About Roland MMP-2 Mic PreAmp

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I have been using this device but stil I cant read any threads about this product even just negative feedback. Well If anybody can tell about it, thread is open thnx.....

ROLAND MMP-2 MIC MODELER PREAMP


Jerberson Rulz...Guitar eats potatoes ngarf!! ngarf!!!
 
If you've been using it, why don't you tell us about it?
 
Yeah dude I'm kinda interested in getting this unit.

I don't care about the mic modeling, but how does the preamp sound (with/without preamp modeling), and how does the compressor/expander sound? Can you use the compressor and the expander at the same time on the same channel?
 
Im bent on getting me one at the blowout prices, for an a/d converter, mic pre modeling, and compresser modeling.
 
I guess the logical question is "what mic do you use with it?"

As I understand it, Roland's modelling technology is very good for guitar effects, and for reverb, which are fairly coarse effects.

The differences between many great condenser mics are fairly subtle, and it kinda assumes that you'd have to use the very best mic to calibrate the Roland unit (wasn't it an AKG C3000 mic or something which Roland used? - my memory is poor), then subtract from the signal which is presented. It also assumes that the electronics in the Roland unit are pristine/transparent.

It sure won't turn a Shure SM-58 signal into a Neumann U47, I'm betting.

Is it worth paying for a signal processor which mostly acts as an EQ, and offers quite subtle changes to signals?

Does the Roland unit produce pleasing and discernable results?

I'm keen to learn more about it.
 
I'm pretty sure the mic modeling isn't that great. I've played around with the Antares Mic Modeling, and if it is at all similar it isn't that great.

BUT I was sent a CD by Roland with side by side comparisons of the Preamp modelling, and it sounds spectacular. It includes recordings made with the Focusrite Red 7, Avalon vt737sp and AD2022, among several others, compared to the same performance recorded through the MMP-2 models. It is impossible to tell the difference on most models. All models sound so similar to the originals that if they didn't tell you which was which you would never know.

The examples were on vocals, guitar, and saxophone, using a TLM-103 mic.

I'm sold, and am hoping to have one on its way by the end of the week.

If I find the link again to order the demo CD I will post it here.
 
Yeah. Post that link when you find it again, I'd be interested in checking it out too. As far as the electronics, I would think they'd sound good. Roland gear has always sounded good to me, at least as far as their top of the line synths. And 'd assume they'd put the good stuff in this box. So what's the going rate on an MMP-2 these days, on blowout?
 
I have one for a couple months. After a brief trial on my voice and accoustic guitar (very pleased) I used it for a couple of live performances. I was generally satisfied with the results, although I found the bass to be somewhat more rolled off (but still well extended) than what I heard in the room. Mics were a Rode NT4.

I have not played around much with the modelling -- I really only bought it for the phantom/preamp/A-D combo, on the advice of a Sam Ash guy that the MMP-2 is much better than the higher-priced ART DPS I had been leaning toward.

I did note that using "male narration" activated some kind of a gate or expander I had not been expecting which did leave me an adequate usable dynamic range.

I've still only formed a preliminary view, but that is that this isn't all that I might like it to be but well worth the money and a decent choice at today's reduced prices.
 
You can get them "new" on Ebay for about $150. I just ordered one from www.americanmusical.com for $250. It is factory resealed, but not a return/repair (so they tell me), just resealed. At least they are reputable with a great return policy, sell with full warranty, and will ship to Canada, unlike the bastards who are selling them on ebay...

And I still haven't found the link to order the CD. It was on www.rolandus.com I guess they aren't offering it currently? I will post it if I find it.
 
i've used the mmp2.. when using it with a great mic that thing will shows its quality.. i used one with a dragonfly.. wow.. it sounds great.. and at the $150 ebay price thesedays, its a steal.. the modeling.. no its not great but vs mic modeler its better... i really liked using it.. not to mention its dead quiet..
i'd get one just to add a different flavor to my studio.. i mean ppl are butying up dmp3's and vtb1's.. this mmp2 sounds even better
 
I'm not interested at all in modeling the mic - I use a C1 and I really like the sound. I'm also planning to get a NTK in the near future for an alternate mic.

It's the preamp modeling that I am excited about. Like I said, on the CD the models were indistinguishable from the originals. There is a curent thread on this forum about a new pre from Focusrite that will model other pres. Mind you, it will cost over $3000. However, if Focusrite is willing to back the technology with their name, then that proves that modeling pres realistically is possible. Their models may be slightly better then those on the mmp-2, but for less than 10% the cost, this is a no-brainer.
 
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