Yet another track I'd like feedback on.

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Hello all,

I just spent 40 minutes going through another track. I like this one, whoever did the recording did a great job. Basically no bleedover between mics or anything like that whatsoever.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 

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David W. Pontius said:
Hello all,

I just spent 40 minutes going through another track. I like this one, whoever did the recording did a great job. Basically no bleedover between mics or anything like that whatsoever.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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The sound is okay - nothing including the guitars is in snyc with each other - the drums in particular are rolling over the beat - not exactly hitting anywhere - so maybe the guitar is within range - but sound very odd - and the vocals are just plain - nothing charismatic about them - sounds llike a demo version to my ears - and I can’t really hear the bass - more so kind of feel it.
 
Papanate said:
The sound is okay - nothing including the guitars is in snyc with each other - the drums in particular are rolling over the beat - not exactly hitting anywhere - so maybe the guitar is within range - but sound very odd - and the vocals are just plain - nothing charismatic about them - sounds llike a demo version to my ears - and I can’t really hear the bass - more so kind of feel it.
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I like this song, so I adjusted some levels, re-did the compression chain on the master, and boosted the upper mid and high region on the bass instruments (which in this song, is both a bass guitar and a bass synth).

Feedback would be appreciated.
 

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I listened to the second mix. Bring up the vocals in the verse, and a bit more high end and I think you have the making of a fine tune. Like the guitar sound.
 
DM60 said:
I listened to the second mix. Bring up the vocals in the verse, and a bit more high end and I think you have the making of a fine tune. Like the guitar sound.
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I revisited the vocal levels here and there, and then did a slight EQ on the master because there isn't a part specifically intended for the upper region. (In other words, there isn't like an extremely high-pitched synth or anything to blend in.)
 

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I think it is greatly improved. when your voice comes in at 1:09, 1:53, 2:16, 2:53. I would think you want to pull that back, I figured you are wanting it to rise above it, but it might be too much (doesn't feel correct). Tad more bottom (subjective).

You added in all the right places. Let's see what others have to say. I like it.
 
DM60 said:
I think it is greatly improved. when your voice comes in at 1:09, 1:53, 2:16, 2:53. I would think you want to pull that back, I think you are wanting it to rise above it, but I think it might be too much (doesn't feel correct). Tad more bottom (subjective).

You added in all the right places. Let's see what others have to say. I like it.
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Thank you for the complement, but the artist is actually somebody named Daimon B - https://youtube.com/@daimonb.?si=uagmCdX9IX9z6cMr

All I did was mix the trackouts he provided.
 
Papanate said:
I think you should allign the tracks - it’s wandering all over the place.
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Long story short, of the two programs that I have that can do that (Pro Tools and PreSonus Studio One), neither one are installed, and both are locked behind digital barriers.

You are correct though, putting things on the grid would improve the sound.
 
David W. Pontius said:
Long story short, of the two programs that I have that can do that (Pro Tools and PreSonus Studio One), neither one are installed, and both are locked behind digital barriers.

You are correct though, putting things on the grid would improve the sound.
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What are you mixng the songs with?
 
Papanate said:
What are you mixng the songs with?
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A laptop, an audio interface, and about 3 different headphones.

Believe me, I'd love to have some studio monitors with acoustic treatment, an actual sound board, etc., but, well, real life happens.
 
David W. Pontius said:
A laptop, an audio interface, and about 3 different headphones.

Believe me, I'd love to have some studio monitors with acoustic treatment, an actual sound board, etc., but, well, real life happens.
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What DAW I mean?
 
David W. Pontius said:
My main DAW is Fl Studio because I grew up using it; if I were to try and do any paid work, I'd at least attempt to get access to Pro Tools again.
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Don't let the Pro Tools hype make you think it is required. Pro Tools is just software.
 
To be honest, the third version was really nasty to listen to once the song kicks off, midrange mega harsh and my Adam speakers here made it just almost painful?
 
DM60 said:
Don't let the Pro Tools hype make you think it is required. Pro Tools is just software.
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The short version is I own an educational perpetual key (not a subscription) and would need to get some strings pulled to get the license code associated with a new computer, and don't want it to be my current computer because it isn't really powerful enough to utilize what Pro Tools can do.

(I don't know everything Pro Tools can do, just the basics, but what I noticed is that when it comes to recording, mixing, and editing audio, it does a very good job. My ideal workflow will probably be sketching / composing / etc. in FL, then recording / mixing in Pro Tools, then outsource the mastering, IF I ever try to make a song worth publishing. TBH most of my music is either mediocre 8-16 bar doodles or barely above average 32 bar loops.

Don't know if anybody cares, but if I had to do it all over again, I'd pick PreSonus Studio One, because it was developed more recently, and has a lot of neat features to make it easier for normal people to use.)
 
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To be honest, the third version was really nasty to listen to once the song kicks off, midrange mega harsh and my Adam speakers here made it just almost painful?
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I'm not sure why that is. I'm going to listen to it through on loop with a filter cutting out everything other than the Mids. [After about my third listen-through, I'm certain it's the vocal, but I don't really have the tool to fix that right now].

There is also a slight amount of pumping going on in some sections, so I changed the master compression a little.

Just so you know, I don't have studio monitors right now, just three headphones (ATH-M50x, DT-770, and Fidelio X2HR), so perhaps their frequency response is biasing my ears?
 
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I'm a little confused to be honest. You have some stems from this guy and are remixing them, or are you sort of mastering a stereo file?
I can't quite work out what you are doing and what for?
 
rob aylestone said:
I'm a little confused to be honest. You have some stems from this guy and are remixing them, or are you sort of mastering a stereo file?
I can't quite work out what you are doing and what for?
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So here is the story:

1. Be me, want to get back into mixing audio, after not being able to do so for several years.

2. Come across some websites (Homerecording, as well as https://www.cambridge-mt.com/ms/mtk/).

3. Have idea, why not practice on the trackouts available at the cambridge website and get feedback from the homerecording website?

4. I do some mixing, get some feedback, things go reasonably well.

5. Fast forward, here we are.

(It just occurred to me that this Thread may pose a legal quandary for Homerecording, but my intent wasn't to steal property, just to get feedback and see if I made any obvious nonsense errors that everybody does from time to time by, say, having the vocals like 6db too loud/quiet.)
 
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