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Harvey Gerst
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The MXL 1006P can be battery operated.ausrock said:In regard to "on board" power...........to my knowledge, none of the current crop of Chinese LD mics have a facility for batteries.
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acorec
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GoMano said:
Great. Based on this one post, I would like to take 2 of them off of your hands right now. I know a great thing when I see it.
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acorec
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GoMano said:
You, sir, are a joke. There is no-one more respectfull than Harvy. You have no idea as to whom you are talking about. I find your posts to be pure spam and your mic knowledge to be sub-newbie at best. You have no 40 albums except in your CD collection.
This has been done before and gets tiring.
Go away.
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GoMano
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How did a post about mics turn into such angry, vitriolic mudslinging? You don't know me dude - and while I'm sure Harvey - obviously extremely knowledgable - is a great guy, who is he, your dad?
I am supremely sorry for causing such anger and finger wagging - everything I said about the S.E. mics is true - and I in fact have MORE than 40 albums to my name - but that's moot - I only mentioned our respective credit - his more than mine - to lend some creedence to the review.
As for me, since in your omnipotence you are so sure I am an imposter/loudmouth guy who's full of crap: - my name is Robb Howell. I presently produce music for Sony and Sony PlaysStation2 Games. The most recent one released is called "Twisted Metal 2" I used to play with Bill Ward (Black Sabbath) and have recorded 21 albums of my own or as a guest including Mahogany Rush, The RH Factor, Irish, Paul Williams (Allan Holdsworth) and much too many to rename here (I did in the first post) . I have recorded and produced music for several feature films and recently starred in a film with Sean Young, Sally Kirkland & Dianne Ladd called "Forever". I have toured with Foghat, The Outlaws, Mahogany Rush, and appeared live with bassist Stanley Clarke, Sergio Mendez, The Rippingtons and Diane Shuur. I'm 42 years old and have been recording albums since I was 15. I have been on a U.S. Major since I was 21. I have two kids and a wife who is also a well known recording artist (but we'll leave her out of this - don't want mud at her) I joined this forum to share recording experiences and ideas with other people, soemthing I absolutely LOVE doing - and I WILL NOT go away, especialy because of some presumptuous, judgemental little guy's emotional defensiveness and indictment of someone he doesn't know at all. It is so easy to judge on the internet - people like you form these cursory opinions about others without the benefit of a query or anything else-FROM ONE POST!
This Harvey dude would have gotten straght answers had he not initially done what you did (just milder) - Had he asked his questions about qualiftying myself as "okay - how did you guys do it" instead of the coy "And you would be?" stuff I wouldn't have reacted - but he was wagging fingers too. Why? It was a review of a MICROPHONE - I thought this was a group of professionals - it's usually Non-professionals who get so heated when someone makes claims like I did - I did so to lend credibility to the greatness of the mics I was talking about and not just blowing smoke..
Sorry to offend you - but I didn't deserve the blast dude. I understand the skepticism people feel when a guy says "I did this and that" - but all you need do is ask instead of INDICT -and btw - I am VERY proud of my accomplishments - I worked very hard to achieve them, and I am exceptionaly outgoing when helping people do the same. You don't know me, and you should apologize. You would more than anything find a friend than a foe.
How did a post about mics turn into such angry, vitriolic mudslinging? You don't know me dude - and while I'm sure Harvey - obviously extremely knowledgable - is a great guy, who is he, your dad?
I am supremely sorry for causing such anger and finger wagging - everything I said about the S.E. mics is true - and I in fact have MORE than 40 albums to my name - but that's moot - I only mentioned our respective credit - his more than mine - to lend some creedence to the review.
