Hey Greg_L

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Now that you are supposedly the resident mix expert here at HR and also at RP......

I'd appreciate it if you'd listen to this and give me your opinion of the overall mix.

I'm posting the first 2 minutes and 25 seconds of the song 'cuz I don't I don't want to take up too much of your valuable time. :p;)

Tell me what you think about the mix and spare me the usual "old guy" jokes. ;)

Still Got The Blues

Am I on the right track or am I not on the right track recording this song?
 
60's guy said:
I'm not sure what that means, but thanks for listening, phlllbag. :)
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Might I offer some advice on your mix?

Just a few pointers:
Drums sound very fake, maybe choose some different samples. Change the
velocity around so they don't sound constantly the same. They all sound very
centered aswell. Fine for kick and snare but the rest could be spread out a
little.

Turn down the distortion on guitars. It doesn't complement the song at all.

Lead guitars: retrack, they sound messy. And change that tone. It's awful,
very thin and nasal.

Voice could use a bit of fattening too, very thin.

Other than that:
Sweet tune. Clean guitars sound good. Nice, soothing voice. That you?

Thumbs up!
 
philbagg said:
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Might I offer some advice on your mix?

Just a few pointers:
Drums sound very fake, maybe choose some different samples. Change the
velocity around so they don't sound constantly the same. They all sound very
centered aswell. Fine for kick and snare but the rest could be spread out a
little.

Turn down the distortion on guitars. It doesn't complement the song at all.

Lead guitars: retrack, they sound messy. And change that tone. It's awful,
very thin and nasal.

Voice could use a bit of fattening too, very thin.

Other than that:
Sweet tune. Clean guitars sound good. Nice, soothing voice. That you?

Thumbs up!
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Thanks!

Constructive critisism was what I what I was looking for.
 
60's guy said:
No shit, Raven! :rolleyes:

I'm recording my cover of Still Got The Blues.

What are you doing?
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Hey man I did'nt mean any offence. I just thought Phil might not have heard the original since he thought your cover sounded like Parisienne Walkways.

I'm mixing a few songs that I recorded with some friends. Whats the point in that question?
 
The soloing guitar does sound a little thin - can you double track it? Or I suppose you could put some middle mud back in & an invisible amount of chorus.
The distorted guitar that build to the chorus is really fizzy - I like what it's doing but it needs EQing too.
Drums sound fine to me & the vocals are really good - I like the world weariness of them - & that's what the narrative is about anyway.
All in al a good recording - just need to EQ the guitars - what they're playing is terrific just a tad too thin/fizzy.
 
raven46 said:
Hey man I did'nt mean any offence. I just thought Phil might not have heard the original since he thought your cover sounded like Parisienne Walkways.
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No offence taken. ;)

I came under no illusion that I would sound or play like Gary Moore when I decided to record a cover of Still Got The Blues.

I simply love the song and thought it worthy of a recording effort.

Garden Party perhaps.
 
rayc said:
The soloing guitar does sound a little thin - can you double track it? Or I suppose you could put some middle mud back in & an invisible amount of chorus.
The distorted guitar that build to the chorus is really fizzy - I like what it's doing but it needs EQing too.
Drums sound fine to me & the vocals are really good - I like the world weariness of them - & that's what the narrative is about anyway.
All in al a good recording - just need to EQ the guitars - what they're playing is terrific just a tad too thin/fizzy.
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Thanks for listening, Ray!

I've relistened and hear what you're saying about the fiizzy prior to the chorus.

:mad: I'm a mixing loser!
 
philbagg said:
Just a few pointers:
Drums sound very fake, maybe choose some different samples. Change the
velocity around so they don't sound constantly the same. They all sound very
centered aswell. Fine for kick and snare but the rest could be spread out a
little.

Turn down the distortion on guitars. It doesn't complement the song at all.

Lead guitars: retrack, they sound messy. And change that tone. It's awful,
very thin and nasal.

Voice could use a bit of fattening too, very thin.

Other than that:
Sweet tune. Clean guitars sound good. Nice, soothing voice. That you?

Thumbs up!
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I 100% agree with all of this. The distorted guitars sound atrocious. The lead tones and that fuzzbomb building into the chorus is awful. They sound like they were direct recorded and distorted later. Definitely scrap that junk and hunt for a much better tone. As mentioned, the drum programming/machine is pretty robotic. It's sounds like a casio drum loop. Do whatever you need to do to liven it up. The vocal delivery is okay, but it sounds boxxy. Too midrangey like it's coming through a telephone.

That's a lot of bad stuff.

Here's the good:

As bad as some of the sounds are, the levels sound good. Everything seems to be working with eachother for the most part. The keys are present and the bass is holding just enough of the bottom end to keep the mix full. I've heard way, way worse mixes from you, so you're at least on the right track.
 
Greg_L said:
As bad as some of the sounds are, the levels sound good. Everything seems to be working with eachother for the most part. The keys are present and the bass is holding just enough of the bottom end to keep the mix full. I've heard way, way worse mixes from you, so you're at least on the right track.
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Thanks! That's the honest feedback I was looking for. Which specific sounds are bad? :confused: It's obvious I can't trust my ears any longer.:(
 
60's guy said:
Thanks! That's the honest feedback I was looking for. Which specific sounds are bad? :confused: It's obvious I can't trust my ears any longer.:(
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As several people already mentioned - all of the guitars. They sound awful.
 
"Factory Towns and a Tired Heart" I know this isnt the song you asked about, but it was on your soundclick page, and I love this song. Agree with everything already said about your mix. Good song though.
 
Hey man...
I have to go with the general consensus that the guitars are all very edgy and strident. The lead vox is too. The bass and drums are more even, and your levels and field placement are at least reasonable (yes, the drums are narrow, though). Is there perhaps a medical reason you're not hearing this as well as you otherwise might? Do you have a hole in a frequency band your hearing that causes you to overcompensate? (I have one around 4KHz) It's also possible that you're listening through monitors that don't accurately represent the highs, so you push them to make it sound even... I'd also agree that perhaps less distortion and more of a fat tube overdrive blusey sound might suit the piece better...
 
I think everyones hit the points that need fixed...great performance...and well mixed...vocals a bit mid rangy and I can hear some lip smacks..guitars are fizzy...not much to fix in truth

wtf is Gary Moore...was he in the beatles?? ;)


great job
 
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