Check Out These Mp3's From Alternative Rock Solo Artist Jesse Michael Garcia In Utah

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lol...he's older than you are, Vestast. I'm assuming midlife crisis is responsible for 90% of this thread. Quit feeding the trolls already. :D
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Quite obviously your ears are different..... you call them standards as if somehow they are superior - I disagree......I don't happen to think U2 or Soundgarden mixes are particularly good examples of good-sounding audio... personally, I'm more partial to the Steely Dan, XTC, and Diana Krall sound in terms of mix/sonic quality, far superior to U2's productions in my opinion.
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dont get me wrong... i can appreciate many things. i thought the production on diana kralls's CD "when i look in your eyes" was great. very rich, pure tones. its beautiful. i think most people can agree though that U2's production is stellar. look who they have working for them... daniel lanois, brian eno, steve lillywhite and flood, though flood did much more engineering and mixing. i dont think that you can get much better than those guys. i would be curious to know how you feel about their production techniques.
 
borntoplease said:
dont get me wrong... i can appreciate many things. i thought the production on diana kralls's CD "when i look in your eyes" was great. very rich, pure tones. its beautiful. i think most people can agree though that U2's production is stellar. look who they have working for them... daniel lanois, brian eno, steve lillywhite and flood, though flood did much more engineering and mixing. i dont think that you can get much better than those guys. i would be curious to know how you feel about their production techniques.
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I'm not saying Lanois, Eno, et al, aren't talented - nor are my comments a knock against their work. It's just that I don't care for the way their final sound ends up.

There are plenty of commerical releases that I like to listen to, but don't care for the sound quality of -- U2's WAR for example. Is it appropriate for the style of the band? absolutely... does it rock? you bet... Is it high-fidelity? no way.... Do I like it? sure, but I think it could have sounded better....

You commented earlier that you thought my mixes had too much "space" (and phrased it as if that characteristic were a negative!) - that's very funny because that's EXACTLY what I WANT to hear in a mix - some space and air around the tracks.

No - that sound is not for everyone, but I produce based on MY sense audio ethics and no one else's (obviously). Much like every other pro engineer - each one has "their sound" or sonic preferences and like it or not, they bias their audio decisions based upon it.

There are certain types of music I won't touch in the studio primarily because I don't think I can give my clients what they're looking for - ie, their idea of the overall production doesn't match mine.

You don't like MY sound? That's perfectly fine with me - not everyone has the same tastes, so it's quite expected. Based upon that, you'd also be someone I'd refuse to take on as a client, since your audio ethic is apparently so different.

But that's all part of musicians finding the right studio and engineer/producer to work with.
 
jessegarcia said:
Some of you need to get with the times and realize that sonically we are in a different age.

blah...blah...blah...

The legend grows {stupider}...
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I was about to reply when I noticed Vestast's comments above... I second what he said...

Clearly Garcia is as clueless about sound engineering as he is about musical talent... :rolleyes:
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
too much "space" (and phrased it as if that characteristic were a negative!) - that's very funny because that's EXACTLY what I WANT to hear in a mix - some space and air around the tracks.
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This is the very thing I've been desperately working on myself. Slowly getting there. I don't like it when everything sounds like 1 big lump of sound. If you have any tips to help achieve such results (other than the very obvious things) please share. Maybe we can turn this thread into something productive. :D



On second thought. Screw it. I like the way this thread makes my ass feel.
 
So ... I don't know what I am talking about huh?