As for me, since in your omnipotence you are so sure I am an imposter/loudmouth guy who's full of crap: - my name is Robb Howell. I presently produce music for Sony and Sony PlaysStation2 Games. The most recent one released is called "Twisted Metal 2" I used to play with Bill Ward (Black Sabbath) and have recorded 21 albums of my own or as a guest including Mahogany Rush, The RH Factor, Irish, Paul Williams (Allan Holdsworth) and much too many to rename here (I did in the first post) . I have recorded and produced music for several feature films and recently starred in a film with Sean Young, Sally Kirkland & Dianne Ladd called "Forever". I have toured with Foghat, The Outlaws, Mahogany Rush, and appeared live with bassist Stanley Clarke, Sergio Mendez, The Rippingtons and Diane Shuur. I'm 42 years old and have been recording albums since I was 15. I have been on a U.S. Major since I was 21. I have two kids and a wife who is also a well known recording artist (but we'll leave her out of this - don't want mud at her) I joined this forum to share recording experiences and ideas with other people, soemthing I absolutely LOVE doing - and I WILL NOT go away, especialy because of some presumptuous, judgemental little guy's emotional defensiveness and indictment of someone he doesn't know at all. It is so easy to judge on the internet - people like you form these cursory opinions about others without the benefit of a query or anything else-FROM ONE POST!
This Harvey dude would have gotten straght answers had he not initially done what you did (just milder) - Had he asked his questions about qualiftying myself as "okay - how did you guys do it" instead of the coy "And you would be?" stuff I wouldn't have reacted - but he was wagging fingers too. Why? It was a review of a MICROPHONE - I thought this was a group of professionals - it's usually Non-professionals who get so heated when someone makes claims like I did - I did so to lend credibility to the greatness of the mics I was talking about and not just blowing smoke..
Sorry to offend you - but I didn't deserve the blast dude. I understand the skepticism people feel when a guy says "I did this and that" - but all you need do is ask instead of INDICT -and btw - I am VERY proud of my accomplishments - I worked very hard to achieve them, and I am exceptionaly outgoing when helping people do the same. You don't know me, and you should apologize. You would more than anything find a friend than a foe.
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chessrock
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Hey Robb,
I wouldn't be particularly concerned over something Acorec says.
He's sort of the resident wind bag / nut job . . . can be frequently seen howling at the moon or talking to himself outside the homeless shelter when he's not making useless posts.
Harvey, on the other hand, is a pretty sharp guy. Accomplished; has some credentials and gobs of experience. I'd just assume you rubbed him the wrong way on the wrong day. No biggie. Feel free to contribute to the board; just watch out for the spammity-spam. You don't want to find yourself on the wrong end of a spam cop's nightstick!
Bill Ward, eh. That's pretty cool. I love that guy. One of the more under-rated rock drummers. He obviously gets locked in to the whole "metal" stereotype, but I always liked how well that guy can groove -- good sense of timing and almost a jazz feel to the way he plays sometimes.
I wouldn't be particularly concerned over something Acorec says.
He's sort of the resident wind bag / nut job . . . can be frequently seen howling at the moon or talking to himself outside the homeless shelter when he's not making useless posts.
Harvey, on the other hand, is a pretty sharp guy. Accomplished; has some credentials and gobs of experience. I'd just assume you rubbed him the wrong way on the wrong day. No biggie. Feel free to contribute to the board; just watch out for the spammity-spam. You don't want to find yourself on the wrong end of a spam cop's nightstick!
Bill Ward, eh. That's pretty cool. I love that guy. One of the more under-rated rock drummers. He obviously gets locked in to the whole "metal" stereotype, but I always liked how well that guy can groove -- good sense of timing and almost a jazz feel to the way he plays sometimes.
freshmattyp
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In hindsight, it might have gone better if your most recent post had been your first. There is a long and glorious history of spamming this forum with unsubstantiated BS, and people are pretty touchy about that subject.
That being said, welcome to the board Robb.
That being said, welcome to the board Robb.
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GoMano
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Thanks! I was dreading looking at what anyone wrote - in fact I wanted to delete the last one, just because I didn't want folks to go "oh what crap and pompousness" - but your post is refreshing - I have nothing to prove man - yeah - this dude seems a little antagonistic - but I'll give him the benefit of any doubt - I hope he just says sorry -
Anyway - not to change the mic subject - but I actually did another album with Bill (not the Bill Ward Album - a solo album) and we actually played fusion music - sorta like Tony Williams Lifetime w/ Holdsworth - in fact, Paul Williams (Allan's vocalist) was our singer! Bill was (is) so prolific a drummer & writer - he deserves more credit and accoldaes as an amazing musician.
