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Hmmmmm? Maybe I've heard of this document before...not sure...
I ran across this article which brings up Roswell as the smoking gun.
I personally do believe the Roswell incident was the beginning of when the U.S. military actually came to possess technology beyond human ( as we know it) capabilities
On July 8, 1947, the exact same day that the Roswell Air Base put out a press release saying that they had a flying saucer in their possession (something they wrote off as a weather balloon just five hours later), Twining canceled a scheduled trip to the West Coast. He did so “due to a very important and sudden matter.” It appears that while it was thought he was in Washington, D.C., travel records show he actually made a trip to New Mexico, where he remained until July 10.
Within two months, the Pentagon asked Twining and his team at Air Materiel Command to get to the bottom of the entire “flying disk” affair. He convened a secret conference with personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence assets from T-2 (later, the Foreign Technology Division), the Office of Chief Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering (Division T-3).
As Don Schmitt and Tom Carey put it in their Children of Roswell book —
Of particular interest, T-2 Intelligence at that time was primarily responsible for analyzing any and all foreign, new, or unknown aerial technology that came into the possession of the United States by whatever means. After World War Two, it was logically assumed that most such material devices would be of Soviet origin. Roswell was the cherry on top.
What’s not generally known is that at the end of the letter, handwritten, is the listing of the high-ranking officers and scientists who “coordinated” the memo — again, for the record, people from aircraft, propeller and power plant labs, and the engineering division T-3 at Wright Field.
So, importantly, this three page assessment wasn’t Nathan Twining flying solo with his beliefs about flying disks, but the consensus opinion of the best and brightest minds on the subject area that America had to offer.
Here's the transcript of the memo.....
SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning “Flying Discs”
TO: Commanding General
Army Air Forces
Washington 25, D.C.
ATTENTION: Brig. General George Schulgen, AC/AS-2
1. As requested by AC/AS-2 there is presented below the considered opinion of this command concerning the so-called “Flying Discs.” This opinion is based on interrogation report data furnished by AC/AS-2 and preliminary studies by personnel of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory, Engineering Division T-3. This opinion was arrived at in a conference between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence T-2, Office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3.
2. It is the opinion that:
N.F. TWINING
Lieutenant General, U.S.A.
Commanding
Just saying...
I ran across this article which brings up Roswell as the smoking gun.
I personally do believe the Roswell incident was the beginning of when the U.S. military actually came to possess technology beyond human ( as we know it) capabilities
On July 8, 1947, the exact same day that the Roswell Air Base put out a press release saying that they had a flying saucer in their possession (something they wrote off as a weather balloon just five hours later), Twining canceled a scheduled trip to the West Coast. He did so “due to a very important and sudden matter.” It appears that while it was thought he was in Washington, D.C., travel records show he actually made a trip to New Mexico, where he remained until July 10.
Within two months, the Pentagon asked Twining and his team at Air Materiel Command to get to the bottom of the entire “flying disk” affair. He convened a secret conference with personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence assets from T-2 (later, the Foreign Technology Division), the Office of Chief Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering (Division T-3).
As Don Schmitt and Tom Carey put it in their Children of Roswell book —
“If the general was attempting to corroborate ‘hardware,’ he couldn’t have gone to better consultants. Clearly, these were ‘nuts and bolts’ experts, not simply lights-in-the-sky speculators. Combined with what Twining knew firsthand to be the truth about the recovery at Roswell and whatever late-breaking status reports he gleaned from these consultants, he decided how to respond to the original demand.”
Of particular interest, T-2 Intelligence at that time was primarily responsible for analyzing any and all foreign, new, or unknown aerial technology that came into the possession of the United States by whatever means. After World War Two, it was logically assumed that most such material devices would be of Soviet origin. Roswell was the cherry on top.
What’s not generally known is that at the end of the letter, handwritten, is the listing of the high-ranking officers and scientists who “coordinated” the memo — again, for the record, people from aircraft, propeller and power plant labs, and the engineering division T-3 at Wright Field.
So, importantly, this three page assessment wasn’t Nathan Twining flying solo with his beliefs about flying disks, but the consensus opinion of the best and brightest minds on the subject area that America had to offer.
Here's the transcript of the memo.....
The Full Transcript
September 23, 1947SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning “Flying Discs”
TO: Commanding General
Army Air Forces
Washington 25, D.C.
ATTENTION: Brig. General George Schulgen, AC/AS-2
1. As requested by AC/AS-2 there is presented below the considered opinion of this command concerning the so-called “Flying Discs.” This opinion is based on interrogation report data furnished by AC/AS-2 and preliminary studies by personnel of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory, Engineering Division T-3. This opinion was arrived at in a conference between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence T-2, Office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3.
2. It is the opinion that:
3. It is recommended that:a. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious.
b. There are objects probably approximating the shape of a disc, of such appreciable size as to appear to be as large as man-made aircraft.
c. There is a possibility that some of the incidents may be caused by natural phenomena, such as meteors.
d. The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and motion which must be considered evasive when sighted or contacted by friendly aircraft and radar, lend belief to the possibility that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically or remotely.
e. The apparent common description is as follows:
(1) Metallic or light reflecting surface.
(2) Absence of trail, except in a few instances where the object apparently was operating under high performance conditions.
(3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed on top.
(4) Several reports of well kept formation flights varying from three to nine objects.
(5) Normally no associated sound, except in three instances a substantial rumbling roar was noted.
(6) Level flight speeds normally above 300 knots are estimated.
f. It is possible within the present U.S. knowledge — provided extensive detailed development is undertaken — to construct a piloted aircraft which has the general description of the object in sub- paragraph (e) above which would be capable of an approximate range of 7000 miles at subsonic speeds.
g. Any development in this country along the lines indicated would be extremely expensive, time consuming and at the considerable expense of current projects and therefore, if directed, should be set up independently of existing projects.
h. Due consideration must be given the following:-
(1) The possibility that these objects are of domestic origin — the product of some high security project not known to AC/AS-2 or this Command.
(2) The lack of physical evidence in the shape of crash recovered exhibits which would undeniably prove the existence of these subjects.
(3) The possibility that some foreign nation has a form of propulsion possibly nuclear, which is outside of our domestic knowledge.
4. Awaiting a specific directive AMC will continue the investigation within its current resources in order to more closely define the nature of the phenomenon. Detailed Essential Elements of Information will be formulated immediately for transmittal thru channels.a. Headquarters, Army Air Forces issue a directive assigning a priority, security classification and Code name for a detailed study of this matter to include the preparation of complete sets of all available and pertinent data which will then be made available to the Army, Navy, Atomic Energy Commission, JRDB, the Air Force Scientific Advisory Group, NACA, and the RAND and NEPA projects for comments and recommendations, with a preliminary report to be forwarded within 15 days of receipt of the data and a detailed report thereafter every 30 days as the investigation develops. A complete interchange of data should be affected.
N.F. TWINING
Lieutenant General, U.S.A.
Commanding
Just saying...