Take a listen to almost every cd that is selling in pop, rock, dance, electronica, rap, punk, or any other style of music and you will see a marked difference in the tones and frequencies between now and yester-year. I personally love the sound quality that Steely Dan achieved. So what? I don't hear anything being mixed like that today. That doesn't mean the music is better today for sure, just that the sound quality, (yes sound quality), has improved in most cases. If you think that no new sounds have been created in the last thirty years, you are the one who is out of your mind. In regards to frequencies; a better thing for me to say would be that certain frequencies have never been utilized in music until more recently. Although, ... some parts of the universe are divulging new and exciting information that may change what are considered "known frequencies"; but that is another story ... (Check out www.mkaku.com). As far as squashing the mix goes, I do agree that some recordings are definately too hot or loud, but once again so what? Results don't lie- the millions of people "into" today's sound can't all be wrong when it comes to their own preferences right? The technically based upbringing that initiated the social evolution of musical acceptance by younger genrations and the financial profits from the said material affirm this in a most dramatic and telling way. Some of you really need to listen to something besides the genre you are used to, even if you don't like the music. And please don't base what your saying off of the "everything on the radio sucks" point of view; it is really quite ignorant and most probably rooted in jealousy anyway.

You know, the same negative jibberish was probably spouted off by the original generation of engineer's to the people doing the recording for Steely Dan or other bands of that time period. How many years will go by before you acknowledge, and give credit to, anything beyond your "glory years" when you initially formed your opinions?


I do agree that a midlife-crisis epidemic is occuring on this site. It's time to shake things up a bit ...


Any comments on the two new older songs that I posted would be appreciated. Thank you for your time and attention.







The man.


The truth.


The legend.






Jesse Michael Garcia.
 
vestast said:
WTF is that ? Have new frequencies been invented in the past 10 years that I haven't heard of ?
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I had my dog listen to the tracks. He bit me!
 
The fact that millions of people like something doesn't in and of itself mean that what they like is "good"
Look at MP3s ......... millions of people today like to only listen to MP3s because of convenience and such. But there's no way that MP3s are an improvement in sound ......... quite the reverse ...... they are a lesser quality sound.
in fact ......... the idea that sound has improved recently is not true. the truth is ....... sound quality has declined for the last 20 years. Nowadays ........ most people whose homes I go into ( I'm a piano tuner) think a boombox is a completely satisfactory system. I rarely see a nice component system anymore and yet even Jesse couldn't claim that boomboxes are a superior playback system. But people don't really care ...... they want convenience above all ....... and they have a right to make that choice ....... but don't try to claim that because they've gone in that direction, that's proof that sound quality is better ........ it's not.
 
That raises a fundemental question; Is more better? Any recording techniques or sounds from let's say before the 80's can be duplicated. The same cannot be said for the equipment, or most engineeer's skills for that matter, from bygone era's if they were somehow to be brought to the present day. The amount of options has increased. Does this in of itself mean that sound qualities are better in today's world? Some would say so ...

... And what of the opinions of people raised during or after the 80's? Growing up with all different aspects of projected music, from each era of recorded music to draw their opinions from, seems as if it would make for a broader scope of understanding. For the most part you old-timers cannot, and would not, even listen to something "new" in tone or projection method; due to the jealousy and fear that invades most of your thought's as you begin to comprehend your own limitations and even mortality. The youth of today are much more open-minded in regards to opinions about art of all kinds than even you older "hippie-types". You see, in their minds they can live forever and anything is possible; so, they are much more likely to experience and know a larger amount of information just from the amount of input they willingly receive.

Now it's time for a reality check. Is your opinion of sound quality based on facts, or whymsical notions about your past?
 
jessegarcia said:
Results don't lie- the millions of people "into" today's sound can't all be wrong when it comes to their own preferences right
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So, using your logic then all these people that say your music sucks can't be wrong. So, I guess it sucks.
 
This fucking thread is STILL running???? :eek: Jeezus Kee-rist!!!
 
jessegarcia said:
... And what of the opinions of people raised during or after the 80's? Growing up with all different aspects of projected music, from each era of recorded music to draw their opinions from, seems as if it would make for a broader scope of understanding. For the most part you old-timers cannot, and would not, even listen to something "new" in tone or projection method; due to the jealousy and fear that invades most of your thought's as you begin to comprehend your own limitations and even mortality. The youth of today are much more open-minded in regards to opinions about art of all kinds than even you older "hippie-types". You see, in their minds they can live forever and anything is possible; so, they are much more likely to experience and know a larger amount of information just from the amount of input they willingly receive.

