Behringer PMP 4000

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I just recently bought the Behringer PMP 4000 and I was wondering if anyone had any experience with one playing at gigs and such? I was a little skeptical at first but I needed it for small shows at partys and small bars for my band. It is currently on the way and I have 30 days before I can choose to return it or not but I won't be able to play at any shows before then.

My biggest concern is not having enough power but it delivers 800W of power ( peak that is ) but im running it through a pair of 2 10" Mojo Tone 60w speakers. I have no sub yet and am lookin at a pair of monitors for the vocals. Any advice for what new speakers / monitors I should use at a reasonable price and power? We will mainly be playing at outdoor parties, small house parties, and small bars in my area. I also like to record with my roomate who plays drum and I play bass. Thanks.
 
I just bought the PMP1280S and love it.
I have no way of knowing how much it is putting out but I've had this unit working really hard and absolutely no problems.
What size rooms are you doing? 40 60 80 100?
Oh, by the way; I tried out the preamps for recording... not bad.
I'm also using it to power my passive monitors in the studio.
 
I think you will have a bigger problem with the Mojo Tone 60w speakers not having enough power rating.

Cheers
Alan.
 
I've done pubs with 60 watt speakers in the past.
I think he'd do them more harm by being underpowered, to tell you the truth.
But having said that, there are plenty of great deals to be had on E-Bay for 100 - 150 watt speakers.
 
I'm with Jim on this one.

I regularly drove a pair of 50 watt monitors with a 700 watt power amp, and an acquaintance powers his pair of EV SX100s with a 1600 watt power amp.

However, I agree with Witzendoz about the Mojo Tone speakers, but not for the same reasons. My impression is that Mojotones are designed as guitar amp speakers, rather than PA speakers, and I'm not sure you will get the clarity you need.
 
gecko zzed said:
I'm with Jim on this one.

I regularly drove a pair of 50 watt monitors with a 700 watt power amp, and an acquaintance powers his pair of EV SX100s with a 1600 watt power amp.

However, I agree with Witzendoz about the Mojo Tone speakers, but not for the same reasons. My impression is that Mojotones are designed as guitar amp speakers, rather than PA speakers, and I'm not sure you will get the clarity you need.
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I did not know that about Mojo Tone. I got the speakers handed down w/ custom made enclosures to me so ill take what I can get but to be honest there not bad sounding. They got plenty of bass to them so hopefully they will manage. I don't know much about speaker brands but I have come to the conclusion that it would be much cheaper to buy 4 louder 10" speakers and switch them out for my Mojotones then buying new speakers (although I could be seriously wrong and love to see myself proved otherwise....). I already have the enclosure but I just need to know what brands are good to be used as PA speakers. A link would be helpful. Also, I have been looking at monitors and how loud in comparision should my monitors be to my speakers? Kinda a silly question but I am just trying to get a general idea.

If anyone can tell me if this brand KRK has good monitors that would be great. Guitar center near my house is having a blowout sale on them because they overstocked.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/KRK-Rokit-Powered-5-Generation-2-104908710-i1403132.gc

Jim Lad said:
I just bought the PMP1280S and love it.
I have no way of knowing how much it is putting out but I've had this unit working really hard and absolutely no problems.
What size rooms are you doing? 40 60 80 100?
Oh, by the way; I tried out the preamps for recording... not bad.
I'm also using it to power my passive monitors in the studio.
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No bigger than 60 I would imagine. Am also glad to hear that the preamps are decent for recording. Looking foward to trying that out. Thank you everyone who contributed to helping me figure out what I need to do lol.
 
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jb00996 said:
I did not know that about Mojo Tone. I got the speakers handed down w/ custom made enclosures to me so ill take what I can get but to be honest there not bad sounding. They got plenty of bass to them so hopefully they will manage.
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They may have plenty of bass, but that's not where your problem is going to lie. For PA you need to be able to reproduce the high frequencies as well, so you need to think about coupling the Mojos with something that will deliver them. Do a Google search on PA speaker design, and you will see how this is managed. At the simplest, you couple a lower frequency driver (e.g. the Mojo), with a horn for the highs. For cheap and nasty, you can get some piezo horns if your budget is limited.
 
I have talked in other threads about speaker vs amp power, and I agree that the amp should always have more power than the speaker rating. The reason is that an amp that has plenty of head room power wise will always supply a good clean signal, where by an amp that is over driven will supply a square wave signal that destroys speakers.

However, I think that expecting a 60 watt cab to supply PA to a room full of noisy punters at a gig and to not be over driven by the 800 watt amp could be asking a bit much. Having re-read the original post, are we saying the mojo tone speaker cabs have 2 10" 60 watt speakers in each box or that there is 1 10" 60 watt speaker in each box? If it's 2 x 10" 60 watt that means each box is 120 watt and times 2 is 240 watts of speakers. If that's the case than thats closer to the rating you need for a 800 watt amp.

The other thing is, do the boxes have horns? (as asked by gecko zzed), horn speakers supply a lot more dB than speakers (in higher frequencies) for the same power rating and make total box much more efficient.

The question on krk? They make studio monitors, we are talking about PA speakers, studio monitors do not work as PA speakers.

Cheers
Alan.
 
witzendoz said:
I have talked in other threads about speaker vs amp power, and I agree that the amp should always have more power than the speaker rating. The reason is that an amp that has plenty of head room power wise will always supply a good clean signal, where by an amp that is over driven will supply a square wave signal that destroys speakers.

However, I think that expecting a 60 watt cab to supply PA to a room full of noisy punters at a gig and to not be over driven by the 800 watt amp could be asking a bit much. Having re-read the original post, are we saying the mojo tone speaker cabs have 2 10" 60 watt speakers in each box or that there is 1 10" 60 watt speaker in each box? If it's 2 x 10" 60 watt that means each box is 120 watt and times 2 is 240 watts of speakers. If that's the case than thats closer to the rating you need for a 800 watt amp.

The other thing is, do the boxes have horns? (as asked by gecko zzed), horn speakers supply a lot more dB than speakers (in higher frequencies) for the same power rating and make total box much more efficient.


The question on krk? They make studio monitors, we are talking about PA speakers, studio monitors do not work as PA speakers.

Cheers
Alan.
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Each box has 2 speakers meaning 120 watts per box or 240 watts total. Sorry for not clarifying that in the original post.

There are no horns. They are Mojo Tone guitar speakers ( I am at work but will post a link to the model once I look up the model number). Would you be suggesting that I swap one of my mojotones for a good horn speaker?

Figures. Well what about for stage monitors? What would be a good priced / right power monitor for some of my events?
 
I would just add a horn to each of the mojo's, you could just put then in a small box and sit them on top. If you use a piezo type horn you don't need a crossover and the impedance is not affected. Something like this. You will find the top end will increase heaps and you will get more volume.

Cheers
Alan.
 
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