A Sad One

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Real pretty/sad song. Nice lines here and there. Pretty harmonies. I liked the little guitar fills.Liked the answer-back vocals at about 3:20.

I had trouble making out a word here and there - a guitar covered them up. You could throw in a bass part and I think it would sound nice... just a thought

Good job - Trip
 
Ah man, I'm crying -- lol --

Okay, I took another listen. This one definitely sounds cleaner and the vocals have improved (which to me was hard to do because I thought the previous vocals sounded great) :)

Because this version sounds better, I can really hear where just a tad of augmentation in the arrangement may make it even deeper. That cello idea you had could still work on this. I really like the acoustic feel of this, and I like your use of reverb here. It kind of sounds like an "old-school" recording and has a cool quality about it. Maybe some percussive instruments would add a bit to it too (I think these comments are the same as last time), especially during the ending of the song, but maybe not all the way through.

Very good piece of work you have here. Even if you decide to just leave it in its natural state it still works.

Good job!
 
It's frustrating to be in the middle of a work week and completely UNable to try out some of the suggestions made here.

KRAMER - what an incredibly nice post from you. I sincerely appreciate it, a lot. Please play piano on it...now.

jjtcorsair - you definitely know how to set a mood, that's for sure. Although it didn't seem to bug ya' too much, I'll see what I can do about the rice crispies as soon as I can. Your comment about the songwriters' forum was flattering. Maybe, the next time someone asks for input on a death song, I'll have this. :D - Thanks, Mr. Title.

mixmkr - thanks for plowing through it...I'm pulling one of the acoustics out on the next version...there really aren't too many instruments...the problem is that I didn't play the ones I used with much accuracy, so the timing problems make it sound too busy. If somebody doesn't offer to put some strings on this pretty quick, I'm gonna' be stuck with that damned electric git, too. The "bass" on this tune is an acoustic one, and whenever I turn it up, it makes the whole mix really muddy. EQ TIPS ANYONE?

mmm- yeah, the vocal has some dropouts in it, and I didn't run it by my daughter for the old "can you hear every single word" test that I usually do. I'll fix 'em. There actually is a basss (barely) in there, but when I bring it up, it makes mud out of the entire mix, so I've got some work to do, apparently. Thanks a ton for listening.

boydrj- again? You listened again? What are you, nuts?!?! - Thanks, I've got some percussion in the works, and I may re-post it once all the warts and giggles are fixed. I appreciate your time, as always.

Okay, I can't fix anything for at least 2 days, so keep the tips coming...expecially EQ tips to help me turn up the bass without muddying it up completely.

t.y.,
chris
 
Hey Chris, I was just giving this another listen. I don't know if this is V2 or something, but it doesn't seem quite as jammed up this time around. I would still work on those gits though. There's one coming out the left that's acting a little selfish.

As for EQ, I would just for shits and giggles cut about 3db out of ALL guitars from 200-400 and just see if the bass starts peeking through. And I'm only recommending this as a starting point because it is so guitar heavy. You may be pushing that bass aside in those freq's. Just a thought. Are you getting muddiness just by boosting the bass track level? If so, I would say it's an EQ problem, but that you probably want to look at the git EQ's first.

Someone else may have far better advice for you...


The song is well worth the extra effort.

Tom
 
LAST BUMP!!!

SLuiCe said:
As for EQ, I would just for shits and giggles cut about 3db out of ALL guitars from 200-400 and just see if the bass starts peeking through.
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Tom - I gave it a shot. I took one guitar almost completely out of the mix too, and just doubled the git that was the closest to being played in time.

If anybody else listens, lemme' know if you can hear the bass, or if it's now too muddy, or whatever. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE HELP, btw.

(c'mon mixmkr - tell me it's less cluttered???).


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Chris
 
Okay, THIS is the last bump...really

The one right above it, "TIME," if you're sick of listening to "Every Chance I Get," give that one a spin and tell me if all the crap I did to it helped at all.?????