Now it's time for a reality check. Is your opinion of sound quality based on facts, or whymsical notions about your past?
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Why is it that you think all these people on this board are all old hippies that don't know shit? Is it because they don't like your music that you've come to the conclusion that they are all too old to understand. And how the fuck do you know that fear and jealousy invades most of our thoughts? You don't know any of these people here, and that seems to be a pretty bold statement.



jessegarcia said:
so, they are much more likely to experience and know a larger amount of information just from the amount of input they willingly receive
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And man, is that a crock of shit. You don't seem very willing to receive input from anyone around here. Only those that agree with you. Which aren't many. Just how old are you? You must be just a punk kid to be spouting shit like this.
 
I Have Seen The Light!!!

I Bow down on my knees and prey to the great LORD GARCIA that I be blessed with such musical talent.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I listened to about 3 seconds of you lied to me before I got well bored. Seriously, it sounds a little bit like a mix of a really rubbish garage band playing next door and someone making love to a gramophone while playing an offspring record. Did you ever end up answering Chris's question (I got bored reading all the posts)? All music talent or lack there of aside are you actually happy with the recording quality?
 
If I were in the minds of millions I would be content; for an instant
anyway ...

You know ... Some of you are really ruining the moment. I use words like "some" or "most" because they are not all-inclusive. HINT HINT. If you want to heckle and finally kill my stand-up routine, then I am going to have to ask security to remove you ...

I have a song called "Old And Wise"; mabye I will post it so you can understand my views on aging a little better ...

For now just know one thing. Aging is in most cases only a state of mind. I will be, in my mind at least; forever young and inquisitive.

Yes, I do believe that the more information you posses and process about a subject, the better your opinion of that subject will be. But hey ... That's just me ...



...And if you hate me so much why do you keep coming back?


Can some of you morons PLEASE stop checking out the internet porn and go get a real girlfriend? (Or a boyfriend?) Some of you are so uptight! You need to relax a little ... seriously ...
 
jessegarcia said:
Yes, I do believe that the more information you posses and process about a subject, the better your opinion of that subject will be. But hey ... That's just me ...
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That explains much... since your knowledge of both musicality and audio engineering is so limited, your lack of credible opinion on either subject is quite clear. :rolleyes:
 
No, I am not content with my current sound quality. That's why I ask for opinions and try to improve the sound quality, and yes even the performances, on each of my recordings. This is why I have posted a few older things; to show that I have progressed at least somewhat, and intend to do so again. I do listen to every bit of advice and will use some of it the in the future. Time will tell though, won't it ...
 
It must really, REALLY, irritate some of you that you can't even pay someone to listen to you, or any music that you have recorded so very well ... Yet here I am, with my lack of talent and credibility, showing you up in such a big way.

As Nelson on the Simpsons so gracefully put's it; ... "HA HA!"

Shoudn't some of you be working on those oh-so-big client list's that you supposedly have?


Fuck it; one more time ...


HA! HA!



The legend continues ...
 
jessegarcia said:
Yet here I am, with my lack of talent and credibility, showing you up in such a big way.
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uh... did I miss something? You're showing WHO up, exactly? Hard to conceive of how some talentless windbag throwing shit around can show anybody up!!
 
jessegarcia said:
It must really, REALLY, irritate some of you that you can't even pay someone to listen to you
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OK, I'll take you up on this.

In 1989 I recorded two dormmates and myself, two classical guitars and a tenor (pretty good one, music major). We improvised guitar parts sung to randomly selected Psalms, recorded on a boom box. It's about 30 minutes in total.

How much do I have to pay to get you to listen to the whole thing? Let's negotiate. Here are my terms:

1) You must indicate your completion of the task by posting comments on at least every minute of the piece. Vocab test rules apply, so you can't say "At 1:35 of Psalm 19, that really sucked!", you have to say "At 1:35 of Psalm 19, the breaking of the singer's voice on the line "Moreover by them is thy servant warned" combined with the slap-style arpeggio in juxtaposition with the other guitar strumming in an unrelated key was so cacophonically jarring that it sucked!"

OK, I guess that was the only term. How much would that cost?
 
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