help setting up control surface

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liv_rong

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hello, im new to this forum and this is my first post, but there will be more.

i need some help, i just purchased a behringer bcf2000 b-control fader. at the moment, im am only trying to set it up in fl studio and i am having problems.

when i right click over a knob on fruity i select the option to sync with controler(as i do with a midi keyboard with no problems) and i have two major problems. the first being if i select the volume knob on a track and try to sync it with a fader on the control surface i get a bunch of error messages and the program freezes. and if i try to sync the volume or pan knob in the software with a knob on the control surface it only allows my to adjust the levels from "0" to "half".

also i do not know how to sync the record, play, stop, etc. controls to the surface. i do not use fl that much, i am trying to figure this thing out.

i am now using acid 4 and will soon be upgrading to acid 6 and i plan on using the control surface heavily on that software, so i wanted to test it on fruity, plus its nice to have on fl as well.

does anyone have anytips or pointers for me?

is it worth even keeping this thing for acid 6? i want the surface to control playback and record functions as well as using the faders and knobs to set levels for mixing. i hope this will work for that, but i am leary.

i also have cubase and could use it for that.

any help would be greatly appreciated. if this doesnt work out ill have to return it, and i really dont want to drop a grand on the mackie control surface.

thanks for any info.
 
liv_rong said:
i really dont want to drop a grand on the mackie control surface.
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First, welcome to the board.

Second, if you think the Mackie will be easier to set up with Acid or FL you're probably wrong.

Behringer have unfortunately deleted the BCF2000 and it's rotary companion the BCR2000 from their web site. Guess that means there's no more support for it and they will disavow any knowledge of it's actions.

There's good news though --- FL7 has a template under the 'Options' menu for the BCF2000.

As with my BCR there are various connectivity options, and one of the USB options would make the most sense to try first. If that doesn't work, try plugging it into the midi in of your interface, then plug your keyboard into the midi in of the BCF.


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Welcome newbie!

What converter are you currently using? Or are you feeding the signal to a sound card on your computer (on board or PCI)?

IMO I'd skip the mixer and go straight into computer. I believe in as clear path between source and destination as possible. But that is my humble opinion...
 
vadoom said:
What converter are you currently using? Or are you feeding the signal to a sound card on your computer (on board or PCI)? IMO I'd skip the mixer and go straight into computer. I believe in as clear path between source and destination as possible. But that is my humble opinion...
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What?!?

'Converter'?

'Skip the mixer'?

We're talking about the Behringer BCF2000, and if you don't know what that is please keep your humble opinions to yourself.



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ssscientist said:
What?!?

'Converter'?

'Skip the mixer'?

We're talking about the Behringer BCF2000, and if you don't know what that is please keep your humble opinions to yourself.



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Sorry. Thought you recorded analog...
I've recorded in sequencer long time ago. Was cool, but was too limited for me...

At this point I think it is what strikes your fancy. Whatever makes your job easier... :D

I'll be on my way now..... :p:D
 
vadoom said:
I've recorded in sequencer long time ago. Was cool, but was too limited for me...
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So you ARE a member of the double-secret homerecording.com midi club after all.

My mistake was assuming you were trolling for rep points in a thread in which you were completely over your head.








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ssscientist said:
So you ARE a member of the double-secret homerecording.com midi club after all.

My mistake was assuming you were trolling for rep points in a thread in which you were completely over your head.



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Come on, man!!!! I'm not a troll!!! I've even started a thread telling everyone I'm not a troll!! Why would I even want to be a troll???

Anyways, I do recording and I like it. I came across this and joined. Why is it so hard to understand????

Sheesh!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad:


Well, anyways, peace bro... :cool::cool::cool:
 
i was plugging the usb right into the computer, it installed fine, i just couldnt get it set up to its full potential.

i realized that, though it would be nice to have an interface so i wouldnt have to use the mouse, i realized that it was kind of a novelty.

i ended up returning it and buying another guitar, i figured i might as well spend the money on something i am going to use all the time, not something i would only use while recording/mixing.

they are damn cool though, i am eventually going to get the mackie, maybe in a couple years when the price drops and i spend money on more important things first.

thanks for the replies though
 
liv_rong said:
i was plugging the usb right into the computer, it installed fine, i just couldnt get it set up to its full potential.

i realized that, though it would be nice to have an interface so i wouldnt have to use the mouse, i realized that it was kind of a novelty.

i ended up returning it and buying another guitar, i figured i might as well spend the money on something i am going to use all the time, not something i would only use while recording/mixing.

they are damn cool though, i am eventually going to get the mackie, maybe in a couple years when the price drops and i spend money on more important things first.

thanks for the replies though
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Now you're thinking :D:D:D

Enjoy :)
 
You're one of those BBS members who always need to have the last word.

