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The Problem With The Web - Things Taken Out Of Text
Yes, dobro, Thank You for recognizing and pointing-out that I did NOT post that link to promote or discuss DaviSound gear; and ESPECIALLY NOT their website design! It just happened to be from that same author. I orignally asked him if I could share it with others (as I've been wanting to because it really is "Oh So True", funny (at least in my opinion), and a good overall lesson for us ALL). He was more than willing to let me share it, and in fact, he thought it was great timing for his "Update" on his site and he'd include it with some issues he'd been wanting to address about some of the inquiries and a few things going around the net about DaviSound. So, I decided not to take it out of text and simply shared the link.
But, since Mark H. decided to bring up his thoughts, views, and opinions on DaviSound all-around, here in this thread, that is COMPLETELY fine and I am willing to discuss it; please just don't accuse me of working for them or receiving some sort of finanial benifit from them. Not to say anyone here has, but I don't want it to get to that point! Nevertheless, I'd imagine those are some of the people who the aurthor is refering to anyhow.
So, yes, Mark H., I am FULLY aware that is the same "argument" the author gave. And it is so because I COMPLETELY agree with him! I say it as a multiple DaviSound gear owner who has FULL hand-on, ears-on, and eyes-on (both visually with their gear and through their GREAT customer service) experience; who came to DaviSound solely through their website, and tried their gear without ANYONE ever recommending their name to me! I saw DaviSound on a LARGE list of gear manufacturers someone posted on rap and I knew of EVERY one but DaviSound. I then searched for the site myself! I made the decision on my own, 100%! Luckily, THIS TIME, I DIDN'T have to sell ANY of the gear from DaviSound for half-than what I bought it for!
Now you can go ahead and call that statement arrogant or foolish, but it is NOT ANY more as arrogant and foolish as basing your doubts of DaviSound on ANY of those I listed. But regardless, that statement saves anyone the trouble and time to look into DaviSound if it describes the reasons for their doubts. You say what you say from your experiences and needs and I say what I say from my over-all experiences with DaviSound. AGAIN, it's cool and no one gets hurt. So, please call that statment ANYTHING but rude.
"Do you really think that I and other readers here "need a website easily laid-out for them," implying, of course, that we're too stupid to find our way around the Davisound site?"
No, you said in your polite reply:
"3.) It's too bad, therefore (just in my opinion), that their website doesn't open with a simple, plain, half-page of text that states:
This is who we are; this is where we are; this is how we prefer you get in touch with us; this is what we offer, this is how much it costs; this is how many units we make a year; this is how long our waiting list is at the present time -- with hyperlinks to other pages of interest, photos of products, interesting stories, etc."
So, I am therefore, in THAT part, NOT implying ANYTHING! You pretty much were saying you like websites easily laid-out for you and HOW you'd like it to be done... Well, what you were describing is NOT DaviSound's website and what the designer of the website was purposely trying NOT to do, so therefore, DaviSound is NOT for you, as I said.
"Do you really think we're "lazy" and unwilling or uninterested in putting time into reading about gear and the companies that make them??"
Do I REALLY think you're too lazy? No. If you took offence to that, please do NOT as I said it to be taken light-heartedly. Please accept my apologies as it seems you took it further than I intended. Unwilling or uninterested in putting in time? You tell me?... Ought I think otherwise from all you've said thus far? Or maybe it is you simply don't have the time? Time IS money and maybe you're time is worth A LOT more than mine... Either way, your wants and needs from a website, as opposed to mine, are different. Simple as that! Another reason I said DaviSound is NOT for you.
Personally, I feel if you take the time and read ALL of DaviSound's website, in order, from start to finish, as the designer of the website intended it to be read, everything you'd want (AND FAR more) from a website is there and the lay-out actually makes sense. As always, there is PLENTY of room for improvements at EVERY site; just as DaviSound's. Please DO vocalize your suggestions for improvement to DaviSound, BUT please do NOT suggest a new website lay-out like "so-and-so's" as I also feel (speaking as a customer who has FULLY experienced DaviSound; get your mind out of there!) DaviSound's website design is a VERY good expression for what DaviSound represents overall as a company! Once again, I tell you, if you don't like it, I recommend you look elsewhere as DaviSound is NOT for you!
"RE is of the stated opinion that a completely unverified story on the Davisound site is not only "oh so true" but applies to "everyone" here."
Yes, THAT is EXACTLY what I am saying! Of course it applies to EVERYONE!
That quality of thinking is called prejudice, regardless of the "type" of people to whom it is applied."
Ah ha! BUT, you see, THAT is the WHOLE lesson of the story! Now just apply that "key word" to EVERYONE and there you have it!
Peace, Dobro? What about Peace EVERYONE?
My gosh, this is NOT war! And my past track record around here can tell you I've NEVER been one of the few looking for trouble around here and that I handle it pretty level-headed when it finds me (of course we ALL say a few things out of character at times; some more often than others)! Also, ANYONE who's been around here for quite a long time can tell you that about me!
On that note, Peace EVERYONE!
P.S.
Dobro,
The free server I had that mp3 on decided to start charging. That's why it's no longer there. If you'd like, I can repost it some where. Which one of the 2, that I posted around the same time, was it?
