dammit, im lost in a void of complex tools

[blazingstrings]

Even when using a "Pirated" program your still not getting full use out of it.
My friend was using a pirated copy of Sonar for some time. I have always used full purchased versions of Sonar, my buddy came over one day after using the same version of Sonar 3 for a long while and he was kind of shocked at how well my setup worked. It is faster and less buggy, We both bought the same PC same processor and ramm amount ect ect. same sound card...........

My point? well... my friend tryed many many MANY programs all pirated.
I bought homestudio from Cakewalk after I had to junk my old Cool Edit Pro machine(PII 200MHZ Yikes!). After I learned the program through and through, I realized its all very simular to other programs.

Again my point is its realy just picking one that lists some great features and learning the program realy well.

-Blaze

 

[ssscientist]

um, yeah, i wasnt aware that alot of you were software programmers and industry pro's. yeah, i did aquire some pirated software, but thats only to try before i buy. seriously, these programs are half a grand each and im supposed to buy them before even knowing if i like them? thats pretty rediculous. thats like buying a car without ever have looking at it.

The term 'industry pro' almost makes me puke because of the idiots I've had to suffer over the years who fling that term around. Even though I do make a decent living in the audio world I never descibe myself that way - it implies that I have nothing left to learn, and that's far from true.

As far as 'try before buy', that's exactly what demo versions of programs and software apps are for. You won't ever lay out 'half a grand' for a program that doesn't do what you want it to. That's like not only taking a car out for a test drive but being allowed to take it home for a few weeks to find out if your family likes it, what kind of city and highway mileage it gets, if it fits in the garage and to make sure the color suits you. If the manufacturer can't be bothered to offer a demo version (protools being the first one that springs to mind) fuck them and move on. There's too much competition for your software dollar for that kind of arrogance on the software companies part.

I can imagine how frustrating it must be to be Bewildered, and my recommendation would be to start smaller than trying to understand Cubase. Here's a link to the Fruity Loops demo and another to the Tracktion demo. FL has lots of built-in sounds that you'll soon get the hang of editing, and Tracktion comes with a bunch of free softsynths and VSTfx.

 

[bewildered]

thanks sccientist. my biggest problem is that my ambitions outweigh my learning resources. i know what it is i want to do, but am having a hard time learning how to get there, and am in too big of a rush to go directly to the goal.

i used to play on fruity loops, didnt much care for its simplicity. Im coming to discover that the reason i cant create simple tracks is because i wont be happy with what i create till ive created what i want to create, if that makes any sense. I guess i need to put my ambitions on the sideline and make some cheesy crappy music to get the hang of it. Of course, if i cant forsee a program doing what i imagine wanting it to do, i usually get discouraged.

If only i knew what johnny greenwood uses, and how he goes about using it.

 

[earthboundrec]

Beginners like me. I've been using midi since midi was cv/gate and I loooooove my Tracktion.

Thanks for giving me another reason to avoid Sweetwater, G.H.!

Dude, Tracktion 2 fuckin' rocks! I don't see how having an intuitive interface, a great MIDI editor, aux send - returns, VST and ReWire support, 64bit summing, supporting all soundcards (even my Mbox for remote recording), and a host of other very nice feature can be thought of as "for beginners". I used Pro Tools for a long time, and I thought it lacked, and could be very buggy at times. I then went on a binge trying Cubase, Audition, n-Track (all of which I bought btw, besides Cubase b/c SE came w/ my firepod) before I stumbled upon Tracktion. I've never looked back...

Also the support for Tracktion is fucking great. At the KVR forums the developers hang out there and are always open to suggestions for user updates...

I suggested that the click track should be able to be outputted to all outputs rather than just one stereo output, and from the sound of it, it should be in the next update. I've never been happier with a software purchase.

 

[earthboundrec]

thanks sccientist. my biggest problem is that my ambitions outweigh my learning resources. i know what it is i want to do, but am having a hard time learning how to get there, and am in too big of a rush to go directly to the goal.

i used to play on fruity loops, didnt much care for its simplicity. Im coming to discover that the reason i cant create simple tracks is because i wont be happy with what i create till ive created what i want to create, if that makes any sense. I guess i need to put my ambitions on the sideline and make some cheesy crappy music to get the hang of it. Of course, if i cant forsee a program doing what i imagine wanting it to do, i usually get discouraged.

If only i knew what johnny greenwood uses, and how he goes about using it.

I think Mr. Greenwood uses a lot of old school samplers and a Korg KAOS pad. And a telecaster of course. There's a Yahoo news group called Radiohead Gear, where the sole topic of discussion is what gear Radiohead uses... you might want to sign up for it.