Adding word clock to Lucid AD9624

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I can hear differences in Ed's mp3 postings for his cable shootout.

I can hear the difference between 16-bit and 24-bit recordings on my own system.

But I can't hear any difference between any of these three mp3s. This homer's conclusion: external clocks are for pros and audiophiles and people who worry too much.
 
LOL Dobro - the difference between good clock bad clock is at least the same as that between good converter bad converter.

Just ..... dmp some files to MP3 and they all sound like crap
 
dobro, that is incredibly surprising.

What DA and speakers are you using.

Anyhow, it does not matter that much. Tubedude could not hear the difference between the delta 1010 convertes and the lucid converters.

As I said before, I can hear the difference even in the mp3, If one cant hear the difference, then maybe the difference is not significant enough to justify one spending $400 on a clock, and it might be better spent elsewhere.

here are tips to better make the difference.
My amp is set to 85dbs. I did not have to increase the volume even though the level is quite low.

At about 75 dbs on your spl meter, listen to:

the focus on the hi hat(if thats what its called)
the clarity of the .delay on the guitar(most important)
the radom panning synth sound ANd its transient response
the short trumpet burst


also, it might help to use headphones(good ones show better differences.) Totally forget about hearing difference if your computer is sitting right under your desk or an ac is blaring away.

Its a good thing I did not come right out and mention which clock it is. I am sure that once I tell you guys which one is which youll suddenly be able to hear what I am talking about.

Anyhow,

I posted the 21 megabyte wav file to nowhereradio. here


you guys right click on it and select "save as"

I hope you listen and tell me if you can hear any differences
delete the mp3 from the end of it and listen as a wave file
 
Don't assume that I CAN"T hear the difference! :) I just couldn't tell on cheap computer speakers. I have played around with most of this stuff, and have gone through great trouble to get to check some of it out. The Lucid converters, IMO, sound fantastic. The Delta sounds really decent too when clocked solid. If you're using both, you need the clock.
My next venture is to try to find a Fatso Jr and decide if its worth the price. Thats something Sjoko should look into. :)
 
Oh have ya? I guess you must like it! Can I borrow it for a few days next year some time? ;)
Tell us what you think....
 
it stopped me from using my 2 track studer machine, does that explain it?
 
In order to help you recover your costs, I'll give you $100 for the Studer. Oh, and 3 free days in Bruces studio.
 
Yeah, I had already checked it out. Why dont you give it a shot and see how it does next to, say, Fatso? If it cuts out every 30 seconds, I would try doing an offline print of the effect, maybe it'll work fine then :) I think this is pretty important stuff for digital. I've used the Steinberg one, but it seems to lock me up sometimes. It is pretty good though. Actually some of the Waves Renaisance stuff has warming effects to, that arent bad.
 
C Jaguar - nope, no go. My soundcard's decent, and my headphones are Sennheiser HD 580s - they're okay. All three snippets sound the same to me.

I realize that the mp3 conversion might be making the difference, but that in itself is really significant to me. If I can hear something in an mp3 file, it's obviously really significant sonically; if it doesn't show up in an mp3 file, then it's less important sonically. To put this comment in perspective - remember that song that Recording Engineer put up in the clinic a couple of months ago - his brother playing acoustic and singing? Brilliant, right? Now *that's* a significant sonic difference that I'd be willing to pay ready money for. But based on the three samples you posted here, I'd put my my hard earnies toward a new mic or preamp - a difference I can hear - before the clock.

But maybe my ears are shot. Tell you what, let's run another trial. I'll post three songs. One of them was recorded at 16/44 and the other two were at 24/48 - same mics, pres, card and software. Let's see if you can spot the 16/44 in mp3 form. Because I can hear the difference played at the original resolutions.
 
Hey Dobro,

THat would be good to post the three mp3s. I am ready for the challenge.

Did you listen to the wav file? People have listened and just cant hear difference. I can still hear a difference, but if major pros dont think its worth bothering about , then maybe I should sell it and get something that can be heard like a tube mic.
 
Cyan - I can only hear a subtle difference in the MP3 files if I play them through my computer. If I transfer the files to the mac and play it in the control room, I hear a much bigger difference. This is not the most ideal way to evaluate quality.
 
hi sjoko2,

you said that the difference in clocks is as big as the difference in converters.

WHen I did the converter comparison, most people could pick out, on the first pass, the lucid as sounding better than the delta 1010.

Do you think you could listen to the mp3 or the wav and see if you can pick out the genx6? It seems to me that many people think the difference is either so subtle or so inaudible as to be nigligible. I would love to know if its a case of monitoring or just a case of something else.

I have no doubt in my mind that the pin point imaging that I hear from the genx6 will be a plus in a 24+ track song, but I have to weigh the pros and cons.
 
Cyan - no, it ain't a challenge - after I dither them all down to 16/44, I can't hear much difference between 'em. What I'm saying is that in the case of your mp3 postings and my songs, it's a resolution thing - this stuff makes a real difference at a higher resolution. What this suggests to me is that it's time for grown up people to abandon 16/44 and MOVE ON UP!

And, no - I didn't listen to the wav, just the mp3.
 
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