Before I opened this thread I knew it was going to be something that was off-topic, inane and pointless.

No, it was NOT a compliment.

Rather than learn anything about his gear, liv_rong took the easy way out and punted it the BCF2000 in favor of another guitar. And you, vadoom, cheered him on in his ignorance. He came here to learn something, then realized that in order to learn he had to actually think and decided that was too much trouble.

What I meant by you two deserving each other is that one makes a bad decision to take the easy way out of a situation that he didn't understand and the other cheers him on.

And when you do what you think you're obliged by a higher power to do and reply with some weak ass crap, I'll be somewhere else giving good advice to someone who will appreciate it.



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i didnt return the thing because i was too lazy, i returned it because i didnt really need it. why would some one with a small home set up that doesnt spend hours a day recording/mixing need it?

it makes more sense to get something that i am going to use all the time, as well as for recording and to further expand my level of musicianship.

i can further expand my recording/.mixing techniques with a mouse and still learn the fundamentals and experiment without having to have a novelty item. i will have a control surface eventually, but there are far more important things to buy first than that.
 
ssscientist said:
You're one of those BBS members who always need to have the last word.

Before I opened this thread I knew it was going to be something that was off-topic, inane and pointless.

No, it was NOT a compliment.

Rather than learn anything about his gear, liv_rong took the easy way out and punted it the BCF2000 in favor of another guitar. And you, vadoom, cheered him on in his ignorance. He came here to learn something, then realized that
in order to learn he had to actually think and decided that was too much trouble.

What I meant by you two deserving each other is that one makes a bad decision to take the easy way out of a situation that he didn't understand and the other cheers him on.

And when you do what you think you're obliged by a higher power to do and reply with some weak ass crap, I'll be somewhere else giving good advice to someone who will appreciate it.



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Actually, in all seriousness, I didn't cheer him on getting another guitar. Besides I don't understand this obsession to get more guitars when you have a wall full of guitars already... But I guess it is a guitar-player thing that I just don't get. I cheered him that he actually thought whether he needed something or not... He eventually went and got something else, which could be more useful to him (I don't know how many guitars he already has). But perhaps he should have thought about that purchase as well...

Anyways, when I realized what he was trying to do, I thought "cool but why?". I personally don't find that piece of equipment practical (for myself), and did not think that it would be practical for him either. It was more of a "well, I think I'll record better if I have actual knobs" or something like that.

At the end it simply boils down to an unnecessary expenditure and time spent trying to make it work. Making it work may be a worthwhile experience, however, the idea is to keep recording, not trying to figure out how to make something work to then record the same thing... Only now you are a day behind...




And what makes you think that I always need to have the last word?? Totally not true!!!!!!!!!



Well... maybe a little... :D:D:D
 
Sorry dude, but you passed on a very good piece of gear to get good mixes. You can't control numerous channels with your mouse, which makes testing conflicting levels a PITA. I'm actually going to buy 2 white BCF2000's for 16 faders...It's a pity you returned it, it woulda been a badass addition.

Vadoom, stop trolling.....seriously. You have more posts in this thread that the OP.....jeez :rolleyes:

by your own logic, what do you need a 2nd guitar for? you already have at least 1, and you have 0 control surfaces....doesn't seem very logical or practical to me. either way, good luck with your future mixes...

-Joel
 
everyone is right about having a bunch of guitars, thats for sure. i got this one, a cheapie, to have for a beater. something i can bring to places and not have to worry about it getting messed up.

i do really want a control surface, but ultimately i want the mackie. besides maybe mine was jacked up because i bought it used from GC, but i guess i will never know.

i know that the mackie already has pre-sets for acid 6, which i am getting this weekend(i know i know, but im used to it now), so when i get the mackie it should be much easier to set up.

besides, if you knew my set-up, you all would probably ask why i would even consider getting a control surface when many other things should be upgraded first.

i know i took the easy way out, but i am ok with it for now.

as for the people with tons of guitars, i personally think that is rediculous unless you are rich and can afford it, i think even if i was i would buy more studio gear before getting a bunch of guitars.

i guess that is all. thanks to all who think i am lazy, or ignorant, or anyhting else for getting rid of that controler, but fear not, one day i will have one and i can tell everybody that they were right hahaha
 
I don't blame you for wanting the mackie. mine just came in the mail. I thought about getting 2 berries or 1 mackie, and guess which one I chose? LOL Good luck man,

-Joel
 
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