Ho-Lee-Crap!

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Easy to transport too... you just put it on the ground and kick it along, like a can...
 
My PC broke down, just accessing this website.







Not really...
 
dgatwood said:
Not really.
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I was gonna say that. For only an extra $1000 you can get four PCI-e slots!

This thing is going to cost mega bucks once you try get it compatible with all of your legacy hardware.

Good luck Mac'ers

I'll stick to my PCs and Hackintoshes, thanks.

Cheers :)
 
Mo Facta said:
I was gonna say that. For only an extra $1000 you can get four PCI-e slots!
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I'm aware of those. They'll still bitch though. Christ, some are still bitching about the optical drive, and I'm pretty sure I heard someone mention 8-track cassette. :p

PCI-e thing does piss me off a little bit though. The technology is there and it's overpriced.
I have two 8800gts here (I know they're not amazing) doing nothing and the graphics are certainly underpowered on apple books/imacs.

There was a DIY solution that would have cost a few hundred bucks max, but the company withdrew the main board for it. :facepalm:

Thunderbolt breakouts seem a bit excessive too. I'd pay reasonable money for a TB hub to save me pluggin in screen, keyboard, hub, printer, lan every day.


I'm just saying though. Personally I'm all for the moves forward. Gotta be done and someone's gota go first.
 
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Am i the only one who thinks it looks like R2D2?

I bet there's enough power in there to make it talk in beeps as well
 
Justsomeguy said:
Am i the only one who thinks it looks like R2D2?

I bet there's enough power in there to make it talk in beeps as well
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Part of me thinks it's an elaborate hoax.
Damn though....Even their advertising of this product is sexy!

Ever see the family guy star wars parody? R2D2 tries to play the holo-message but he crashes over a quicktime codec or something..lol.
 
Steenamaroo said:
Part of me thinks it's an elaborate hoax.
Damn though....Even their advertising of this product is sexy!

Ever see the family guy star wars parody? R2D2 tries to play the holo-message but he crashes over a quicktime codec or something..lol.
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If you really want to kick up the power game, server class Window machines (2,4,8, etc) CPUs, more memory than you can shake a stick at. I think Apple exited servers about 5+ years ago. But, as stated, if power you want, then you have to start looking into "servers". But, you are talking $8-10K just to get started.

As stated in another post, once you start spending this kind of money, hey what the hell.
 
DM60 said:
If you really want to kick up the power game, server class Window machines (2,4,8, etc) CPUs, more memory than you can shake a stick at.
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I didn't look into the cpu model nos because I don't really know much about the high end chips, but how would these machines compare with 12 core xeon mac pro?
I know stats for the new machines aren't out yet, but even historically speaking, does the mac pro hold up?
 
Steenamaroo said:
I didn't look into the cpu model nos because I don't really know much about the high end chips, but how would these machines compare with 12 core xeon mac pro?
I know stats for the new machines aren't out yet, but even historically speaking, does the mac pro hold up?
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I am not an Apple guy (since the 80's), but Apple has done some interesting things over the years since they control hardware and software (RISC Chips for example). So they structure differently than MS, due to MSs open hardware architecture (main reason for cheap PCs that behave like crap). But, your high end PCs (for CAD modeling for example) stack up easily with any Mac specs (Just saying from a pure hardware alignment). The difference is, Apple makes it rather easy for their applications to run (control hardware, OS and software= ease of use) and maybe their OS is more efficient as Apple rarely brings forward legacy hardware and software .

So, in this case, it is not an equal comparison. Consumer class verses Server Class hardware. Point here is, there is little limit on a MS/PC hardware spec in regards to memory, CPUs, etc. It is just a matter at what level you want to enter at and what is the cost.


But for 99% of us here, I am not sure what 12 cores would provide as I see less CPU issues and more IO issues. A 12 core system would probably have many of the cores idle unless you are using many applications or you could possible assign plug ins to the cores. The software I have doesn't give this kind of flexibility. It just has a setting, use multi-cores and allow for rewire.
 
DM60 said:
I am not an Apple guy (since the 80's), but Apple has done some interesting things over the years since they control hardware and software (RISC Chips for example). So they structure differently than MS, due to MSs open hardware architecture (main reason for cheap PCs that behave like crap). But, your high end PCs (for CAD modeling for example) stack up easily with any Mac specs (Just saying from a pure hardware alignment). The difference is, Apple makes it rather easy for their applications to run (control hardware, OS and software= ease of use) and maybe their OS is more efficient as Apple rarely brings forward legacy hardware and software .

So, in this case, it is not an equal comparison. Consumer class verses Server Class hardware. Point here is, there is little limit on a MS/PC hardware spec in regards to memory, CPUs, etc. It is just a matter at what level you want to enter at and what is the cost.


But for 99% of us here, I am not sure what 12 cores would provide as I see less CPU issues and more IO issues. A 12 core system would probably have many of the cores idle unless you are using many applications or you could possible assign plug ins to the cores. The software I have doesn't give this kind of flexibility. It just has a setting, use multi-cores and allow for rewire.
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Fair enough, but I just mean on a basic comparison benchmark stylie, do the mac pros stack up?

This isn't bait or a challenge...I just don't know. :)
 
Steenamaroo said:
Fair enough, but I just mean on a basic comparison benchmark stylie, do the mac pros stack up?

This isn't bait or a challenge...I just don't know. :)
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I'll preface it with this as I haven't fully researched it: For most of our requirements in this forum, I would say the machine works well. The question really comes to, does one require more horse power because of new requirements. My machine is about 4 years old. I upgraded memory when I went to Win7 64 and it has the AMD 6 core chip. I still have issues, but I look at my CPUs and they sit at around 20-30% usage. So, the issues are in other areas. That is why architecture of the system is as important as just pure hardware. If data isn't being processed and there is a "data jam" then your wamma jamma hardware is sitting around waiting for something to do. So, Hardware, OS, MB board design and application coding all play into it. Apple takes care of a lot of these issues for the end user and they monitor/control all of this. MS control this to a lesser extent and therefore the end user has more to do. Linux doesn't control it at all and therefore, the end user has to do a lot.

Any of that makes sense. You have to find the comparisons for what you want to do. That would also include the software (end to end). Based on what I know, the Mac Pros have little complainants. So that tells me, they do pretty good. But, it has to be end to end to get a true comparison. I would think, the application vendor for your software would have better specs as they are focused around end to end for their software. That would be the best source.
 
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