Need mic or pre to make my vocals sound warm and gooey and full and thick... :o

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Just my vocal sound - thats all I want to be thick and gooey - in case the title turned you on or something...


Anyway - I am using an AKG D590S when I record while playing guitar with my drummer. Then when I redo the vocal track I sometimes use the same mic or switch to an
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for preamps I am using the built-in pre's in my Alesis Multimix 16 USB 2.0

so - I don;t have a great voice (or even a good voice) and its kind of thin - I usually try double or triple tracking - sometimes with different takes and spread them out some - or EQ them differently - etc.

Anyway I was wondering if there was a decent and inexpensive mic or preamp I could add to this to get a little better sound on my vocals. I am guessing my budget will be under $300 or so...
 
moresound said:
Google up and take a look at the RNLA.
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Looks like it gets good reviews - but no XLR inputs? - would I run the effects send/return from my mixer through it? I don;t have any external effect processors so I have never used the sends on my mixer :o

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It's all explained in the manual.

Other things to consider for vocals are preamps and of course the magic combination of that "one" microphone through that "one" preamp.
 
I've been trying out quite a few mics and pres and found some can give you this type of sound.

Preamp :- UA Solo 610

Mic :- Peluso 2247

Adding a tracking compressor like the FMR PBC-6a or Golden Age COMP54 will also help thicken things up!
 
moresound said:
Google up and take a look at the RNLA.
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That's not a preamp. It's a leveling amplifier, aka compressor.
The RNP is FMR's preamp and it is excellent but it ain't gonna make anyone a better sounding singer.
 
RRuskin said:
That's not a preamp. It's a leveling amplifier, aka compressor.
The RNP is FMR's preamp and it is excellent but it ain't gonna make anyone a better sounding singer.
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Right but retracking with it just might do the trick. ;)
 
moresound said:
Take that up with Mark and Beth McQuilken.
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I'm not knocking FMR products. They are so good that I became an authorized dealer years ago. The op is looking for a signal processor to change the character of his voice. Signal processing won't do that. It will make it different for certain, maybe even in a way he likes but it isn't going to change a Neil Young into a Teddy Pendrergrass or vice versa.
 
Right. But it will fatten up a thin vocal, for it works that way for my uses. I think of it as a poor mans Fatso unit.
Unless we are talking poop in poop out, in which case polishing that t*rd will not help.
 
full and thick and all that? buy a sennheiser m4 or whatever their new affordable LDC mic is. it fits the description really well. adding a thick compressor is a bandaid (a workable one though) - better to solve your tone problems from teh source. it's a very good mic, plenty of "bigger than life" vocal tracking magic.

it isn't a tone I leave un-eqed in the mix that often... I prefer to emphasize upper mids more in a mix. but for ballads and more solo-y type lines that mic is magical for the price.
 
RRuskin said:
...but it isn't going to change a Neil Young into a Teddy Pendrergrass...
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Yeah, I think I sound like Neil Young sometimes... :(

But I have been working on it and getting them a little better - I just want to warm them up and get as full of a tone as I can out of it. I know I can't change my voice, but I also know that there are ways of enhancing the body of a voice.
 
yea the apex 205 ribbon also does the thing you're talking about for vocals. hell that sound of a mic made Neil sound great on harvest and poor ol' Neil, God love my fellow Canadian, he just doesn't have exactly a warm voice. Ribbons, or at the very least mics that sound a lot like ribbons, are all over harvest.

since neil came up....
 
A good compressor during tracking can add some body to vocals. I've started tracking with an 1176 on vocals. Even just running the preamp into the 1176 without compressing at all adds "warmth".
 
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