BIG MIC QUESTION!!!! check it out

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jskills:

The vocals on those tracks aren't particularly good quality. I think what you're hearing (and liking) is the sound of a typical condenser with a bright high-end going directly onto digital.

Honestly, you can attain that quality with just about any condenser mic. If you like the sound of that track, I'd be inclined to buy a cheap condenser and save the rest of your money for something else interesting -- like a good book on mic-placement maybe.
 
Just a quick note.. I'm not dissing that track.. I just think the most characteristic thing about those vocals is an exaggerated high end. That's common in rap music, but I think if you do some comparison with big rap hits, you'll find that they use slightly better mics that round out the crispy "s" sounds a bit more.

Another note is that those vocals are well gated, and that contributes a lot to the big picture on that track.

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Final note, a good tube-preamp will also help round out some of those higher frequencies if you want to.. if not, use a cheap transistor pre-amp.. expensive pre's are generally considered better, but if this is the sound you're going for, you don't have to get expensive to do it. Some of the best engineers I've met break out piece of crap equipment all the time cause it happens to do something that they want to accomplish.
 
SM7b

I personally haven't used one but if you do a search on Shure SM7b you will find that a lot of people use that mic to record rap vocals. It's a mic that I will be picking up once funds become available.

$369.99 @ Music123

http://www.music123.com/Item/?itemno=17497
 
SM7b is awesome. Perfect for Rapping and it can be great for singing with the right person. I love it!!! Hopefully soon I can post one of my tracks.
 
That post suggested purchasing some low end equipment. Now and then you will find some inexpensive gear that performs well and meets your personal needs. While it will allow you to record sound, you would find that gear at a higher price point will significantly out perform inexpensive gear in a subtle way that is difficult to explain. You may find that you can not even detect these subtle differences as you may not have yet developed an ear for it. It's tempting to buy cheap, but as the old saying goes "Buy cheap, buy twice" You have to decide for yourself what you want to achieve and how much are you willing to invest in it, time and money. If you have decided to buy a particular piece of gear and want someone to tell you are making a good decision, you have to remember that the person who says "yes that is a good decision" could simply be expressing their opinion and they may be no more experienced than you.

There's my opinion, take it as you will...
 
indydisc said:

Another note is that those vocals are well gated, and that contributes a lot to the big picture on that track.
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How can you tell it's well-gated? Is there something else you'd expect to hear if the gate was off? I mean, I can hear him breath and that is probably the quietest thing you would hear, eh? Just curious. I'm looking to improve my ear.

Thanks.
 
Here are some kickin rap vocals



If you know who Stephen Hawking is, you will get a kick out of this.
 
woodzmo said:
Here are some kickin rap vocals



If you know who Stephen Hawking is, you will get a kick out of this.
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Man, I actually like that. How in the hell did he "some what" time that thing up to the track. the track was cool to. LOL

or is that some type of vocoder or something?

Malcolm
 
I have no idea how it was done, a friend of mine sent it to me.
 
malcolm123 said:
Man, I actually like that. How in the hell did he "some what" time that thing up to the track. the track was cool to. LOL

or is that some type of vocoder or something?

Malcolm
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Whoever did this probably just cut up the recording of the robotic speech and scooted it around in their sequencer. It probably took him/her a long time, but there's nothing magic about it.
 
Be careful what you ask for...

Jskillz,

Since you said you're getting a blue tube from a friend, I assume it's not cutting into your "Christmas Microphone Money." Don't bother even killing yourself trying to figure out what a
DMP-3 is, the Presonus will do you just fine - and not just cuz you're a new jack. As the years go by, you may end up holding onto it simply because YOU like it, as someone alluded to earlier. It will serve your current purposes just fine. In time, if you find you don't like it, then let me be the first to welcome you to the world of "lateral movement is a matter of taste." Use the blue tube, it actually has presets on it that will help you get immediate results, and give you a great jumping off place to actually begin to understand what the hell all those knobs, numbers, and pretty flashing lights are. If you're feeling game, then by all means try to trade or sell it and get something else. I'm just not sure it'll matter now, and when it finally does, you'll hopefully be in a much better place as far as choosing what'll work best for you.