Yes, dobro, Thank You for recognizing and pointing-out that I did NOT post that link to promote or discuss DaviSound gear; and ESPECIALLY NOT their website design! It just happened to be from that same author. I orignally asked him if I could share it with others (as I've been wanting to because it really is "Oh So True", funny (at least in my opinion), and a good overall lesson for us ALL). He was more than willing to let me share it, and in fact, he thought it was great timing for his "Update" on his site and he'd include it with some issues he'd been wanting to address about some of the inquiries and a few things going around the net about DaviSound. So, I decided not to take it out of text and simply shared the link.
But, since Mark H. decided to bring up his thoughts, views, and opinions on DaviSound all-around, here in this thread, that is COMPLETELY fine and I am willing to discuss it; please just don't accuse me of working for them or receiving some sort of finanial benifit from them. Not to say anyone here has, but I don't want it to get to that point! Nevertheless, I'd imagine those are some of the people who the aurthor is refering to anyhow.
So, yes, Mark H., I am FULLY aware that is the same "argument" the author gave. And it is so because I COMPLETELY agree with him! I say it as a multiple DaviSound gear owner who has FULL hand-on, ears-on, and eyes-on (both visually with their gear and through their GREAT customer service) experience; who came to DaviSound solely through their website, and tried their gear without ANYONE ever recommending their name to me! I saw DaviSound on a LARGE list of gear manufacturers someone posted on rap and I knew of EVERY one but DaviSound. I then searched for the site myself! I made the decision on my own, 100%! Luckily, THIS TIME, I DIDN'T have to sell ANY of the gear from DaviSound for half-than what I bought it for!
Now you can go ahead and call that statement arrogant or foolish, but it is NOT ANY more as arrogant and foolish as basing your doubts of DaviSound on ANY of those I listed. But regardless, that statement saves anyone the trouble and time to look into DaviSound if it describes the reasons for their doubts. You say what you say from your experiences and needs and I say what I say from my over-all experiences with DaviSound. AGAIN, it's cool and no one gets hurt. So, please call that statment ANYTHING but rude.
"Do you really think that I and other readers here "need a website easily laid-out for them," implying, of course, that we're too stupid to find our way around the Davisound site?"
No, you said in your polite reply:
"3.) It's too bad, therefore (just in my opinion), that their website doesn't open with a simple, plain, half-page of text that states:
This is who we are; this is where we are; this is how we prefer you get in touch with us; this is what we offer, this is how much it costs; this is how many units we make a year; this is how long our waiting list is at the present time -- with hyperlinks to other pages of interest, photos of products, interesting stories, etc."
So, I am therefore, in THAT part, NOT implying ANYTHING! You pretty much were saying you like websites easily laid-out for you and HOW you'd like it to be done... Well, what you were describing is NOT DaviSound's website and what the designer of the website was purposely trying NOT to do, so therefore, DaviSound is NOT for you, as I said.
"Do you really think we're "lazy" and unwilling or uninterested in putting time into reading about gear and the companies that make them??"
Do I REALLY think you're too lazy? No. If you took offence to that, please do NOT as I said it to be taken light-heartedly. Please accept my apologies as it seems you took it further than I intended. Unwilling or uninterested in putting in time? You tell me?... Ought I think otherwise from all you've said thus far? Or maybe it is you simply don't have the time? Time IS money and maybe you're time is worth A LOT more than mine... Either way, your wants and needs from a website, as opposed to mine, are different. Simple as that! Another reason I said DaviSound is NOT for you.
Personally, I feel if you take the time and read ALL of DaviSound's website, in order, from start to finish, as the designer of the website intended it to be read, everything you'd want (AND FAR more) from a website is there and the lay-out actually makes sense. As always, there is PLENTY of room for improvements at EVERY site; just as DaviSound's. Please DO vocalize your suggestions for improvement to DaviSound, BUT please do NOT suggest a new website lay-out like "so-and-so's" as I also feel (speaking as a customer who has FULLY experienced DaviSound; get your mind out of there!) DaviSound's website design is a VERY good expression for what DaviSound represents overall as a company! Once again, I tell you, if you don't like it, I recommend you look elsewhere as DaviSound is NOT for you!
"RE is of the stated opinion that a completely unverified story on the Davisound site is not only "oh so true" but applies to "everyone" here."
Yes, THAT is EXACTLY what I am saying! Of course it applies to EVERYONE!
That quality of thinking is called prejudice, regardless of the "type" of people to whom it is applied."
Ah ha! BUT, you see, THAT is the WHOLE lesson of the story! Now just apply that "key word" to EVERYONE and there you have it!
Peace, Dobro? What about Peace EVERYONE?
My gosh, this is NOT war! And my past track record around here can tell you I've NEVER been one of the few looking for trouble around here and that I handle it pretty level-headed when it finds me (of course we ALL say a few things out of character at times; some more often than others)! Also, ANYONE who's been around here for quite a long time can tell you that about me!
On that note, Peace EVERYONE!
P.S.
Dobro,
The free server I had that mp3 on decided to start charging. That's why it's no longer there. If you'd like, I can repost it some where. Which one of the 2, that I posted around the same time, was it?
I'm NOT joking!
