Back In My Arms - Feedback please

[ido1957]

Here's a new song that I've been working on. Let me know what you think of the mix....

It's called Back In My Arms and the links are below:

Streaming Player:
http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=6936276&q=hi
Song Page:
http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6936276

 

[Greg_L]

Sounds good Ido. I like the raunchier than usual guitar tone. Mix sounds pretty good, although it's pretty sparse. I'm all for straight-ahead arrangements, but maybe this one needs some accent guitar work or backups or something. I like the solo, but it's tone is too similar to the rhythm tones. I'd personally like to hear it jump out with more balls maybe. That's juts me though. Overall it's a cool little upbeat song. Good job.

 

[DavidK]

Very good as usual Gerry. Greg pretty much nailed the comments, especially the "more balls" approach. This one needs raunch, and you get some with the guitar but need more, probably in the drums. Actually, these drums are more elaborate than previous songs of yours, just making them louder might help.

Dig the song. My gal is in the room and she says "guy sounds like Eric Clapton".

 

[RAMI]

Sounds good, Ido. As mentioned, the drums can come up a bit...and maybe roll some high end off them. It's the high sizzle that can often make fake drums sound fake. Nice tune. Love your guitar playing. Smooth as hell.

 

[ido1957]

Thanks Greg, David and Rami...

maybe this one needs some accent guitar work or backups or something.

I'll look into adding some keyboards or background stuff.

I like the solo, but it's tone is too similar to the rhythm tones.

Hmmm.. Humbuckers for the rhythm and Single coils for the solo - must be the Marshall that makes them sound same-ish....

need more, probably in the drums....just making them louder might help.

The drums have been a challenge this time. Snare is a bit bright on this one. I've taken some of the highs off and any additional volume still makes it, well "snappier" than I like.

Dig the song. My gal is in the room and she says "guy sounds like Eric Clapton".

Must be the EC Strat

the drums can come up a bit...and maybe roll some high end off them.

See what I mean? I think my overheads are just too cheap....

 

[Chili]

Hey Ido.

I think just bringing down the rhythm guitars might help the mix a bit. I feel the vocals and drums are competing for space with them. Agree with the other comments about having something more going on with fills or a counter melody.

"Back In My Arms" is a nice title for a song, but it doesn't seem to be an effective hook for this one. "Got no lovin'" is near the end of the chorus, is melodically isolated and it gets used more often.

Great song, man....

Peace,

 

[Greg_L]

Hmmm.. Humbuckers for the rhythm and Single coils for the solo - must be the Marshall that makes them sound same-ish....

That's probably it. Maybe add a touch of delay or chorus to the solo to make it stand out more from the rhythms. My lead tones are usually pretty similar to my rhythm tones as well. To make the lead jump out, I usually treat it with some kind of effect.

 

[rayc]

I'm listening with h/phones so I could be all over the place with my comments.
What's making bass sounds on this Gerry?
The bass runs sound like Mike but the Ricky definition isn't there.
A terrific song (AS BLOODY USUAL!) - the vocal performance is sweet.
I like the solo. It might jsut need a little EQing to make it stand out more.
The rhytjm guitars chug nicely though they don't quite seems seated.
The boomtish machine isn't bad - the snare is a bit up & the crash/ride are a bit indistinct.
This is going to be a killer when you've the balance just right.

 

[ido1957]

Thanks Chili, Greg and Ray....

"Back In My Arms" is a nice title for a song, but it doesn't seem to be an effective hook for this one. "Got no lovin'" is near the end of the chorus, is melodically isolated and it gets used more often.

I actually thought I might call it "Long Forgotten Love" because that phrase pops out during the chorus. In the end I just kept my original title...good suggestion though...

Maybe add a touch of delay or chorus to the solo to make it stand out more from the rhythms.

I'll give that a try...

The bass runs sound like Mike but the Ricky definition isn't there.

It was way more distinct but then when I added the requested bottom end it was a bit much. This is my attempt at a mid-point...

This is going to be a killer when you've the balance just right.

I'm working on it

 

[Llarion]

Love the guitar tone. I think you need to inject a little growl into the vocal part to match the new found ball sac hair on the guitar part... Rami's right about rolling highs off the drums, I'd also give them a bit more punch... This one is well-written, has some real style...

