Are instrumentals 'songs'?

mjbphotos

What?!?
I think this was asked in another thread. Some arguments going on in a FB songwriter group with a (primarily) lyric writer saying that unless you have a verse/chorus/etc structure, it's not a 'song'.
 

JMac52

New member
After checking a few dictionary sites, and in the context of this forum, a song is a piece of music that is intended to be sung. An instrumental could be a song if an instrument simulates the part intended to be sung. I didn't find any definition that refers to any particular structure.

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dainbramage

New member
If I, in an otherwise normal conversation, referred to an instrumental and said something like "you know, that song San Pedro by......" and the other person went "ab-ab-ab! Did you say song?!".. I would probably just leave the room. No good-byes, nothing, just turn around, walk, and never interact with this person ever again. Especially not on facebook.

I guess what I'm saying is that IMO it doesn't matter. It's just semantics.
 

Greg_L

Banned
Go back and read the page 1 replies again, Gecko and jcm's answered disagree.

I didn't read them that way at all.

The first sentence in gecko's wiki link "In music, a song is a composition for voice or voices, performed by singing or by musical instruments"

I don't know what side of the fence gecko falls on, nor do I care, but the link he used says that an instrumental is a song.

Nothing really surprises me with goofy internet people and their silly opinions, but I am a little surprised that anyone involved with any kind of music wouldn't agree that an instrumental is a song. Everything that western music is derived from is instrumental. Are those ancient classical compositions not songs?
 

fat_fleet

Swollen Member
I wasn't crazy about that wiki definition.... a song is either an "art song", "folk song", or "pop song"? That is too weird.
 

XploZiveToyz

All American Un-American
Greg has written instrumental "songs", and I've written instrumental "songs", so that means that instrumental "songs" are indeed "songs"! LOL! Why does this question interest you?
 

Armistice

Son of Yoda
Does it matter? I've got three albums worth of instrumentals... I call them songs, or tunes, or instrumentals, depending upon who I'm talking to..
 

gecko zzed

Grumpy Mod
Does it matter? I've got three albums worth of instrumentals... I call them songs, or tunes, or instrumentals, depending upon who I'm talking to..

I use the terms interchangeably as well.

It hasn't been a topic of profound philosophical concern to me.
 
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