Beck, Clapton, Page

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  • BECK

    Votes: 31 40.8%
  • CLAPTON

    Votes: 19 25.0%
  • PAGE

    Votes: 26 34.2%

  • Total voters
    76
Tough call, but considering playing only I had to go with Beck.

Page would win out though if you include production skills.

IMO Clapton hasn't done anything interesting since he kicked smack.:eek:
 
Yeah, I'd go with Alvin Lee. That guy was way ahead of his time but not very prolific.
 
Beck on pure balls , but each guy has some strengths , I liked Clapton when he played with John Mayall and The Blues Breakers and the early Cream stuff but he has left me cold recently except for his writing and singing skills , the acoustic ballads could become standards . Page has been the model trio guitarist and seems to come up with hooks that please the lowest common denomitator , which some might argue could be a measure of success . But for me BECK RULES !!!!!!
 
Page IS rock and roll. Slop and all.

I'm starting to get into Clapton's early stuff. The stuff he puts out now is too Adult Contemporary, soccer mom friendly pop for my taste.

I never heard much Beck growing up in the 80's. Except for his stuff with Rod Stewart and a little bit of his solo work. He's one of the guys I keep putting off looking into his music.
 
recently I'm most impressed with beck's creativity and especially his live performances--check out his 1999 "live in japan" performance...I've seen him live only twice (in recent years), and I was completely blown away...
while page had plenty of horrible live performances with zep, his tours with rogers, coverdale, and plant were nearly always top-quality...on top of that, his tour and live cd with the black crows laid to waste any doubt that jimmy can't do the zep thing live...the dude was amazingly "on top of it" and fearless on center-stage completely alone...he has always demonstrated his ability to be much more versitile than clapton or beck (i.e. he plays the mandolin, therimin, still uses a "bow", he's scored films, he's done "pop", old-English folk, hard-rock, blus, 12-string...

in the final analysis I'd have to say that beck and page tie in my book...
clapton has almost become hum-drum, or perhaps too commercialized or too formulated...the dude should just step-up and jam, but no, he always makes a big production--a real team effort that IMHO detracts from his virtuosity.
 
Coming out of the Yardbirds

Im really getting a kick out of this topic,and discusion.I thought I was the only man left who remembers Alvin Lee for one thing...But I feel the need to point out that reguardless of what these guys have done over the past THIRTYFIVE years{YIKES!},coming out of the Yardbirds,[the next recordings they did] where pretty amazing.All three of them followed their last Yardbird record with a masterpiece.Keep on truckin,,,,,Earl D.
 
Alvin Lee sucked. Listen to his stuff again - he recycles the same lick over and over again, not counting that lame play-like-Wes-Montgomery-in-30-days-or-your-money-back shit he'd play when it was time to be "jazzy" (only time Chick Churchill ever got a solo, too).

Alvin's kinda like Dickie Betts in that regard, only he plays an even LESS interesting single lick than Dickie does.

I dug TYA back in the day, but I grew out of it by the time I was 15, and realized the lameness that was Alvin.

But speaking of the Bluesbreakers, how about Peter Green? His stuff with Fleetwood Mac (before the chicks showed up) RAWKED! Too bad he hung it up...
 
Peter Green an Alvin Lee

dafduc said:
Alvin Lee sucked. Listen to his stuff again - he recycles the same lick over and over again, not counting that lame play-like-Wes-Montgomery-in-30-days-or-your-money-back shit he'd play when it was time to be "jazzy" (only time Chick Churchill ever got a solo, too).

Alvin's kinda like Dickie Betts in that regard, only he plays an even LESS interesting single lick than Dickie does.

I dug TYA back in the day, but I grew out of it by the time I was 15, and realized the lameness that was Alvin.

But speaking of the Bluesbreakers, how about Peter Green? His stuff with Fleetwood Mac (before the chicks showed up) RAWKED! Too bad he hung it up...
I agree that Lee was not real creative,,but for a few records he was playing some very powerful stuff[really really fast single licks],but the really sad thing is how Peter Green fell apart [mental illness]at the very begining of his career.I completely agree that he was going to be one of the great ones.Earl D..PS>But this has nothing to do with Coming out of the Yardbirds}See ya!!
 
I think of the three Beck had more influence on my own playing.