Thanks again for your kind post! I hope nobody really gets pissed at my posts - it's all about the music. "Harvey" reminds me of a guy I know in Belgium who does mods on ADK Mics named J.P - extremely knowledgable about mics - and what I say about the S.E mics is all true.
Please - we should keep this thread on mics - anybody else can email me if you need to say anything mean or nice: www.peace-machine.com
Anyway - see ya
PS: What's a "Spam Cop?"
chessrock said:Hey Robb,
I wouldn't be particularly concerned over something Acorec says.
He's sort of the resident wind bag / nut job . . . can be frequently seen howling at the moon or talking to himself outside the homeless shelter when he's not making useless posts.
Harvey, on the other hand, is a pretty sharp guy. Accomplished; has some credentials and gobs of experience. I'd just assume you rubbed him the wrong way on the wrong day. No biggie. Feel free to contribute to the board; just watch out for the spammity-spam. You don't want to find yourself on the wrong end of a spam cop's nightstick!
Bill Ward, eh. That's pretty cool. I love that guy. One of the more under-rated rock drummers. He obviously gets locked in to the whole "metal" stereotype, but I always liked how well that guy can groove -- good sense of timing and almost a jazz feel to the way he plays sometimes.
Thanks! I was dreading looking at what anyone wrote - in fact I wanted to delete the last one, just because I didn't want folks to go "oh what crap and pompousness" - but your post is refreshing - I have nothing to prove man - yeah - this dude seems a little antagonistic - but I'll give him the benefit of any doubt - I hope he just says sorry -
Anyway - not to change the mic subject - but I actually did another album with Bill (not the Bill Ward Album - a solo album) and we actually played fusion music - sorta like Tony Williams Lifetime w/ Holdsworth - in fact, Paul Williams (Allan's vocalist) was our singer! Bill was (is) so prolific a drummer & writer - he deserves more credit and accoldaes as an amazing musician.
Thanks again for your kind post! I hope nobody really gets pissed at my posts - it's all about the music. "Harvey" reminds me of a guy I know in Belgium who does mods on ADK Mics named J.P - extremely knowledgable about mics - and what I say about the S.E mics is all true.
Please - we should keep this thread on mics - anybody else can email me if you need to say anything mean or nice: www.peace-machine.com
Anyway - see ya
PS: What's a "Spam Cop?"
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acorec
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chessrock said:Hey Robb,
I wouldn't be particularly concerned over something Acorec says.
He's sort of the resident wind bag / nut job . . . can be frequently seen howling at the moon or talking to himself outside the homeless shelter when he's not making useless posts.
Harvey, on the other hand, is a pretty sharp guy. Accomplished; has some credentials and gobs of experience. I'd just assume you rubbed him the wrong way on the wrong day. No biggie. Feel free to contribute to the board; just watch out for the spammity-spam. You don't want to find yourself on the wrong end of a spam cop's nightstick!
Bill Ward, eh. That's pretty cool. I love that guy. One of the more under-rated rock drummers. He obviously gets locked in to the whole "metal" stereotype, but I always liked how well that guy can groove -- good sense of timing and almost a jazz feel to the way he plays sometimes.
Blow off Chessfuck. Your posts are so full of crap and wishy-washy information. You are such an expert while here. I am sure all can take your advice and have non-pro recordings as evidenced by the audio examples posted at your website. And BTW, aren't YOU the head of the spam police?
Fucking hypocrite that you are.
noisedude
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Someone who appoints themselves (in absence of moderation on this forum) to yell at people when they come on selling their gear. It is reputed (I have not seen it myself) that companies have employed flunkies to come on here and make a blanket recommendation of their brand, knowing from PMI's example that to have a good online profile can do much for your sales figures. The difference with PMI is that the president and chief designing engineer actually get their own asses on here and (certainly in recent times) don't sell their products so much as discuss and give assurances on them.
noisedude
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Guys, chill out. As funny as it is when we all get defensive and point at each other going, "Stop being so defensive", it's not always so hot. Now everyone, please, play spot the kettle.
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Big Kenny
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I didn't even say anything and I'm sorry
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Harvey Gerst
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Again, I'm sorry you feel that way and I apologize for the tone of my post, but consider this:GoMano said:
There is nothing in your profile to indicate anything about you - absolutely nothing. You posted as GoMano, never using your real name till now. You said you compared all these mics, but without any reference as to what sources or the rest of the chain. You referenced an "A-list engineer", but didn't mention his name. You said that all other mic companies use S.E. parts, even Neumann, but didn't mention a source for that claim. And finally, somebody spammed the forum a few months ago with S.E. hype.
