XHipHop
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Nathan, do the OSA modules fit into an Aphex Lunchbox?
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Recording Engineer
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Bstage said:
No. You don't get increased headroom. You get a "color"; some more noticeable than others.
longsoughtfor
Searching for the sound
We are selling a these for $2100 with the power supply:
http://www.longsoughtfor.org/postn/html/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=8
Not exactly under $1500 but a close ballpark.
Kevin.
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Scott S.
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On the idea of just abritrarily adding transformers to the output of this or that preamp, there are some cautions.
Hooking a 1:1 transformer onto an RC coupled active balanced output or unbalanced output can sometimes cause strange response peaks in the subsonic range, which can make for flabby sounding bass.
I have personally seen this with a Jensen JT-11FMCF 1:1 trans driven off a cap coupled NE5532 with 10 uF output cap. When I changed the cap to 100 uF was basically eliminated (very hard to see on the scope), and changing the circuit to DC coupled (add a servo) as Jensen recommends completely eliminates it. The techs at JEnsen confirm the behavior, its an RLC tuned circuit effect, and will happen with all transformers, not just Jensens, and what freq is dependent on the R (output impedance of driver), C (coupling cap size), and L (primary inductance of transformer).
The point is just inserting transformers can have unintended consequences. Cap size, series resistance, opamp specs will all impact this.
Hooking a 1:1 transformer onto an RC coupled active balanced output or unbalanced output can sometimes cause strange response peaks in the subsonic range, which can make for flabby sounding bass.
I have personally seen this with a Jensen JT-11FMCF 1:1 trans driven off a cap coupled NE5532 with 10 uF output cap. When I changed the cap to 100 uF was basically eliminated (very hard to see on the scope), and changing the circuit to DC coupled (add a servo) as Jensen recommends completely eliminates it. The techs at JEnsen confirm the behavior, its an RLC tuned circuit effect, and will happen with all transformers, not just Jensens, and what freq is dependent on the R (output impedance of driver), C (coupling cap size), and L (primary inductance of transformer).
The point is just inserting transformers can have unintended consequences. Cap size, series resistance, opamp specs will all impact this.
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Recording Engineer
Moderator
I just wanted to update the above...
I have since found-out the above data on the DaviSound "Mic-All" preamp is incorrect. It is +32dBu and NOT dBV as previously thought. The quoted dBV figure is based on the old designation before replacing it with dBu to aviod confusion.
I have since found-out the above data on the DaviSound "Mic-All" preamp is incorrect. It is +32dBu and NOT dBV as previously thought. The quoted dBV figure is based on the old designation before replacing it with dBu to aviod confusion.
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Recording Engineer
Moderator
I suppose it should also be noted that headroom can easily change a couple dB depending on load.
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Bstage
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Recording Engineer said:
ohhhhh.... Color.... Are these interchangeable.???????
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Recording Engineer
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Are what interchangeable?
Teacher
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Bstage said:
color and headroom or not interchangeable
color is more or less the 'flavor' of the sound
and headroom is how loud you can go before audible distortion
a simplistic explanation someone else can probably get more technical if you need it
R
Recording Engineer
Moderator
Well, it looks like you answered your own question.
Obviously, color and headroom are NOT interchangeable.
Obviously, color and headroom are NOT interchangeable.
Son of Mixerman
Mix Junior
Wow... I was sure that this was going to be, just about everything under $1500 was going to be colored therefore a trick question?
Heh heh
SoMm
Heh heh
SoMm
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Bstage
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Recording Engineer said:
So I presume the units are soldered into the preamp... I didn't think I answered my own question...
Nevermind... Ill most likely just buy a different unit to add to this little guy....
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Recording Engineer
Moderator
Oh... Sorry... I just now realized you it wasn't you who answered your question... For some reason I thought it was you who answered question, not Teacher! Doh!
Anyway, no. They wouldn't be soldered in, as the RNP wouldn't have enough room... You'd probably want to make a 4-ch. or 2 2-ch. break-out box(s) of some-sort.
Anyway, no. They wouldn't be soldered in, as the RNP wouldn't have enough room... You'd probably want to make a 4-ch. or 2 2-ch. break-out box(s) of some-sort.
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mike@THE CAVE
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i would check out the sebatron 4000e
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The Garage
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atlas said:
Why would you want to do this? What would it do to the sound? What are the pros to this setup?
-teddy
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Dot
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John, I'd go with something like the Vintech Dual 72 $1250 and an FRM RNP $450. That's 4 channel of colored pres for $1700.
I agree with Nathan that it's better to get two really good pres rather than four. That's why I put more money into the Vintech with less in the RNP - rather than four equally priced pres per channel.
The TL Audio 5001 Quad Valve Preamp is a cool 4-channel colored pre for $600 - but it's not in the league with the Vintech.
Dan Richards
Digital Pro Sound
The Listening Sessions
I agree with Nathan that it's better to get two really good pres rather than four. That's why I put more money into the Vintech with less in the RNP - rather than four equally priced pres per channel.
The TL Audio 5001 Quad Valve Preamp is a cool 4-channel colored pre for $600 - but it's not in the league with the Vintech.
Dan Richards
Digital Pro Sound
The Listening Sessions
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Solafide
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Dot,
How would you rate the spl goldmike?
Is it in the sme league as some of the $1000 options out there?
How would you rate the spl goldmike?
Is it in the sme league as some of the $1000 options out there?
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littledog
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Speaking of colored, anyone here had a chance to try the Chandler dual mic pre that goes for about $1600? Looks very interesting...