atm 25 vs atm 25 pro?

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The difference is that one (the ATM25) exists and the other (the ATM25 Pro) doesn't. The ATM25 Pro is just called the Pro25. I have an ATM25 and like it. It has a wider frequency range than the Pro 25 (which seems to have been designed to be a dedicated bass and kick mic) and will probably be more useful in the long run.
 
I own both of these mics, I like them both. The way that I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong here) Audio Technica "Pro" series is their budget "entry level" series of microphones.
I use my Pro 25 on my one of my floor toms and I use my ATM25 on my kick drum. The frequency range is pretty much the same, but the ATM25
gives me a slightly stronger clearer signal requiring less boost . These are both excellent microphones and will handle very high SPL's without clipping. They look different too. The ATM25 is really small looking (but gives really large sound), whereas the Pro 25 has a slightly larger looking grill. The ATM25 can be had for about $139 in most places and the AT PRO 25 is about $70.
 
thumbs down on Pro25

i've had the misfortune of using a pro25 on my kick (pearl export with evans heads) several times and can't say i like it one bit. overloaded waaaay too easily and i couldn't get a usable sound out of it no matter where i placed it (in, out, near, far, etc). just clipped and flabby. i got better sounds out of an sm57 than i did that thing. it might've been ok on a bass cab, but i didn't let it go anywhere near it for fear of the suckiness rubbing off. :D

can't weigh in on the ATM25, but i wouldn't use a pro25 for a paperweight.

of course, this just goes to show how milage can vary. lots of folks here use the pro25 and get quite usable results with it. you might be one of them.

i'd try before you buy if that's a possibility.


wade

PS--and yeah, i think rimshot's pretty dead on in his assessment between the two with the "pro" is the more "entry level" of the two. in my experience, the word "pro" usually means "avoid". :D
 
I have (3) ATM25, all from ebay at $45, $92, and $101. They are new at $139 including shipping from Zzounds.

I like 'em so well, I'd like to find a fourth one.
 
I have both of these mic,s also and if you open them you will see that they both have the same diaphram in them.

And they are not for drummers that cannot control their playing
You can over load them.
They are like any other mic they have their limitations.
 
<<you will see that they both have the same diaphram in them>>

i too have heard that about these two mics. however, we all know that the diaphragm is not the end-all/be-all for why a mic sounds like it does.

<<And they are not for drummers that cannot control their playing>>

while i may be a little hard on the rest of the kit, the kick is the one thing that i'm definitely "lighter" on. many a soundman has said "gimme some kick" during soundcheck and said "is that it?" when i did so. i prefer finesse, a light touch and speed on the kick, so "yeah" is always the answer. suffice it to say, while some folks plow through a kick drum--i'm not one of em.

.....really oughta learn speed, light touch and finesse on the rest of the kit, though. ;-)

<<You can over load them>>

with this particular pro25, apparently it didn't take much. :D


that's not to say that someone else might have perfectly positive experiences with the pro25. since they're getting the mostly thumbs up around here, i figured i'd play the opposite side for once.

wouldn't be opposed to giving an ATM25 a whirl once, though, just for shits and grins.


wade
 
I do have to cut back on the low fequencies when trackng or I will overload the headphone speakers. I've never had a problem with the mics clipping, but I have with the headphones. On playback through the monitors it's fine, but I have to cut the lows a lot or it's just too heavy on the bass.
I like a very round and open type of jazz kick sound, so I can use the Pro 25, but I prefer using it on my 18" tom and using the ATM25 on kick. As with all mics,
the musician chooses the mic that gives them the best sound for their instrument. For some drummers the AT mics might be dead wrong. I don't happen to like the sound I get from a Beta 52 or a PG 52, it doesn't suit my style. I love the ATM25 and I'm thinking about picking up the Audix D6 because I used it once and loved it (it's a bit heavier sounding).
 
just goes to show

....takes diff'rent strokes to move the world.....

thinking about it, i should've tried the pro25 on my mid-60's ludwig kit....it's a lot more "open" sounding (think bonzo) than my pearl kit (which is really "punchy" by contrast), and it prolly would've been a much better match for that mic.

absolutely different mics for different sources. and by corollary, definitely not the right mic for my source. rimshot's dead on and i know he's not pickin at me, and neither am i at him......it's just that for as much as i trumpet the various mics i'm pleased with, i find it fair to put out there the feedback when i find one that didn't work for me, on my gear, in my room. i know i couldn't make a valid judgement on some gear if i only heard the "good" about it......that's how i see it, anyway. ;-)

i too don't like the sound of the beta52 or the akg d112.....but i do like the senn e602 for that fat, punchy, cave-your-chest-in rock sound. i hear the audix is similar. i passed on all of those, though, and i'm using an EV RE38 as my kick mic. but it does so much more than just plain rocks as a kick mic. :D


wade
 
mrface,
I totally agree (I actually "thought" I was defending your post:)).
I have only reently got into the whole mic, homerecording thing. I always relied on rec engineers or sound guys to mic up my drums. I have listened to others, read advice on mics (places like here) and gotten mics on reccommendations....and hated them.
Then I listened to recordings by the people that reccommended them and said "Aha!" It works for their sound, but it won't work for mine.
Then I began making myself a real pain-in-the-ass at pro-audio retailers, trying things out before I bought them.
My tastes change also. I am very happy with my ATM25 kick mic for the sound that I want, but I'm thinking about going for a fatter punchier sound in the kick (who knows, I may not like it afterall), and I'm retuning the drum and I may want to go with the Audix D6 for a while.
So it is ALL ABOUT personal preferences, and sometimes variety.
Each part of the signal chain will influence the sound, but after the musician it starts with the mic. I don't like to use too much peripherals and processes on the original sound, so that keeps it simple. Learning about what mics to use is like tuning your instrument or developing your style. They put a distinct character on your sound.
 
I prefer the ATM over the pro also but I use my EV way more then the ATM, but I have been using the ATM25 for my floor tom quit abit latly and it sounds good.
 
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