It's not an excuse for my rude behaviour, but it might help you to understand why I appeared skeptical.
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toorglick
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I'm still skeptical.
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Big Kenny
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I'm still rude
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flatcat
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Robb - I don't post here that much (though I do elsewhere, and I'm a moderator on another BBS), but do from time to time - welcome.
You and I are the same age; you have great creds (mine are more modest - I've worked with a few name brands, but mainly with people you never heard of, singer-songwriters from NY mostly).
Not for nothing, but Harvey Gerst has been in the music industry - writing, playing, recording, producing - since you and I were still riding our tricycles. He's got more credentials than most people on most recording bulletin boards. It is a kindness that folks like him (and you) donate their time, observations and advice to those of us with less experience or fewer credentials.
Just saying. No insult intended.
As for the subject about Chinese LDCs - I've heard some I liked, some I didn't. I sold my MXL V67s, and I'm kind-of sorry I did now - I think those are really very good mics, pretty versatile. The ADK mics, some of which I think are made over there, are pretty good performers too - I have the TC51, the tube mic, and while I wouldn't stack it for tracks, it's really a good colored mic.
Personally, I have bought a bunch of Audio-Technica mics, many used, a couple new, that I think are excellent value for the money. It's just my preference to not buy Chinese so much, if I can help it. I think the AT3035 is a really nice starter condenser (though I don't like it for everything), though it's more costly than the Chinese stuff.
If you can point to some tracks done with the SE mics, I'd love to hear them. I'm always looking for something new.
You and I are the same age; you have great creds (mine are more modest - I've worked with a few name brands, but mainly with people you never heard of, singer-songwriters from NY mostly).
Not for nothing, but Harvey Gerst has been in the music industry - writing, playing, recording, producing - since you and I were still riding our tricycles.
He's got more credentials than most people on most recording bulletin boards. It is a kindness that folks like him (and you) donate their time, observations and advice to those of us with less experience or fewer credentials.Just saying. No insult intended.
As for the subject about Chinese LDCs - I've heard some I liked, some I didn't. I sold my MXL V67s, and I'm kind-of sorry I did now - I think those are really very good mics, pretty versatile. The ADK mics, some of which I think are made over there, are pretty good performers too - I have the TC51, the tube mic, and while I wouldn't stack it for tracks, it's really a good colored mic.
Personally, I have bought a bunch of Audio-Technica mics, many used, a couple new, that I think are excellent value for the money. It's just my preference to not buy Chinese so much, if I can help it. I think the AT3035 is a really nice starter condenser (though I don't like it for everything), though it's more costly than the Chinese stuff.
If you can point to some tracks done with the SE mics, I'd love to hear them. I'm always looking for something new.
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rch427
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Well! That was...educational.
I'm not sure I really belong here, seeing as I've never recorded on anything more sophisticated than my Tascam 464. Nevertheless, I appreciate the advice, and will look into the Marshall, Studio Projects, Oktava, SE and A-T mics. No doubt at least one of them will be more than sufficient for my needs.
Thanks again --
Robert
I'm not sure I really belong here, seeing as I've never recorded on anything more sophisticated than my Tascam 464. Nevertheless, I appreciate the advice, and will look into the Marshall, Studio Projects, Oktava, SE and A-T mics. No doubt at least one of them will be more than sufficient for my needs.
Thanks again --
Robert
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GoMano
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No need to apoliogize anymore man - I get it . I registered on this forum many months ago, but only posted once or twice because I started a a project. I just recently finished. I don't recall if I put any info or not in teh "profile" page. I don't generally. It was just the initiall "Oh yeah" posturing that made me defensive Harvey - I have nothing to prove to anybody; I love recording - If you must know who my partner is (he's also my children's Godfather) I'll email or PM you - you probably know him anyway so it's no biggy, but the point has nothingto do with US and everything to do with the fact that a couple of professional engineers put up a comparison of mic's against the S.E mics (mic-singular, actually) and the S.E. blew us away...that's all - it wasn't about name dropping - I just figured I'd mention a few of the artists he works with to substantiate the claim - I had NO idea it would be a wag-fest and "no way man - you liar, you only have 40 CD's in your rack" sorta BS - and actually - it's my fault, and your fault. I shouldn't have hyped it - and you shouldn't have postured the way you did initially - I would have gladly explained everything we did (he did it mostly) - I just got defensive - for that, I'm truly sorry - I would much love to start over , please.