Christmas Mic --------> do a search in the mic forum here for mics under $300.00 (or $200.00, etc). Also try a search in the same place using the names of the various mics you're interested in. I dunno how much going to a music store to audition mics will help you, since you as yet have no point of reference, and won't yet be able to discern what you think from what the sales rep is coerecing you to think. Just as well to take your chances with the advice you get from here, I think. Since Lost Studios can kinda vouch for GC in Manhattan, take your chances, if you wish (and maybe take an adult with you, for what it's worth)...

Oh yeah make it easy on us and take heed of this advice:
Oh yeah... and jskillz... you don't need to make the headings of your threads read "CALLING ALL SOUND ENGINEERS!!!" or "THE BIG MIC QUESTION...CHECK IT OUT!!!!". You sound like your selling something like a used car salesman or something... Take a look at how everyone else posts their threads. Also... I'm not ragging on you, but it is much easier to read your replies when you use punctuation. I know you know how to use punctuation because I've seen you do it on a few threads... don't be lazy. It's a pain in the ass to read and understand what you're saying!
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P.S. just cuz you got that cash coming on Christmas doesn't mean you gotta go spend it pronto. Maybe see if you can get a gift certificate from the music store or something so you won't blow it, or have Mom or Pop Dukes goto the music store for you, with the names of a few mics & let 'em surprise you. The fact that you are no closer to making an informed decision on your own prolly means you oughtta roll with whatever the flavor is you got close at hand until you learn a bit more. And keep your first mic no matter what - you'll be glad you did in 15-20 years just to look back on (and maybe even use!!!).

Good luck.


dj dolo
 
Oops, my bad...

It's the Blue Max w/all the presets & shit. My bust. Otherwise, same shit applies...

dj dolo
 
Re: Be careful what you ask for...

Flo' Dolo said:
Jskillz,

Since you said you're getting a blue tube from a friend, I assume it's not cutting into your "Christmas Microphone Money." Don't bother even killing yourself trying to figure out what a
DMP-3 is, the Presonus will do you just fine - and not just cuz you're a new jack. As the years go by, you may end up holding onto it simply because YOU like it, as someone alluded to earlier. It will serve your current purposes just fine. In time, if you find you don't like it, then let me be the first to welcome you to the world of "lateral movement is a matter of taste." Use the blue tube, it actually has presets on it that will help you get immediate results, and give you a great jumping off place to actually begin to understand what the hell all those knobs, numbers, and pretty flashing lights are. If you're feeling game, then by all means try to trade or sell it and get something else. I'm just not sure it'll matter now, and when it finally does, you'll hopefully be in a much better place as far as choosing what'll work best for you.

Christmas Mic --------> do a search in the mic forum here for mics under $300.00 (or $200.00, etc). Also try a search in the same place using the names of the various mics you're interested in. I dunno how much going to a music store to audition mics will help you, since you as yet have no point of reference, and won't yet be able to discern what you think from what the sales rep is coerecing you to think. Just as well to take your chances with the advice you get from here, I think. Since Lost Studios can kinda vouch for GC in Manhattan, take your chances, if you wish (and maybe take an adult with you, for what it's worth)...

Oh yeah make it easy on us and take heed of this advice:


P.S. just cuz you got that cash coming on Christmas doesn't mean you gotta go spend it pronto. Maybe see if you can get a gift certificate from the music store or something so you won't blow it, or have Mom or Pop Dukes goto the music store for you, with the names of a few mics & let 'em surprise you. The fact that you are no closer to making an informed decision on your own prolly means you oughtta roll with whatever the flavor is you got close at hand until you learn a bit more. And keep your first mic no matter what - you'll be glad you did in 15-20 years just to look back on (and maybe even use!!!).

Good luck.


dj dolo
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Yeah your right, but i dont know if my sound card is good enough, and will i need to buy a diff sound card or what? Because the sound card I got is a dolby 5.1 c-media and I dont think its for recording , But will it do the job or no?

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<--- here is a picture of my card i think mins just a diffrent color
 
Don't buy the Blue Tube. It seriously, seriously sucks.
 
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