. If making crude comments about my father is the best response you can give, it says more about you than me.
 
mshilarious said:
I have a didg! I like to use it in unusual ways, I blow on it like a shofar. I have a tuba-playing friend who can get 4 notes out of the didg, that's a damn fine accomplishment given the size of the "mouthpiece" :D

Strictly speaking though, I haven't invented an instrument, maybe I'll get to that someday though. For now, I invent other stuff. I also like to play with pitch shifting and modulation of recorded instruments, it's much more organic for me than synths, especially since I suck at keyboard and I am too stupid to understand much MIDI :p

I don't see why the issue of samples is complicated. If you want to use a sample, credit it. Problem solved.


the didg is extra kewl for sure...I also agree that sampling instruments and playing around with them or pitching them down a keyboard sounds far better then synths...much more natural and organic like you say.


On your last statement, it's clear you don't understand the music industry and how the labels have distorted copyright law...you can't just give credit, you have to give your life savings for permission to use a half second sample, or if you're on a label and they have to pay for it they will order you not to use the sample if it cost them too much.

but, fukk the music industry, they will be blown into oblivion and they will burn in hell, god willing, in the near future...as will many courthouses and police stations across this terrible nation by true patriots utilizing some friendly muslim sewaside bamas.


I'd like to hear some of your music that includes didg!
 
pacman9000 said:
On your last statement, it's clear you don't understand the music industry and how the labels have distorted copyright law...you can't just give credit, you have to give your life savings for permission to use a half second sample, or if you're on a label and they have to pay for it they will order you not to use the sample if it cost them too much.

The word "credit" means pay as well as acknowledge . . . just sample indy stuff where the natives are friendly. If indy stuff is all the good music being released, then it follows that it contains all the good stuff to sample ;)
 
mshilarious said:
The word "credit" means pay as well as acknowledge . . . just sample indy stuff where the natives are friendly. If indy stuff is all the good music being released, then it follows that it contains all the good stuff to sample ;)


i sample alot of old vinyl...and alot of great pop music was made in the past, just not in this day and age of the lazy and utterly corrupt 4 major labels that get to decide everything, and they do whatever is easier for them to make profits, they could give a fukk less about the music...fukk capitilism and fukk the labels...death is the only option for them.
 
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