This one is a good candate for someone to record you some real drums and remix it with them. Hmm, do you know any drummers round these parts?

 

[ido1957]

Love the guitar tone. I think you need to inject a little growl into the vocal part to match the new found ball sac hair on the guitar part... Rami's right about rolling highs off the drums, I'd also give them a bit more punch... This one is well-written, has some real style...

This one is a good candate for someone to record you some real drums and remix it with them. Hmm, do you know any drummers round these parts?

That sounds like an idea - I'd be interested to hear what you could do with this, both drum wise and mix wise. I have the tracks (in sync) downloaded to computer (.wavs). PM me with your details if you'd like to try your hand at this....

 

[gecko zzed]

After reading through the various comments, I found that everyone had stolen my thunder, leaving me previous little to comment on.

The songs hangs together well, and the lyrics work well in the context of the song.

I agree that:
1 it seems to lack a memorable hook.
2 that the kit, for this rocky kind of feel, needs to add a bit of drama here and there
3 that the lead also needs to burst out more (but, yes, it is a tastefully played lead)
4 and that the vocals could do with more growl.

The overall impression I get is of "repressed safeness", i.e. everything is played or sung very well, but very carefully, and perhaps somewhat inhibitedly. I would really like to see the lid come off this little pressure cooker, and hear what happens when you really go for it.

I agree that there is a touch of the Clapton style vocal lurking in there, but I would tend to cast my eyes in a more southerly direction and imagine how John Fogerty might have done this.

 

[Llarion]

The overall impression I get is of "repressed safeness", i.e. everything is played or sung very well, but very carefully, and perhaps somewhat inhibitedly. I would really like to see the lid come off this little pressure cooker, and hear what happens when you really go for it.

I agree that there is a touch of the Clapton style vocal lurking in there, but I would tend to cast my eyes in a more southerly direction and imagine how John Fogerty might have done this.

Very well-spoken. A shot of tequila or 2 and re-track the vox!

 

[joeym]

Nice song Ido! (roll over Eric.....)
Love your guitar playing and your voice...like the guys said, this could be a bit more kick-ass and dirty. And what the hookline needs to stand out more IMHO are backing vocals......I imagine kind of Bruce Springsteen type drums on this one, the snare should really bang. Great rock'n'roll song!

Cheers
Joe

 

[Llarion]

That sounds like an idea - I'd be interested to hear what you could do with this, both drum wise and mix wise. I have the tracks (in sync) downloaded to computer (.wavs). PM me with your details if you'd like to try your hand at this....

Got em...

 

[heatmiser]

The overall impression I get is of "repressed safeness", i.e. everything is played or sung very well, but very carefully, and perhaps somewhat inhibitedly. I would really like to see the lid come off this little pressure cooker, and hear what happens when you really go for it.

I agree that there is a touch of the Clapton style vocal lurking in there, but I would tend to cast my eyes in a more southerly direction and imagine how John Fogerty might have done this.

Another fine tune ido! gecko sums up my feelings exactly above. This is kind of how I feel about a number of your recordings in general but he expressed it better. The ballads and such are probably subdued with good reason, but this type of tune, while it has a little more of a sense of abandon than others, seems to want to go further in the direction of recklessness than you have so far. The relative tameness of the drums contributes to this I think.

I loved the lead guitar tone...sounds fiesty.

 

[ido1957]

Thanks joeym and heatmiser....

I imagine kind of Bruce Springsteen type drums on this one, the snare should really bang.

The relative tameness of the drums contributes to this I think.

I'm looking forward to Llarion's addition to the track.From past experience I know it will take it up a notch....

 

[Freudian Slip]

Cool Stuff Ido! Little different for ya.

I think it sounds really good! The only thing that stood out to me as that it might need some manual tweeks or a little mor compression on the vox to fix some quiet parts at the beginings of a few words here and there.

As always I am looking forward to the next installment

F.S.

 

[Llarion]

Gonna be a minor delay on that; I have a houseguest sleeping in my studio till Saturday, and a paid hired gun gig in line before this, so I fugre it'll be Sunday when I can record this...

 

[Nakatira]

Sounds good to me Ido, great vocal sound, crisp and clear.
well sung.
I get a clapton/winwood feel from this.

Some real drums are gonna suit this tune perfectly

Nice to hear your work again