Didn't expect wireless to solve this

[FrankD77]

Funny thing
Overall my signal chain is pretty clean.
But sometimes there is a very annoying hum/interference that i can't locate except suspect the Airco or washer/dryer.

To experiment i bought a wireless set and to my surprise the setup is a lot less noisy. I can understand grounding issues with wireless but didn't expect it also to have a positive effect on the other interference. I love older guitars so i guess I'm going to play wireless all the time now

Anyone else have experiences like this ?

 

[TalismanRich]

I've never tried a wireless, but on my pedal board I switched from a plug in power supply to a battery powered one. It lowered the noise.

Is it possible that the cable you were using isn't well shielded? I have several different cables downstairs ranging from a cheap no name to Mogami. Perhaps I should do a comparison.

 

[FrankD77]

I've never tried a wireless, but on my pedal board I switched from a plug in power supply to a battery powered one. It lowered the noise.

Is it possible that the cable you were using isn't well shielded? I have several different cables downstairs ranging from a cheap no name to Mogami. Perhaps I should do a comparison.

Tried different cables.
Whole set is on one group and over 2 power conditioners

Already solved some issues with 2 line isolators and overal the noise floor is almost non existent. Even with gain I hardly use a gate.

We live on an industrial area and sometimes there is an interference i can't really pin point. It seems with wireless it's gone. At least for a large part.

Just surprised me. I thought it would help with some grounding issues with some old guitars but was surprised it actually also helped with other problems

 

[60's guy]

Electromagnetic Interference - Help!!

I am trying to pinpoint the source of the EMI that is making it's way into my DAW in my home studio. The funny thing is that if I sit facing my computer monitor with my guitar I get the EMI, turn 90 degrees and nothing as long as I stay within a degree or so of the sweet spot. Now, if I face the...

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[FrankD77]

Electromagnetic Interference - Help!!

I am trying to pinpoint the source of the EMI that is making it's way into my DAW in my home studio. The funny thing is that if I sit facing my computer monitor with my guitar I get the EMI, turn 90 degrees and nothing as long as I stay within a degree or so of the sweet spot. Now, if I face the...

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Well known fact indeed and very annoying.
Solved that in my setup with placement and running the laptop on a separate dock which isolated the USB. Straight on power was introducing a high pitched sound. I changed to a OWC dock and that problem went away. In all honesty that dissapointed me of the MacBook pro it's designed for creators and i can't run on the battery all the time

As mentioned we live in an industrial area and it's certain moments. Sometimes i think it's the ac or dryer but it also happens when they are off. It's maybe once every 2 days but when it's going on you can forget about recording

 

[ecc83]

Wireless link kit has improved massively in the last 20 years or so. For the ultimate in such systems treat yourself to the current copy of Sound on Sound in which there is a review of the fabulous Sound Devices wireless gear range.
You will sit down and stop drooling however when you check the price!

Dave.

 

[FrankD77]

Wireless link kit has improved massively in the last 20 years or so. For the ultimate in such systems treat yourself to the current copy of Sound on Sound in which there is a review of the fabulous Sound Devices wireless gear range.
You will sit down and stop drooling however when you check the price!

Dave.

I still have an 30 year old UHF system.
Two antennas and belt pack. It was ok

I now bought the JW06 joyo/lekato
A 5.8ghz system. Super small, box to charge and i can't say it sounds worse or different. Maybe if you record and compare. But for me this means no more cable

And it was very affordable for 99,00

 

[rob aylestone]

Misaligned companders often make wireless sound ‘better’. For many years i ran a 6 way rack of Trantec receivers, but used Sennheiser transmitters. This, everyone says, is bad, and causes all sorts of RF issues to do with bandwidth and deviation, but I did it because it made them sound better. Eventual tests showed it was the compression on the way out and expansion on the way in that did it. Maybe this is what is happening to your system? In fairness, with the same model gear it shouldn't’ happen, but maybe its in the design?

 

[FrankD77]

I have no issues at all with cable that's the thing.
Some old single coils have grounding issues but nothing bad.

Once every few days we have an interference even on my Jems that is a combination of high and low hums and noise. It's terrible.

You can play but recording is out.
With the wireless this also seems to be solved.

I don't think it's something in my set seeing it's i guess 95% of the time nice and clean. Everything else is the same.

 

[Papanate]

Funny thing
Overall my signal chain is pretty clean.
But sometimes there is a very annoying hum/interference that i can't locate except suspect the Airco or washer/dryer.

To experiment i bought a wireless set and to my surprise the setup is a lot less noisy. I can understand grounding issues with wireless but didn't expect it also to have a positive effect on the other interference. I love older guitars so i guess I'm going to play wireless all the time now

Anyone else have experiences like this ?

I haven’t experienced it - but wireless is a easy fix for buzz and grounding issues - maybe you need to Iso your power to your room - my whole studio is isolated and I have zero noise.

 

[FrankD77]

I haven’t experienced it - but wireless is a easy fix for buzz and grounding issues - maybe you need to Iso your power to your room - my whole studio is isolated and I have zero noise.

95% of the time i have no issues.
It's sometimes out of nowhere. Probably a company in our area. I'm using line isolators, one group and power conditioners. does make it very quiet overall

 

[TalismanRich]

Frank, based on your comments, I had ordered the JW06 adapter. The post office sort of lost track of it for 8 days. It suddenly appeared on the tracker on Sunday.

It showed up today and I had time to test it out. It worked without issue, as I expected. The question I had was how did it sound.


I made 3 comparisons. First I compared it to my P90 hollow body Heritage H-530 with Mogami cable direct into the Princeton. There might have been a difference, there might not have been. It was so close that I couldn't decide if I heard any difference at all.

Next I plugged into my Tascam interface instrument input. In the past I've had issue with guitars sounding really dull, midrangy with no top end. I think the loading really plays havoc with guitar pickups. I even noticed it with my bass. I would use my PodXT on the Bassman setting to record. The Joyo seems to be perfect. It sounded crisp on the top and full on the bottom.

Finally used my pedal board which has the Strymon Iridium for direct in use into an interface. Vox Wah > TurboTuner > TS9 > H20 Chorus > NotaKlon > Iridium. It sounded very clear, good top end and full. No issue with noise or signal loss when walking around the room. It's supposed to have 20M range

We'll see how long the battery lasts. Tomorrow we should jam for about 3 hours. They are supposed to last 6-8 hours. That would just about cover an entire jam. I'll have my cable in the box just in case, but it will be nice not to have to worry about stepping on my cable. I have the Joyo JP-05 power pack for my pedal board. If I got another wireless, I wouldn't need a cable. Put the pedal board where ever I need it and fire up the wireless adapters and go! I might get a JW-02 just for fun.

$70 on Ebay or Amazon.

 

[FrankD77]

I only play at home and even there it's so much easier.

They will last longer than 3 hours
I played two mornings with them and decided to charge after that but they still worked fine. 4-5 hours

When the battery gets older it will get worse. But they are not that expensive