acidrock
GO PACKERS!
Okay it's time to put this baby to bed....
dachay2tnr
One Hit Wonder
Hi, my name is Mike.
Hi, Mike
I used to use the Console View. < hangs head > Sometimes I'd use it a lot.
I mean, there were days when I would be at work just thinking about 5:00 pm, when I could rush home, boot the computer and gaze at that beautiful thing.
We're here for you, Mike.
Pretty soon that was all I thought about. Sometimes I'd even crank 'er up before I'd even left for work in the morning.
Then I began skipping work entirely. I'd just hang out in the basement pushing those faders up and down with my mouse. Pretty soon I found out you could group them, and move like 5 or 10 of them at the same time. My usage skyrocketed after that.
I thought I was so cool. <shakes head >
You weren't cool, Mike. You were addicted.
Then I went on a real binge. Four days straight with nothing but me, Sonar and a mic. Didn't even stop for food.
Wife and kids finally left me when I spent the mortgage money on the Sonar 2.0 upgrade. She tried to tell me that with Sonar I didn't need the Console View. But I wouldn't listen.
Sometimes you just have to hit bottom.
I'm pleased to say I am on the road to recovery now. I've discovered envelopes and Track View and things are looking good. I know it's one step at a time and that I'm only an icon click away from falling off the wagon. But I think I'm going to make it.
Pray for me.
Amen
Hi, Mike
I used to use the Console View. < hangs head > Sometimes I'd use it a lot.
I mean, there were days when I would be at work just thinking about 5:00 pm, when I could rush home, boot the computer and gaze at that beautiful thing.
We're here for you, Mike.
Pretty soon that was all I thought about. Sometimes I'd even crank 'er up before I'd even left for work in the morning.
Then I began skipping work entirely. I'd just hang out in the basement pushing those faders up and down with my mouse. Pretty soon I found out you could group them, and move like 5 or 10 of them at the same time. My usage skyrocketed after that.
I thought I was so cool. <shakes head >
You weren't cool, Mike. You were addicted.
Then I went on a real binge. Four days straight with nothing but me, Sonar and a mic. Didn't even stop for food.
Wife and kids finally left me when I spent the mortgage money on the Sonar 2.0 upgrade. She tried to tell me that with Sonar I didn't need the Console View. But I wouldn't listen.
Sometimes you just have to hit bottom.
I'm pleased to say I am on the road to recovery now. I've discovered envelopes and Track View and things are looking good. I know it's one step at a time and that I'm only an icon click away from falling off the wagon. But I think I'm going to make it.
Pray for me.
Amen
V
vicevursa
New member
I used to use the console view because I thought it was cool, and therefore I would, too, be cool. It made me look like a recoding genius even though my tracks still sounded like crap.
After coming to this BBS, I found the console view was viewed with disdain. And because I am a follower, I switched to the track view. I now know the true power of Sonar is held in the Track view. I have found my religion in the Track view.
My tracks still sound like crap. But, now, I can control how much crap goes through the mains. Plus, now, I feel a true part of AcKUS.
I haven't yet earned my big letter "C", I am still not cool, but the track view is!
I still open the console view to impress my 3 non-musical friends and my mom.
Thanks for letting me ramble,
Vice
After coming to this BBS, I found the console view was viewed with disdain. And because I am a follower, I switched to the track view. I now know the true power of Sonar is held in the Track view. I have found my religion in the Track view.
My tracks still sound like crap. But, now, I can control how much crap goes through the mains. Plus, now, I feel a true part of AcKUS.
I haven't yet earned my big letter "C", I am still not cool, but the track view is!
I still open the console view to impress my 3 non-musical friends and my mom.
Thanks for letting me ramble,
Vice
guitar ed
New member
I think it would be great for final mixing, if it wasn't so damned UGLY !! I don't like to gaze at it, in fact, there's another thread on here where I was asking questions about what you could and couldn't do in there. So, honestly I don't use it. Have you seen the mixer view in Samplitude? Now THAT'S a dadburn mixer!! I think it would be worth the money to go to a multiple monitor setup just to spread that baby out!! Of course, when I was noodling with the demo, I couldn't find a damn thing in there, but boy was it pretty!!
I say leave the console view where it is. Those who like it, use it. Those who don't, don't. It has to remain a vesatile program, capable of fitting everyone's individual needs. I mean, I'm a guitar player, but I don't mess with that tablature stuff that you can do in there. And with the exception of James (Argo), I'll bet almost nobody uses the staff view!! That's way too nerdy!!! (Sorry, James!!)
Maybe James doesn't use the staff view, but he is the reputed king of orchestral soundscapes, right???
There's my .02
ed
I say leave the console view where it is. Those who like it, use it. Those who don't, don't. It has to remain a vesatile program, capable of fitting everyone's individual needs. I mean, I'm a guitar player, but I don't mess with that tablature stuff that you can do in there. And with the exception of James (Argo), I'll bet almost nobody uses the staff view!! That's way too nerdy!!! (Sorry, James!!)
Maybe James doesn't use the staff view, but he is the reputed king of orchestral soundscapes, right??? There's my .02
ed
A1A2
New member
Console view?? what? who? where?
i never mess with that baby
Al
i never mess with that baby
Al
Middleman
Professional Amateur
Started out in 8th grade with a few of my friends on analog gear. First it was just for fun mabye one or two tracks at a time. Over the years my habit grew. By the time I left high school I was up to 8 tracks at a time with effects on a real console. Sheesh what a habit. In college I moved up to the big stuff, 16 then 24 tracks console. Sliders moving all the time, multiple busses, then EQ. I knew I had gone over the edge when I started mainlining Parametrics and Multiband compressors. I had to have more tracks. Automation made things worse. I could forget about some of my tracks letting them move on their own and concentrate on what.... more tracks and synched tape machines.