REALLY...REALLY COOL OF YOU TO LISTEN, btw.

thanks,
Chris
 
hey!

Finally got to hear your stuff. Awesome. AS for drums in that song...hrmmm maybe try a reverbed tambereen, suttle like just playing where the snare might hit. Used that alot for sad songs a long time ago, really adds to the mood. As for guitar, heh I could do someting real sweet for that song :D NOW IF I HAD YOUR VOICE ILL REALLY BE DANGEROUS!! what mic do you use?
 
much better....less clutter!...on time!!...what a diff. The bass is much better too. Improvements all around. Something to hold the beat, might be nice. Never know...just need to maybe try some things.

see...so we bitch, slam, whine, complain about your stuff...and it somehow sounds better....allright!

actually...it was a great song to begin with. I'd still take a musical dyanamic high point. Like having drums coming in...even if very late.
 
mixmkr said:
....see...so we bitch, slam, whine, complain about your stuff...and it somehow sounds better....allright!
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Man, I wouldn't have it any other way. Some percussion's on the way, btw. It'll be on the CD that you SHOULD get a co-producer credit on (don't worry Chris, I wouldn't embarrass you like that). :eek:

Thanks for listening (again...and again).

Chris
 
mix is right....this is much, much better. I think with some percussion it'll be there. I hear a tambourine on the 2 and the 4 about halfway through and maybe some wood blocks and chimes.
Great song chris

Time..............that effect on the vox at the beginning doesn't work for me.....it sounds much better when it goes normal. The song's too pretty for it. I'd like the guitar up some and e ride too. This would sound so good with a fiddle.
 
Wow!!! What a difference!!! The song just completely opens up and sucks you in now! I actually got goose bumps! And I had been listening to your other versions for hours on end and thought I was pretty much immuned to the song's impact by now.... wrong.... wow.
 
hey chris...
..sorry so late on this......great song.....i heard the last?..version....you took out some guitars i think..?....sounds more sparse......but honestly i dont have "engineer ears"...so really i thought the last 2 versions were just as good....



...man...the harmonies on here kick ass btw.....
...nice work.

thanks
jamal:D
 
yeah dude, listening to the less cluttered mix, and I can't think of anything to change.. For me, that says a lot right there because I can usually always bitch about something.. I'm at a loss for complaints at the moment.. I'd probably add some stuff to it, then it would be cluttered again..

anyway, no complaints right now! :mad:


believe me, I tried.. :)
 
Took me a while, but finally got to hear this one. Man, you just keep getting better and better. It's a real pleasure to witness the blooming of an artist (as opposed to the blooming of an idiot :D)
Everything sounds great, but the harmonies especially were impressive.
Your writing gets stronger with each offering.
Congrats on another winner!

Mark
 
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chrisharris said:

Tom - I gave it a shot. I took one guitar almost completely out of the mix too, and just doubled the git that was the closest to being played in time.


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That sounds more like it! Now I feel something, no distractions, no sea sickness :D

The dynamics are more obvious now. It moves. Very nice job Chris. I don't know that it needs drums now, at least not for dynamics. Your guitars are doing a good job of it. And the vocal is alive and shining. Good work.
 
I listened to both versions,with and without the electric.
I honestly love the acoustic version better,just great!
Everything is chrystal clear and well placed,the feel really comes through.

With the electric,it gets muddied up a bit.
Don't get me wrong,the playing and tone are great.
Mabey just use it for the lead at the end,give it a big finish.
Just my humble opinion!:D

Really great song and performance Chris.
It was really good to start with,all the help just made it that much better.
Nice to have friends to help out,ain't it!:D

I enjoyed it very much,thanks.
(I'm sure your Dad enjoyed it too!):)

Pete
 
hey chris, I know what you're doing with all those posts and bumps... this song will always be on page 1!
 
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