Bogner track sounds like SHIT

  • Thread starter Thread starter ad0lescnts
  • Start date Start date
A

ad0lescnts

New member
hey guys,
My band is laying down tracks and all we have left to do is lead guitar and vox, but the lead guitar sounds like shit. My brother, the lead guitarist, just bought a Bogner Ecstacy. You'd think "what the shit how could he get a shitty sound out of that?" as it was a $3000 amp and sounds good live and when we play together. I've tried a 57 close, far, off-axis, my v67G close, far, my oktava mc-012 close, far... BLAH... they all sound like a shitty garage band recording where some guy put a shit mic in the middle of the room. the 57 has given the *best* results but still not up to par at all. It has more highs and sounds the -=most=- crisp, but not good.
The v67 sounded as i'd expect it to sound... you know? i was just trying it.
The oktava sounded like hiss.
What do you guys suggest?? What should i try? should i look into an e609? an mxl 990? a different technique? (eh? eh?)

Thanks a lot guys,
T
 
The room may be the problem.I have found that the sound I achieve ,even when close micing my amps with a 57,changes
with different rooms.
 
It helps a lot of the cab is off the floor. I really like the Extreme Isolation headphones for placing mics on a guitar amp as you hear what the mic hears.

Steve
www.mojopie.com
 
Id double Steves comment...get the amp off the floor if at all possible...I also think that alot of the time - turning the volume down gets a great sound...for whatever reason I have a harder time getting good tracks when the amp is jacked. This prolly varies by amp - but Id at least try it..
 
sounding good on stage does not always equal good sound on a recording.

How loud is the amp? What kind of guitar is it? What kind of speakers are in the cab, vintage 30's or 70 watt celestions. What kind of shit does it sound like, thin watery or dark and muddy? What kind of tone do you want? What band or guitar player best matches the tone you have in mind.

I've found that loud amps are like drums, you need a good room and you need some distance from the amp in many cases. I like a 421 on louder guitars.

Power tube compression records much better than preamp tube distortion. Open the master all the way and dial in the gain until the power tubes start to clip. Some high gain amps just wont do this. They are so hyped on the front end that it's practically impossible to get the balance right. Depending on the amp you can open the master and then play with the treb, mid, bass controls on the amp in concert with the gain and get the right blend of front end and back end clipping.

Sometimes you have to change amps, guitars, or playing style to record. It just depends on so many variables. I'm sure your guitar player is fully capable of whatever adjustments are necessary. Good luck! RD
 
The best guitar recordings are done on 20 watt tube combos (Page, Clapton, Beck...)

Try building an isolationn cabnet like the randall and 57 off axis, or if you have a nice room 57 off axis with that v67 4 feet away.

The isolation cab works great for live stuff, try it.
 
that's interesting!
What kind of amps did Page, beck, etc. use???

I'm gonna try some of that isolation stuff right now

thanks a lot,
T
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top