When digital came along I moved right into Console view in Cakewalk 3. I've been hooked since the early 90s dragging all my bad habits with me. Point and click, chasing automation that had gone bad. A few months ago I was at the end of my rope. Strung out on bad tunes that never seem to sound right, still trying to make old rituals on analog gear transfer into a digital realm.
Then I came across a dachay2tnr thread. He was talking about the merits of the Track view. It was hard at first but slowly overtime I weaned myself from the hell that was console view. Now I have seen the light. Mixes go faster, I concentrate on the sound and not moving lights and meters. And you know what I've found? Mixes sound better in Track view. Yeah they do! Go ahead and try it yourself.
Reformed console user..MM
When digital came along I moved right into Console view in Cakewalk 3. I've been hooked since the early 90s dragging all my bad habits with me. Point and click, chasing automation that had gone bad. A few months ago I was at the end of my rope. Strung out on bad tunes that never seem to sound right, still trying to make old rituals on analog gear transfer into a digital realm.
Then I came across a dachay2tnr thread. He was talking about the merits of the Track view. It was hard at first but slowly overtime I weaned myself from the hell that was console view. Now I have seen the light. Mixes go faster, I concentrate on the sound and not moving lights and meters. And you know what I've found? Mixes sound better in Track view. Yeah they do! Go ahead and try it yourself.
Reformed console user..MM
Toki987
Rock Steady
oh yeah... console view. I remember that now. Although after Uncle Mike`s tutoring I had completely forgotten about that view.. 
To me console view is like tits on a man. They look ok and break up that wide expance of skin, but aint worth shit for anything except to look at. If I need the knob rush, I just reach over and fondle the Tascam.
To me console view is like tits on a man. They look ok and break up that wide expance of skin, but aint worth shit for anything except to look at. If I need the knob rush, I just reach over and fondle the Tascam.
Paul881
Look Mom, I can play!
Toki987 wrote:
To me console view is like tits on a man. They look ok and break up that wide expance of skin, but aint worth shit for anything except to look at. If I need the knob rush, I just reach over and fondle the Tascam.
Read this and nearly spat my morning coffee out. Very funny
Mike, I can't believe you have fessed up to all that "past"
Of course, I have never ever used the Console view
Why is that Paul?
Cos I'm a liar
To me console view is like tits on a man. They look ok and break up that wide expance of skin, but aint worth shit for anything except to look at. If I need the knob rush, I just reach over and fondle the Tascam.
Read this and nearly spat my morning coffee out. Very funny
Mike, I can't believe you have fessed up to all that "past"
Of course, I have never ever used the Console view
Why is that Paul?
Cos I'm a liar
moskus
The Creator of Æ, Ø and Å
I've been waiting for this poll for the last 5 months...
But come on, acidrock. I like the Track View too. Couldn't live without it! Where's the choice for the combination?!?
But come on, acidrock. I like the Track View too. Couldn't live without it! Where's the choice for the combination?!?
acidrock
GO PACKERS!
moskus said:I've been waiting for this poll for the last 5 months...
But come on, acidrock. I like the Track View too. Couldn't live without it! Where's the choice for the combination?!?
That would be "can't we all just get along?"
moskus
The Creator of Æ, Ø and Å
Okay, that was the final proof that I'm stoooopid. Oh well...acidrock said:
Pedullist
Stop it, I can't breathe
The funny thing is: the Console View in SONAR is JUST AS UGLY AND UNUSABLE AS THE CONSOLE VIEW IN HS2002
moskus
The Creator of Æ, Ø and Å
You guys have no clue. The Console View to help you, but you need to be a smart guy to use it...Pedullist said:
Pedullist
Stop it, I can't breathe
Ever tried to use the Console View with 70+ trackrecordings? (my average)
You need a 41" inch screen for that! Or a couple of monitors....but what's the use?
'Horizontal' is my fave position anyway....
You need a 41" inch screen for that! Or a couple of monitors....but what's the use?
'Horizontal' is my fave position anyway....
moskus
The Creator of Æ, Ø and Å
You know you can scroll the Consolve View too, right?Pedullist said:
70+ tracks?!? What are you making?
Pedullist
Stop it, I can't breathe
I hate scrolling....
70+ tracks is my average...most of what I've posted is around 70 tracks.
70+ tracks is my average...most of what I've posted is around 70 tracks.
moskus
The Creator of Æ, Ø and Å
Then how do you fit 70 tracks into the Track View?Pedullist said:
Pedullist
Stop it, I can't breathe
I can't....and I hate that. I always discover new tracks when I start scrolling down....(What? When did I record this? And wow, it's amazing too! How will I ever mix this monster?!)
moskus
The Creator of Æ, Ø and Å
I don't even see how I would keep "track" 
D) 70 tracks... I think 32 is much.
D) 70 tracks... I think 32 is much.
dachay2tnr
One Hit Wonder
You have to remember that Pedulist doesn't use Autotune. So he probably sings the song 69 times, takes one on-key note from each take, and then uses Track 70 to patch together his vocal track.
Hmmm.... I guess that sometimes he includes drums, bass and guitar as well.