As far as the angry guy goes - just email me man - get to know me. You'll see I'm pretty likeable and not pulling your chain..
Okay - that's it - I'm out - no more only mic talk...
IN REGARD TO THE S.E. MIC (H3500) I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE IT DURING A RAP PROJECT I AM PRODUCING IN MY STUDIO; And I have not taken it down - I used it for the principal artist - male rapper, 24, and then two female session vocalists, one a soprano, one an alto soprano - I didn't even change the pre's - just the compression. It was SO transparent. Since it's an FET mic, for just a little 2nd & 3rd -order harmonics/distortion I put a tube compressor in the channel insert of the SX-1 (but I bypassed the compressor and just used the tubes - I used an 1176 for the vocal compression right after the pre)
The mic is awesome - I am still really impressed.
Harvey Gerst said:
No need to apoliogize anymore man - I get it . I registered on this forum many months ago, but only posted once or twice because I started a a project. I just recently finished. I don't recall if I put any info or not in teh "profile" page. I don't generally. It was just the initiall "Oh yeah" posturing that made me defensive Harvey - I have nothing to prove to anybody; I love recording - If you must know who my partner is (he's also my children's Godfather) I'll email or PM you - you probably know him anyway so it's no biggy, but the point has nothingto do with US and everything to do with the fact that a couple of professional engineers put up a comparison of mic's against the S.E mics (mic-singular, actually) and the S.E. blew us away...that's all - it wasn't about name dropping - I just figured I'd mention a few of the artists he works with to substantiate the claim - I had NO idea it would be a wag-fest and "no way man - you liar, you only have 40 CD's in your rack" sorta BS - and actually - it's my fault, and your fault. I shouldn't have hyped it - and you shouldn't have postured the way you did initially - I would have gladly explained everything we did (he did it mostly) - I just got defensive - for that, I'm truly sorry - I would much love to start over , please.
As far as the angry guy goes - just email me man - get to know me. You'll see I'm pretty likeable and not pulling your chain..
Okay - that's it - I'm out - no more only mic talk...
IN REGARD TO THE S.E. MIC (H3500) I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE IT DURING A RAP PROJECT I AM PRODUCING IN MY STUDIO; And I have not taken it down - I used it for the principal artist - male rapper, 24, and then two female session vocalists, one a soprano, one an alto soprano - I didn't even change the pre's - just the compression. It was SO transparent. Since it's an FET mic, for just a little 2nd & 3rd -order harmonics/distortion I put a tube compressor in the channel insert of the SX-1 (but I bypassed the compressor and just used the tubes - I used an 1176 for the vocal compression right after the pre)
The mic is awesome - I am still really impressed.
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GoMano
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Okay - how about this:
What is the main difference between meat and fish?
If you beat your fish it would die...
OH! And I am no S.E. flunky salesman either! Just an old guitarist tryin' to sell my albums - I still have to tour just to pay my bills and get folks to buy our stuff man! It's only music for shlt's sake! Not the WWF of forums...
BTW - thanks for the welcome Freshmatt and Flatcat - hopefully all you will hear from me from now on is questions about recording and answers to otehr's questiosn...no more bagging hopefully..
Okay - how about this:
What is the main difference between meat and fish?
If you beat your fish it would die...
OH! And I am no S.E. flunky salesman either! Just an old guitarist tryin' to sell my albums - I still have to tour just to pay my bills and get folks to buy our stuff man! It's only music for shlt's sake! Not the WWF of forums...
BTW - thanks for the welcome Freshmatt and Flatcat - hopefully all you will hear from me from now on is questions about recording and answers to otehr's questiosn...no more bagging hopefully..
MISTERQCUE
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GoMano said:
But can you DJ & spit rhymes?