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Re: Coming out of the Yardbirds

Earlds said:
Im really getting a kick out of this topic,and discusion.I thought I was the only man left who remembers Alvin Lee for one thing...But I feel the need to point out that reguardless of what these guys have done over the past THIRTYFIVE years{YIKES!},coming out of the Yardbirds,[the next recordings they did] where pretty amazing.All three of them followed their last Yardbird record with a masterpiece.Keep on truckin,,,,,Earl D.

I keep Ten years after Live in my truck all the time in case I make a trip that permits me to listen uninterupted.
 
Re: Re: Coming out of the Yardbirds

Toki987 said:
I keep Ten years after Live in my truck all the time in case I make a trip that permits me to listen uninterupted.
I understand!!Earl D.SSSSh,Undead....Dig it!!!
 
Tough call, but considering playing only I had to go with Beck.

Page would win out though if you include production skills.

IMO Clapton hasn't done anything interesting since he kicked smack.:eek:

Well, that by it's self is no mean feat. And he does seem to be a more humbled person, afterwards.

Not to split hairs, but the OP asked "... Who do you like best?" Not necessarily who is the best guitarist, or best musician, or even the best person. "Liking" is about as subjective a thing as one can do, so one should not feel the need to justify one's choice by putting down other choices- much better to explain what it is about one's preference that you, well, like.

So, (and trying to stay within the confines of what I stated, above,) I like Clapton. For me, it goes beyond the music. His earlier guitar work, his kicking the habit and staying clean and sober- and his post-rehab humility, donating those guitars to be auctioned (and lending his name) to raise money for a rehab program, his reverence for the blues and blues musicians, and his willingness to sit down and play music with other gifted musicians (whom a lesser man might see as a threat,) and yes, even his more recent playing, all enter the picture, to my way of thinking.
 
Yeah, you are right- it is an old thread, but somehow, it appeared on my search for "New Posts." As is often the case with many of us, I didn't notice the date of the previous post.

Weird.

Further posting date strangeness: Just yesterday, I replied to a poster about how suitable an old Yammie board would be for his high school's zero-budget recording room, and it seems to have disappeared.
 
Yeah, you are right- it is an old thread, but somehow, it appeared on my search for "New Posts." As is often the case with many of us, I didn't notice the date of the previous post.
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Someone bumped the thread by voting in this ridiculous poll.
 
i did...I voted for Beck

"Im a loser baby, why dont you kill me"...great song, never knew he played guitar though, what a talent
 
I only voted after it got bummped...just to keep it going! :laughings:

Page is the man....
 
i did...I voted for Beck

"Im a loser baby, why dont you kill me"...great song, never knew he played guitar though, what a talent

LOL! He plays awesome guitar man C-Pro

From a creative riff standpoint I think Page has it pretty much sewn up. I think he must have been using Aliester Crowleys spells or something to make that shit up.
 
Given that all three were barely children just after they left the Yardies, it was inevitable they'd all make good music because none of them really had a chance to really put their stamp on the Yardbirds. I mean, Page initially joined that band as the flaming bassist. He only switched to guitar when Beck got ill and they were one of the first dual lead guitar groups. But the Beatles even beat them to that {'I feel fine', 'You can't do that'}.
Personally, I dug Clapton's live stuff with Cream but I think he's been sliding gradually downwards creatively since '69, though he's always been an interesting player. But frustratingly so.
Beck simply could not write songs despite his prowess. I have one of his jazz fusion albums and it has some lovely stuff on it. I remember noting 20+ years ago that all the songs were written by his drummer or Jan Hammer or were covers.
I'm biased in favour of Page because I love Zeppelin's stuff. I think he was a very inventive guitarist who melded pop sensibility and folk sensitivity to heavy rock grist while being able to ape a variety of styles that he incorporated into his arsenal. He was also a good songwriter and was one of the first guitarists to really take that layering principle to get heavy sounds.
So many people comment on his sloppiness. I've never noticed ! Mind you, I never even thought any of the English punk bands were sloppy.
 
It just kills me when I learn a Led Zepplin song and it takes about 60 seconds.. I'm like thats it? It's unbelievable how simple the basis of most of the songs are and yet so completely awesome at the same time. (I'm not learning the solos, obviously, just the main parts of the song)

wish I could come up with some riffs like that :P
 
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